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| I did not put this post on last night because my blood was still boiling.
The team yesterday was a complete disgrace.
I am most upset because I work in these pressures as a sales person and if I buckle when it gets stressful I get sacked simples.
I want to see some real re percussions what ever they may be.
As good a player as Mr Brough is I have yet to see him fire against a decent team in a semi final or final even when he won the Cup with Hull he was a squad player and his contribution was to kick a goal from nearly bang in front.
All we had to do yesterday was to crack Westwood, Wood, Morley etc in the ribs in good hard tackle technique and we would have seen a very different outcome.
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| repercussions?
go on then what would you like to see?? drop half the team for next week??
we are 2nd in the super league table, have you been to any other games this season.
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| I have been to the vast majority of games but you have missed the point when will we start to care and win a big game I think the players think its acceptable to come second it isn't winning something is why should we accept mediocre I want silver not the tin pot.
I want repercussion to be done internally. Why would I say drop half the team ?
These guys have got to start performing on the big stage.
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| Quote ="Fartown84"I have been to the vast majority of games but you have missed the point when will we start to care and win a big game I think the players think its acceptable to come second it isn't winning something is why should we accept mediocre I want silver not the tin pot.
I want repercussion to be done internally. Why would I say drop half the team ?
These guys have got to start performing on the big stage.'"
start to care??? the players do care, some are busting guts week on week out the field.
was the leeds game in the last round of the cup not a big game? we won that. were the wins at leeds, wigan , catalans, st helens not bigs games? we won all those too.
going to be many disappointed teams/fans this season as there is only two trophies to win. at least we are still in the mix for one which alot of teams cant say. at the start of this season most people didnt even have us in the top 8!!! now we are going well people are getting high expectations again.
we are punching above our weight.
repercussions internally??? ok like what?????? dont forget we are 2nd in the league.
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| I dont think yesterday was about not caring, we were hammered by a damn good side who got into us early and we lost confidence etc...it was disappointing but we have to regroup and focus on the bigger task in hand - win our next 6 games and we win silverware !!
What exactly are you suggesting happens ?
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| One repercussion I would like to see would be for Baloo to rally the lads and we go on a 6 match win streak.
Despite yesterday most neutrals would expect us to beat, Salford, London, Bradford, Cas and Wakey, though some of those games will be tricky and two of those clubs have already beaten us this season. If we can win those 5 then the game against Wigan will decide wether we win the League Leaders shield.
Not an easy task by any stretch, but a clear goal to focus on.
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| The important thing is not to follow this performance with another like it - AKA Brown era!!!
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| A lot of players under performed yesterday (IMO all apart from Ferguson and Mullally)
However as stated we were undone by a great performance from Wire.
You state you would be sacked if you under performed?
So you are the 2nd highest sales rep in the country, but then have one bad day in 6 months and you get sacked?
I don't know who you work for but I hope you are in the union!
As ed off as I was yesterday this team has give me a lot more high points than low this year. Hopefully it will continue.
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| Brearley
The games you mention were not big games they were league games earlier in the season which the clubs you mention will not be desperate to win because they effectively mean nothing unless you win the grand final maybe that highlights the problem of what you accept I don't want to finish second I don't even want to finish top unless we are going to go to the grand final and win.
My point is we don't beat these teams in massive games when there is a lot at stake on a regular basis.
Fartownforlife
For your information I have been ranked number one in the business in terms of my performance for the last two years however when the heat is on in the last couple of months in the financial year I don't buckle I perform the Giants don't.
All I want is a trophy and not to buckle under pressure when the players tell us in the press they are up for it and they think they are going to win when they do the opposite !!
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| It was a bad day, that`s all, no Wembley this year.
A few years back Warrington were like us :- a lot of promise but not quite getting there, but they are getting there nowadays.
If we don`t win anything this year it has been a good year during the season.
Supporters expect far too much these days, we used to go to a game just to enjoy the game and hope for a win. The mentality these days is win at all costs.
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| Quote ="Fartown84"Brearley
The games you mention were not big games they were league games earlier in the season which the clubs you mention will not be desperate to win because they effectively mean nothing unless you win the grand final maybe that highlights the problem of what you accept I don't want to finish second I don't even want to finish top unless we are going to go to the grand final and win.
My point is we don't beat these teams in massive games when there is a lot at stake on a regular basis.
Fartownforlife
For your information I have been ranked number one in the business in terms of my performance for the last two years however when the heat is on in the last couple of months in the financial year I don't buckle I perform the Giants don't.
All I want is a trophy and not to buckle under pressure when the players tell us in the press they are up for it and they think they are going to win when they do the opposite !!'"
Well you better let David Cameron know how good you are, and you can sell more British goods abroad.
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| Quote ="Fartown84"Brearley
The games you mention were not big games they were league games earlier in the season which the clubs you mention will not be desperate to win because they effectively mean nothing unless you win the grand final maybe that highlights the problem of what you accept I don't want to finish second I don't even want to finish top unless we are going to go to the grand final and win.
My point is we don't beat these teams in massive games when there is a lot at stake on a regular basis.
Fartownforlife
For your information I have been ranked number one in the business in terms of my performance for the last two years however when the heat is on in the last couple of months in the financial year I don't buckle I perform the Giants don't.
All I want is a trophy and not to buckle under pressure when the players tell us in the press they are up for it and they think they are going to win when they do the opposite !!'"
