All post game chat here

Thank God i did not go

Fsking unaceptable

Brown Out.

Third season in a row! Middle season rotting! Can not believe how our team has started to be so poor...I know they haven't been convincing recently but god at least we could win ugly, and now we have lost the ability to do that! Seriously stunned! When we went ahead I thought this would be the start of some improved performances from our boys but it isn't to be! Starting to worry about hkr next Monday!

nathan brown of to st helens NOW

Kevin?

Just not good enough, back to basics and Brown to make a mess of his garden and not our season.

I honestly thought this was going to be the start of a return to form! A good win by twenty or more and we would have pinched back third from Catalan! Shell shocked oh to be a fartown fan beat Wigan Leeds saints lose to hkr widness Salford! Consistency would be nice!

Honestly this result is no surprise to me at all. We have been absolutely trash for over a month now. No defence, sloppy attack & couldn't care less attitude. I really am not shocked that we lost to Widnes. They have been due a win whereas we've been going downhill fast.

All this talk of witch hunts against certain players/coaching staff on here etc is just people papering over the cracks of a side that simply isn't earning their wages. The usual suspects were crap again today. Not a witch hunt, just a statement of fact. Take it or leave it.

Congratulations Widnes.

How is this Brown's doing though? His replacement is also his assistant, so surely Anderson should also shoulder some of the 'blame'. Brown and Anderson out?

So only Brough, Eorl & Ferguson earned their money today then?

It isn't just nathen brown though is it! The players on the park are the same ones that have been turning teams over this season! Where's that bloody psychologist who was going to make believers out of our players.......then again maybe that's it they believe they have to just turn up to get the win!

But NB is the one picking centres at loose forward, second rows at prop and second rows at centre.

Buck stops with Brown

Not really a shock to be honest. Always said Brown isn't this world class coach some said he was and was shouted down. Wonder if the same folks may be starting to wonder now.
This happened last season and NB couldn't stop the rot then so why would this season be any different? No disrespect to Widnes but Wire stuck a truckload past em last week as have alot of clubs this season.
Shocking shocking result and ranks up there with the Hull KR away and Salford last week. Maybe NB already at Saints, as others always point out, never mind only 1 game and we still up there, belly laugh, keep this form up and we won't make the 8. Pissed ed off big time. Well done Widnes

We all know we will get the same response from him though. Been all said before "we know there were some areas the oppisition was better than us and we will work on this" ect ect!

Lunt <> Moore seems to have been around the loss of form.

That's one decision that's left me utterly baffled for one and watching Lunt for Leeds it seems to me it's just what we were missing!

And one of the reasons I'm saying Brown out now

i absolutely agree, someone i know who works within the england knights camp i know said how angry all the giants lads were down there speaking to them at the signing of moore and the loss of lunt. Brown to go NOW

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Yup hence why NB needs to take majority of the blame. One of his main jobs is to keep players feet on the ground, keep the hungry, aggressive and nasty, any sign of complacency and it's his boot that kicks em up the or him who drops em. What a crock of e last 3 weeks have been

at the present moment we are probably on a par with widnes and london for being the worst team in the league

I know its not going to fix things up but Lee I supposed to be back next week. Hopefully he can get our squad flowing a bit better? Still iour defense is falling to pieces!?

Living in London couldn't make game. Am appalled at last 2 results, though I think we were over achieving earlier in season. How bad was today? Shame that he doesn't/can't drop players. Was worried about today. Rightly so after that result. Like last week I didn't expect to hold them out for last few minutes. Depressing!

Missed chance to wire losing and Catalan losing! Had to be kr beating wire before we play them! Kr will be buzzing and our lot well probably be in a state of shock and depression!

Brown out
Get Lunt back
Stick to basic RL
Players in position

next game on sky v HULLKR

1 eden
2 mcgillvary
3 murphy
4 wardle
5 george
6 brown
7 brough
8 crabtree
9 robinson
10 mason
11 faaologo
12 gilmour
13 faiumu

14 patrick
15 ferguson
16 chan
17 lee

drop - cudjoe and grix been dire for weeks now,grix isnt 6.
send moore to saints now along with brown
not sure about luke sicknote odonnell?????? will he be back

this is a team where players are playing in there own positions,what next crabtree back to the centres because he was good there in the championship and robinson to prop?????