So now the fixtures have been released is everyone happy with them coz me for one is not happy n me and 4 other family members won't be renewing r season tickets dues to the lack of Sunday matches as we can't make Friday nights coz of working think Huddersfield could lose a few more fans coz of this aswel

Had a quick look and counted FIVE Sunday fixtures..

Club needs to think about what it is doing because falling between two days will lose fans from both sides off the fence.

A lot of people have already said they aren't renewing looking at the days of the new fixtures, crowds will be falling again next year by the looks of it !!

The lack of Sunday's is bad enough but the quality of the opposition for those games that are on Sunday may mean people who don't renew may not feel inclined to shell out £24 to watch games they can actually make.

Notice the Saints home game was Sunday but bet your bottom dollar it get changed by Sky. Really disappointing as people have said on the opposition for Sunday games. Travelling over from Manchester in the week means this will be my last year for a while I think. As much as l like sky games I feel it's reaching saturation point, as well as affecting attendances, not just ours.

I personally love Thursday night fixtures.. People need to stop moaning and support your club.. .IT is what it is... Get on with it, it's not going to change... Sitting behind a keyboard and moaning about about SKY and how our attendances are going to drop isn't going to help.

sometimes the games have to be switched to friday not just for sky but because of a short turnaround the following week, the clubs can ask them to be swithced due to player welfare

friday or sunday doesnt really make much difference on the attendance figure going by the attendances in recent seasons for the games played on those days. switches in roundabouts, some may go because its a friday night and not a sunday afternoon

People complaining about games being changed for Sky have no argument, Annoying as it may be, without Sky there would be no Club and probably no game at pro level. He who pays the Piper and all that.

People will get on with it and not renew. It's not going to help true but it's going to happen and attendances will drop.

Sitting behind a keyboard and telling people to stop moaning and support the club is fine but reality dictates there will be a drop and the club need to address that if the finances are critically dependant on gate receipts as opposed to other income.

That's a fair point... The club definitely need to develop a strategy for the fixture changes..

Some people need to 'get over it' that people have opinions that 'personally' differ from their own.

There are many factors for the situation as it is, as has been stated by plenty of people on here. Sitting behind your keyboard as the self appointed thought police is jack all use too.

The club already have developed a strategy with announcement that any games changed to Thursday will result in money refunded on Thursday games that people cannot attend.

Some people can't do Thursday's, some can't do Sunday's, can't cater for every person all the time- it's life.
The club asked what the fans wanted and they said Sunday- unfortunately the clubs also decided they needed sky money- so we are in a situation where there is little consistency- no point folk moaning when they get what they want as well as when they don't!

The easy solution is do not buy a season ticket. Pay when you attend a game. Without The Sky money the Clubs cannot survive.

It's a real shame this. The club have put a lot of time and money into attracting families to games, Thursday nights are not family friendly, Friday nights are not good for young kids either, because of that I won't be renewing. Hopefully my interest will continue enough to pay on the day for Sunday afternoon games. Maybe when my family are older I will return as a season ticket holder.

just a quick one on this, has anyone thought to give feedback to the club? if you are planning on not renewing then maybe offer the club some feedback on why?
that way then at least the club have a general idea on why attendances, and /or season ticket sales are declining.
i'm pretty sure they would be glad to get the feedback, also maybe join the supporters association and use it as a voice?

Have done this before and suggested all sorts of options
half season ticket, sunday games only, options for choosing your games etc etc.

Loads of options mentioned time and again

Zero reception from the club

The issue isn't so much about what day games are on as the fact that there is ZERO knowledge of when any games are actually on beyond ticket holders

Take away a regular fixture time and then anyone but a ticket holder doesn't know when the games are so disconnects from the club

Answer? Advertising

Which the club never does

Oh well

I've given my idea's to the board face to face and they've all been dismissed instantly by Mr Thewlis in the past.
As for advertising, to be fair to the club in the past they have accepted this has been a problem and did ask fans to help by printing off or collecting posters/flyers etc for their workplace/local area but as usual there was a very poor response from the fans ...yes i know it's not the fans place to do it but it wouldn't harm just helping a little bit if it indeed did help the club, who had acknowledged they hadn't or couldnt do more in the past and we're actively looking for the fans to help. Fans won't help the club but then slate the club for not doing anything.

I'll do them a swap. I reckon I might get some free time if the club want to take my kids to football & swimming lessons, help me tour open days for secondary schools in West Leeds and fill in my daughter's preference form. Then they can reorganise my man-cave, get my windows refitted before the Winter draws in.... and do the extra hours I need to put in at the office this week. Hell, maybe they'll do me breakfast in bed and give me a 'livener' before I leave the house? After all, I'm their fan; I deserve it!


