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| who has been your top 3 players this season then - i am presuming that with only a few weeks to go there isn't going to be anyone else comin to the fore so here's mine, feel free to disagree/agree... ...fill yer boots .
1. Larne Patrick - his progression this year has been awesome and he is beginning to turn into a bloody good player, he's a joy to watch in full flight and cant half shift. We've struggled with our props this year but thank god we have had this lad to carry us forward - i am looking forward to watching him develop into one of England's best !!
2. Kevin Brown - easy to see why our season fell apart last year when he got injured - our main playmaker this year and he's getting better and better all the time, most of the good bum-raising stuff we do comes through this fella
3. David Hodgson - this guy's finishing is awesome and he does it time and time again - i dont care how flash or fancy he isn't, he's paid to score tries and does it - lots of times !! cant believe i still here people saying we should get rid of him cos he does nothing
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| I would have to agree with all above choices.
POS for me is Brown without a doubt.
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| i gave mine to Larne above Kev mainly because of his progression in the last year , on the pitch they have probably both had the same impact .
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"i gave mine to Larne above Kev mainly because of his progression in the last year , on the pitch they have probably both had the same impact .'"
I will never forget his try at HULL KR this year. DO you know what?... I think I might be changing my mind!
[url=http://www.hullkr.tv/match-highlights?v=37LINK scroll to 2.25[/url
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| What i put on the coach back from leeds on the player of the season
1. Not Brough
2. Not Brough
3. Not Brough
But seriously
1. Patrick
2. Fuey
3. Robbo/Brown
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| [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=735likewise cockney, scroll to 8.50 here ![/url
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| Quote ="Eaton"[size=150What i put on the coach back from leeds on the player of the season
1. Not Brough
2. Not Brough
3. Not Brough[/size
But seriously
1. Patrick
2. Fuey
3. Robbo/Brown'"
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/video/player.php?id=735likewise cockney, scroll to 8.50 here ![/url'"
Superb. He had no right to score that try - Awesome!
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| I forgot this site was a Brough appriecation society
Its a shame Fa'alogo has been hit by problems if not he would be up there.
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| Quote ="Eaton"I forgot this site was a Brough appriecation society
Its a shame Fa'alogo has been hit by problems if not he would be up there.'"
its not , its also not an Anti - Brough society
why didn't you put not .............'.every other player you didnt want to choose' as well as Brough then ?
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| Top 3 players for me is anyone but Brough.
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| Larne Patrick - Absolute animal. Always runs in at about 100mph and always comes off the best.. love watching him.. hard as nails.
David Faiumu - What an amazing sidestep! We've scored so many tries from it this season.. his tackling is top notch also.
Lunt - My favourite player... just awesome, going to be sad to see him go after next season.
IMO Brough is improving with each game, we're still yet to see his best though.
EDIT: Please Mr Brown sign Larne Patrick up long term!
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| Quote ="YettonGiant"
Lunt - My favourite player... just awesome, going to be sad to see him go after next season.
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100% agree he will be a miss if he goes! ... but I don't feel we have seen the best of him this season been very hit & miss.
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| 1 Kev Brown By a mile best player. Finally lived up to the potential at number 6 he had when at Wigan
2 Luke Robinson - Hard as nails and tackling has come on a ton.
3 Leroy Cudjoe - Played in every position he has been asked to and done well in them all.
Young player of the year - Larne Patrick getting better by the game.
Gilmour was unlucky to miss out over 600 tackles and very few missed. The unsung hero.
As for Dodgy in the top 3. Sorry but the majority of his tries have been walk ins. We need a faster winger who beats people. time and time again Dodgy goes inside rather than take on the man. Nothing against him but age has caught up with him.
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| If you really think scoring twenty plus tries in a season is acheived without skill and technique then you obviously have little understanding of the game. He is only behind the two Wigan wingers in tries scored and up with the two warrington wingers. And with the way those two sides play they will have had more ball in attacking positions than Hodgson. Compared to other wingers he has 4 more tries than ryan Hall, 5 more than Cudjoe and 10 tries more than so called fliers Fox,Briscoe and Gardner.
I would take someone anyday who gets over the whitewash than some speed merchant with little positional sense.
As for my top three
1)Brown
2)Robinson
3) Faiumu
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| 1) Patrick
2) fuey
3) dodgy
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| 1) dodgy (he's done exactly what it needs) try try try try and no fancy stuff
2) patrick (progressive and next year could be awsome)
3) grix / aspy grix has come on strong towards the end of the season, however had aspy not been injured he would have been my no.2
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| Quote ="the stella kid"If you really think scoring twenty plus tries in a season is acheived without skill and technique then you obviously have little understanding of the game. He is only behind the two Wigan wingers in tries scored and up with the two warrington wingers. And with the way those two sides play they will have had more ball in attacking positions than Hodgson. Compared to other wingers he has 4 more tries than ryan Hall, 5 more than Cudjoe and 10 tries more than so called fliers Fox,Briscoe and Gardner.
I would take someone anyday who gets over the whitewash than some speed merchant with little positional sense.
As for my top three
1)Brown
2)Robinson
3) Faiumu'"
I'm not sure how you are qualified to comment on my understanding or not of the game but that aside I didn't say the Hodgson didn't have skill or technique. I said that he wasn't in my top three because most of his tries are walk ins and that he is now past his best. The David Hodgson at Wigan had the speed to go with his technique. He has never recovered from his injuries a few years ago and now has to rely on his technique.