You're not alec baldwin in Glengarry Glen Ross are you?
Do you use the word buckle in real life a lot?
do you have high blood pressure?
What do you sell just out of interest, I'd like to know what similarities there are in "buckling" on a rugby field and say, not selling enough toner cartridges.
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| My dad is bigger than yours, I've lost my dummy looks like someone has had theirs stolen.......................deary me
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"You're not alec baldwin in Glengarry Glen Ross are you?
Do you use the word buckle in real life a lot?
do you have high blood pressure?
What do you sell just out of interest, I'd like to know what similarities there are in "buckling" on a rugby field and say, not selling enough toner cartridges.'"
I'm going evens on double glazing or mobile phones ..
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| Quote ="Fartown84"Brearley
The games you mention were not big games they were league games earlier in the season which the clubs you mention will not be desperate to win because they effectively mean nothing unless you win the grand final maybe that highlights the problem of what you accept I don't want to finish second I don't even want to finish top unless we are going to go to the grand final and win.
My point is we don't beat these teams in massive games when there is a lot at stake on a regular basis.
Fartownforlife
For your information I have been ranked number one in the business in terms of my performance for the last two years however when the heat is on in the last couple of months in the financial year I don't buckle I perform the Giants don't.
All I want is a trophy and not to buckle under pressure when the players tell us in the press they are up for it and they think they are going to win when they do the opposite !!'"
ok you want us to win something, dont we all!! what did you expect at the start of this season? go on be honest.... i think this team has already provided us with a cracking season.
warrington are our bogey team, shame its them we keep bumping into!!
and until the the town starts getting behind the club and buying season tickets we are always going to be punching above our weight in terms of money to spend on top players that win trophies...
i think the topic headline is disgraceful to post after such a good season we are having, where have you been all season with the great wins we have had... selling?
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| Quote ="Fartown84"I did not put this post on last night because my blood was still boiling.
The team yesterday was a complete disgrace.
I am most upset because I work in these pressures as a sales person and if I buckle when it gets stressful I get sacked simples.
I want to see some real re percussions what ever they may be.
As good a player as Mr Brough is I have yet to see him fire against a decent team in a semi final or final even when he won the Cup with Hull he was a squad player and his contribution was to kick a goal from nearly bang in front.
All we had to do yesterday was to crack Westwood, Wood, Morley etc in the ribs in good hard tackle technique and we would have seen a very different outcome.'"
Are you for real? We've beat Wigan at home, done the double over saints and Leeds AND knocked them out of the cup... We're 2nd in the league a point behind the leaders (still having to play them) but you can still sit there and call the team "A complete disgrace" just have a think back over the past few seasons and compare them to this season then try calling them a disgrace, if so then you really don't have a clue what your talking about
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| I agree, It was an utter disgrace.
Every Huddersfield player on show yesterday should be dropped for next week.
(Give us a chance then ha)
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| Cracking thread this.
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| Quote ="Fartown84"I did not put this post on last night because my blood was still boiling.
The team yesterday was a complete disgrace.
I am most upset because I work in these pressures as a sales person and if I buckle when it gets stressful I get sacked simples.
I want to see some real re percussions what ever they may be.
As good a player as Mr Brough is I have yet to see him fire against a decent team in a semi final or final even when he won the Cup with Hull he was a squad player and his contribution was to kick a goal from nearly bang in front.
All we had to do yesterday was to crack Westwood, Wood, Morley etc in the ribs in good hard tackle technique and we would have seen a very different outcome.'"
I am not surprised in the slightest that the Giants got well beaten in yesterdays CC quarter final against Warrington, and until the club and it's much lauded world beating players can handle knock out football when it matters then they will continue to constantly fail in these big games
If you giants fans think that I am trolling then so be it, but you guys we're lording it up big time when you took the Rhinos to the cleaners in this seasons encounters, I still believe that either the Wolves or the Rhinos will win this years GF,and that the Wolves could even do the double, I believe that you will definitely finish in the top 3 but will do nothing come the play offs sadly
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| If you keep knocking at the door eventually someone will answer.
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| The team didn't perform like we know they can, like they know they can and like they have all season
They'll fix it for next week and now let's back them for the LLS
Wire were phenomenal, everything stuck and they played 30 mins of perfect rugby against us - compounded by us being well off the mark and getting none of the 50/50 calls
The OP is well wide of the mark imo
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| Quote ="Code13"The team didn't perform like we know they can, like they know they can and like they have all season
They'll fix it for next week and now let's back them for the LLS
Wire were phenomenal, everything stuck and they played 30 mins of perfect rugby against us - compounded by us being well off the mark and getting none of the 50/50 calls
The OP is well wide of the mark imo'"
well, you were offside at marker, a lot
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| So were Wire, and you could have set up camp you laid on that long...throw in you scored two tries from penalties that should have gone to Huddersfield and two more from massive forward passes...
Take a compliment for what it is instead if singling out one comment to make yourself feel clever
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| hey i'm not, its just one thing i noticed that really took the yesterday couple if times you were literally stood behind the fella playing the ball, i would've been embarressed had we done it.
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| Both sides were never square, both sides drifted offside constantly - wire step off the mark every time they get - Thats why they can scoot from dummy half so often. Nothing new, Saints used to do it all the time
So it's 50/50 to call one side not square or say the other stepped off the mark
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