I won't bother asking for help with the Christmas shopping cos I know they're skint!

It was obviously aimed at fans who had some spare time on their hands or wouldn't mind giving up some of theirs to help. Not everyone could or was willing to....

Daz we are talking here about a business, professionally run by some highly paid people, It costs enough to go and watch a game without having to do your stint at getting the job up and running.
What would you think if M&S asked you if you could do a stint sweeping up, next time you went for a sweater, I know what I would think.

There is yourself, Meast and probably quite a few more on here, whose support and commitment to the club is admirable , It would seem to be a big part of your life, There is nothing at all wrong with that, but you are few and far between mate, The average supporter wants to go and watch a game " if and when he feels like it " and he wants to be entertained.

It is up to the club " with it's highly paid staff" ( and I don't care if it's only a quarter of what Wigan have ) to let the people know when a game is on, and more importantly to make sure those people get what they want to see, " or they just wont come back for more " It's that simple in business. And Rugby league is a business.

With regards to Sky, Each club get I believe around £2 million a year. It doesn't take much working out what the club are going to do, when Sky says you are playing Thursday night. They own the game and clubs will do what they have to do to get the money.

Sadly though those who "just want to turn up and be entertained" are the ones that moan about the club not doing enough. The sad fact is if you just want to turn up and be entertained you get what you get as without commitment the club can't move forward. And that is exactly why the RFL have chosen saints......

Who mentioned sweeping up ? hardly comparable to asking someone to print something off their computer to stick in a shop window when they go in !!

And yes the club is a big part of my life but i also realise that the club isn't this huge. self sustaining, multi million pound, successful business some seem to think it is or should be, and needs help now and again.

See this is part of our problem, fans (people) complain that the club do/don't do something right/wrong and when they try and do something they get complained at for trying to do something cos it's not the right thing ! either the club will never ever do the right thing in some's eyes or some people like to pick fault and complain for the sake of it ......what exactly do folk want the club to do ?? obviously not the things a huge. self sustaining, multi million pound, successful business would do as we aren't that !!.

If people have any ideas then why join the [url=http://www.giantssupporters.co.uk/Forms/Membership.htmlSupporters Association[/url and let's get the club to listen to our ideas, that's what we're here for !!

I know where you are coming from here but sadly or otherwise the "just want to turn up and be entertained ones " are exactly the ones Mr Davy is trying to get through the gates< the club are perfectly safe with the Daz's and Meast's. ( no offence )

I would have thought that despite the clubs league position, the fact that crowds are falling is a fair indicator that the people who are running the club are definitely not getting something right. But that's not the case for some is it ? It's the people's fault, It's the day of the week games are played, It's this, it's that , It's the Huddersfield people who don't deserve a club, it's something else, but it is never anything to do with the club being at fault.
Now if me stating the blatantly obvious makes me a moaner then fine , but then anyone who posts anything on this board , that is remotely critical of the club is branded as a moaner.

I was being told only Yesterday that Huddersfield has the biggest percentage of golfers per head of population in the North of England. I don't know if that's true , or even how he knew that, but it proves a point, If you want to win those people over to League , then you have to attract them away from golf or whatever else it is they spend their money on , If you can't then you just go down hill, " same as any other business " But most businesses tend to look for problems within, rather than blame their customers for expecting too much.

Daz I have said before that your support and commitment does you credit, if the club is a big part of your life , then good for you, But it's not a big part of my life and many thousands of other Huddersfield people's, It's entertainment, they don't want to be part of the club, or the supporters association, they just want to turn up to watch Hopefully a good match " when they feel like it". That's the nature of entertainment mate, and if they don't like what they see, they won't go next time, If they do they may well go back for more, that has to be the aim.

You being such a dedicated fan may well not like what I have said, But I think the real problem for you is that you can't understand why other people don't feel about the Giants like you do, But the size of the Population of Huddersfield and the size of the Giants hard-core fan base is the answer staring you in the face.

According to jools the reason the RFL selected Saints rather than the Giants, was because of people like me who want to be entertained, and are the reason the club can't go forward. Once again It's the people's fault, nothing to do with the club, or It's lack of ambition, They are being let down by the very people who are helping to pay the wages.

Bottom line is , Rugby league 60/70 years ago was a major source of entertainment, Today by comparison is Space age, with an absolute wealth of things on offer. If League in general and Giants in particular want there share of punters, they had better get their act together. That's not a moan or a criticism it's a fact.