Bad as we had played, frustrated as we all were at 8-14 we were one score behind and on our first big attack of the second half.

Up steps Scott Grix and throws a schoolboy like pass straight to the fastest man on the field GAME OVER.

I have no qualms wth his inability to tackle David Fafita near the line a lot of players will struggle to tackle him, but bloody hell he was lucky to have his try stand as he should have slid over to avoid any tackle from behind but he almost stopped and got caught.

I thought Connor was unlucky to have his ruled out right on half time so I guess it balanced out.

Yes there were lots of other poor performances, mistakes etc but as bloomers go this was a self inflicted doozie and his later pass to Mike Lawrence was a hospital pass of some distinction no wonder he couldn't hold it.

There's a lot more problems than Scott Grix I know but that pass was outstandingly shocking and given its timing in the game and the outcome couldn't have been any worse.

Yet he will be the first on the team sheet next week

His try was fine and so was Connors on half time. He gave the intercept try but other than that I thought he was ok. You mention his pass to Lawrence. This was a perfectly good pass IMO which Lawrence dropped.
If you want mistakes how about Lawrence pass to his wing, Brough's sin bin, Taai dropping on first tackle of match, Brough dropping on his own line, Crabtrees attempt to tackle Faafita. However it is still easier to make one scapegoat.

Not one scapegoat there were probably 12/17 but my post says match defining moment which that intercepted pass certainly was.

If you watch the Lawrence pass again Grix over delayed it and it hit Lawrence high at the same time as two defenders as I said earlier in the week in another thread Brett Hodgson he ain't.

Totally agree with what you have said, this was the game over defining moment when Grix threw that ball to their winger. He did exactly the same in the first half but fortunately the ball slipped through the Wakey players hands or he would have been away too. Grim has got a great ability to back up and be in the right place at the right time, but as soon as he gets hold of the ball he can either drop it or do something stupid with it and this happens every single game.

And yet when broughy throws a similar pass there isn't a thread about it.

Having seen Grix and Brough play many times at Wakey i have the opinion that Brough is absolute class one of the best players in the league Grix on the other hand is a shocker an absolute shocker, i am amazed that he gets a game anywhere...The worst rumour i have heard recently is that he is going to come back to Wakey.....my god i hope not. They say he has "utility" value in that he can play in many positions....what i have witnessed is that he can play absolutely garbage in several positions. One of the worst players i have seen wear a Wakey shirt and there have been many to choose from.

Strange Fartown 1961 and others failed mention the two try saving tackles made by Grix when others in front of him had failed miserably!

Or the fact that three successive coaches have picked him above the alternatives

They were all failures last night, including Brough having his worst game for a long time, Quite apart from any other player, Grix is not the quality we require and he is not the only one. comparing him to the failures of other players doesn't make him any better, Things are what they are. If you are going to compare him to anyone , then compare him to Shaull, Hanbury etc .

He does get a lot of criticism, Probably because any mistakes he makes show up glaringly due to his position, which is unfortunate but he does make some bad ones, He doesn't lack effort , he lacks the quality for S league. I pray the new coach can recognize the difference between potential and mediocrity , any more nonsense of the PA variety and we will be stuffed. Thank God A Kelly isn't going to be our new man.

Pehaps P A was right all along and Grix is very good, But then look where his choices have got him

I thought he was one of your better players.
He was the one most likely (Brough apart) who would cause us a problem.

brough was poor

grix was awful, dawdling to put the ball down for a try, lucky to get away with it

got to be brierley next week, grix went of injured to we live in hope.

murphy on the bench was a strange one! if wardle didnt get injured where was he going to play? or was it just a wasted sub, kelly im glad you wont be the future coach

But Jumbuck I didnt compare Grix to the failures of others, I wondered why his two try saving tackles werent mentioned when the twelve players in front of him had failed so badly in the tackling dept.,

I'm not even going to read this thread further than the first post. Wether it was a defying moment or not he wasn't by far the worst man on the field. The thread is a joke and a clear hit on the Giants official scapegoat.

Why not start a thread on Huddersfield hero Eorl Crabtree who seems to be running in slow motion into tackles. He seems to have lost all determination on the field... Makes more of an effort in commentary and for the BBC.

Danny Brough who got sin binned, did a few good runs but failed to lead by example and looked like he hadn't slept for a week. Lacked creativeness completely.

We was a tired, unmotivated shambles and Wakefield had the passion of the underdog. The motivation of proving everyone wrong. It's almost like we think we've won something important and have the God given right to automatically play well and challenge for things.
We need to learn to work hard again as a team.

But Jumbuck I didnt compare Grix with anyone, I simply wondered why his two try saving tackles werent mentioned after he was left badly exposed by the twelve players in front of him who, had failed so badly in the tackling dept,.

I suppose it's because he is supposed to make try saving tackles " when required " and people expect him to do so. Probably unfair a lot of the time. It's the blunders he makes on a regular basis that catch the eye though, Eden was the same , he got slated and ridiculed for his errors, but offsetting that he was exciting to watch on attack, whereas Half of Grix's errors come on attack. He is playing at the wrong level, and he is far from the only one.

Who did play anywhere near well last night?? I honestly can't name anyone. How dare you question Saint Eorl?!

Agree 110%, he has been atrocious all year, barely manages 10 minute stints and looks like throwing his guts up at every break in play. Fitness has totally left him(and to be fair, looks like a similar case with half the side). If we continue with recent talk of which SL side would which player get in, the answer in Mr Crabtree's case is very, very few....if any at all.

Nobody played particularly well.

Connor gave it a good shot. A lot of heart and determination from a young lad who is leaving.

Jerry, Lawrence and Leroy all looked shot but still gave it a go.
Jerry in particular who hasn't had a break and had a short preseason playing for England.
He's shown up a lot of our forwards this year.

Ta'ai knocks on twice. Eorl knocks on. Brough gets himself sin binned. We're 12-0 down. All after barely 15mins. Clearly Grix had the match defining moment!

No credit to Wakefield being better than us throughout 80mins. Grix throwing an interception was the defining moment!

How blind I was!

Totally disagree with you and I 'm not alone. Grix is a good player but not great because he does have brain farts. But as a utility back/HB he's great value - I'd have him back in a heart beat.

Well he's up for grabs as far as I know, although I have heard Fax mentioned. He is no worse than a few of our other players, but how much you have seen of him to rate him so highly I don't know. His good sides are his backing up, and he is as good under the high ball as anyone else in our side, also he is reputedly the brains behind the marshalling of our defence.

His ball returning is arguably the worst you are ever likely to see, and although he does from time to time pull off very good 1 on 1 tackles, more often than not he is left face down on the ground demonstrating his frustration as the try is being scored.

When he joins the line The move usually ends in disappointment, when he was tried at half a few years ago, he was the most tackled with the ball halfback you are ever likely to see, which I assume is why he didn't last there.

With a good coach I can see him having another couple of years in him as a squad player in an average side, When he is the first name down on the team sheet every week you tend to view things differently.

He does get more than his share of blame for things going wrong, but the bottom line is, he is not good enough, We have others in that category as well that I would be happy to see depart with him, Preferably to Wakey, we need to restore the natural order of things,



Well done by the way, It would be nice to see Trin win the C Cup again.

Sad a state of affairs that we have to rely on a Wakey fan to speak some sense on this board.

GRIX was no batter or worse than any other players on the pitch.

Defensively he was very good which is the usual complaint against him.

But like the Brexiters looking to use immigrants as a scapegoat our fans always seem to look at Grix

Wow- we agree on something!

Dont you two get too carried away...........!!