In relation to chances for Wingers I would say that Huddersfields wingers certainly have more than those at Leeds. Huddresfields game is based on getting the ball out wide, hence all the tries for wingers. Leeds have not done that this season nor for that matter have Hull KR or Hull. the three teams that spin the ball wide Wigan, Warrington and Hudds have plenty of tries for wingers. The thing is that both Warringtons and Wigans wingers score plenty of 50 metre plus tries. For us McGilvery and Cudjoe might but Dodgy will not. He still warrants a place in the side (if nothing else for his defence and technical skills) but he is not the complete winger he once was (and hence not in my top 3).
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| On the Daid Hodgson issue bot sides have a point but they are both emphasising different aspects to his game and comparisons with other teams and wingers are unfair.
IMHO there are two types of wingers Finishers and Creators.
Finishers score tries that are set up by the centres or the teams players eg Hodgson, gardner etc
Creators are wingers who through there own flamboyance and skill can create a try on the basis of their indavidual play ie Amos Roberst, jason Robinson.
Creators are always more exciting and interesting to watch and tend to attract the plaudits. they are however Expensive and very sought after. that is why lots of teams have finishers or a combination of two . Wigan have Roberts but they also have Goulding. Would you swap Goulding for Hodgy i wouldnt.
Our teams style of play is based on teamwork rather than indavidual flair players. Hodgson fits in very well with that approach , he is a finisher and a team player. he fits into the ethos of the team very well. I have been impressed with him this year but i do thrill at seeing the likes of Roberts scoring a 70 metre try.
Do you want a team of big names who produce one week and do not the next ie wire of a couple of years ago or a team that produces week in and week out
You cannot however have players like Roberts without paying a premium which might mean us not having a fa alogo or a Brown or Brough.
I am happy we can have wingers who score walk in tries because that shows the centres and halves and forwards are doing there job.
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| Nice post Durham. I think you have explained both sides argument quite well.
For eaxample Wigan had Dennis Ramsdale (dependable) on one wing and Henderson Gil (uber flamboyant)l on the other.
As for Goulding I would certainly sign him as a potential replacement for Dodgy. He's younger and a similar type of player.
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| I agree that Hodgson is not the fastest but that is a problem that runs through the side. Even Mcgillivary did not look that quick when he scored his interception the other week.
Some real pace in the side would be nice but their are not many players around who fit the bill. I would though like to see an outside back signed for next season but certainly not at the expense of Hodgson.
Other than interceptions you see very few long range tries by any team.
As for suggestion Hodgson is past it. I would suggest he is actually playing better than he ever has. He has scored 22 tries this season and scored 18 last season. The most he ver scored at Wigan was 16 and the most he ever scored at Salford was 13.
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| I am finding it difficult to list my top 3. My list, in no particular order, goes:
Mase - continued his outstanding, never-put-a-foot-back form of last year;
Fooey - for his tackling, his side-step, and now his offload;
Robbo - simply shown outstanding form;
Patrick - agreed, young player of the year, and when he becomes prop size, well!!;
Leroy - apart from the extremely rare dropped bomb, Mr Dependable.
Hodgy seems a far better player with Bruno alongside him. It's as though he knows he doesn't have to worry about cutting inside to defend leaving his winger free.
Lunt and Eorl haven't yet shown last season's form - but there's time!
I've been a fan of Grix since his arrival and really felt for him when Brough arrived. I hope he can make FB his own.
It will be a shame to split the 'twins' up - Wild has been our forwards' rock for many years now. It will be interesting to see where Gilmour plays next season. [Well, can [i:1ikvdp81you[/i
And no disrespect to the players I haven't mentioned, especially since I was only supposed to name 3!
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| 1 Brown
2 Mason
3 Robbo
most improved Patrick
l wish fans would stop having a go at Brough, like him or not, he is a Giants player, and we should back him, we should back them all, especially if they are struggling. l do not see a single bad player in our squad, our entire squad, we all have our favorites, but thats as far as it should go.
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| most players have had a fantastic season. when we play well the whole team has played well and when we play bad no one has played good. my top 3 though will be:
1) larne patrick - runs the ball in really hard scored some good trys and he is my favourite player.
2) luke robinson - i think robbo has played well both at 7 and 9 and keep improving every week and for me he is a key player if we are to progress in the play offs and in the next few years.
3) kev brown - deserved his england call up because he is brilliant. mixes it up all the time and very dangerous to oppostion players
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| Quote ="the stella kid"I agree that Hodgson is not the fastest but that is a problem that runs through the side. Even Mcgillivary did not look that quick when he scored his interception the other week.
Some real pace in the side would be nice but their are not many players around who fit the bill. I would though like to see an outside back signed for next season but certainly not at the expense of Hodgson.
Other than interceptions you see very few long range tries by any team.
As for suggestion Hodgson is past it. I would suggest he is actually playing better than he ever has. He has scored 22 tries this season and scored 18 last season. The most he ver scored at Wigan was 16 and the most he ever scored at Salford was 13.'" Jermain did not look quick, maybe because it was in the 79th minute of the game, just for that one statement i cant take the rest seriously.
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