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| Quote ="brearley84"acton knew about bird's condition then before lifting him up by the scruff of the neck?? when he retires he should become a doctor..seems he has the skills already'"
If bans are to be judged on potential injury, then Danny Brough is very lucky not to have had a lengthy ban this season.
As said previously, he grabbed someone by the collar, wasn't long later that Bird was back on the pitch having a fight.
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| Quote ="atomic"Actually the only one who knew Birds condition was the doctor who let him back on. I'm not condoning Actons action in the same way I'm not condoning cheating,but lets at least have all the factual evidence on the table first before passing judgement.'"
Which, I suspect, is why the club has asked for another week to gather evidence.
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| Quote ="brearley84"acton knew about bird's condition then before lifting him up by the scruff of the neck?? when he retires he should become a doctor..seems he has the skills already'"
Well of course he did! don't forget Jamie's disciplinary record suggest he's the dirtiest player in the league so, he's bound to know the best course of action having completed a cheap shot and, injuring an opponent is to fake injury and hope for the best
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| The best course of action for Leigh is, get the best Brief they can afford, get rid of the Sky commentary, speak to the people involved and find some precedents to present his mitigation!
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| Quote ="Alan"Which, I suspect, is why the club has asked for another week to gather evidence.'"
Either that or it's a Salford/Carney scenario.
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Hiya Mr Cat thanks for your input incidently, Dog fighting is illegal
You say it was not a late challenge? where was Ben Reynolds hiding the Ball then? Answer, 20 yards down field where he kicked before being hit late ! Reynolds is over six feet tall (I think) and Bird swivels his body to connect with Ben just before impact!
Stop listening to Phil Clarke and co and look at the action in slow motion!
Sky went on about our second try and Crooks foot in touch well, it was clearly in touch however, he didn't have his hands on the ball at the time and when he did pick the Ball up he moved his foot back into play! Exactly what the linesman saw
Regarding picking Reynolds up, do you know if there was any rhetoric between Ben and Jamie? or indeed, between Bird and Jamie?
Anyone who's ever played halfback will know its reassuring to have one of your forwards looking out for you particularly when cowards like Bird are around! Alex Murphy was always grateful for the 'protection' Vince Karalius gave him and I'm sure, there are many other halfbacks that have received the same protection from team mates! If Bens not already thanked you Jamie, i'll do it now on his behalf
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I've Just watched it back again, the ball has literally just left Ben's foot when contact is made. Unfortunately everyone is making strawman arguments because you know it's a very very foolish decision that he made, especially considering concussion and injury protocols that have been in place since last season.
There's no excuse, or mitigation, or even a precedent, because no one has been stupid enough to do what he did.
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| There's no excuse,but there is mitigation for the grading,or Leigh wouldn't even bother trying.
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| Quote ="kirkhall"
Sky went on about our second try and Crooks foot in touch well, it was clearly in touch however, he didn't have his hands on the ball at the time and when he did pick the Ball up he moved his foot back into play! Exactly what the linesman saw
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And where was Ben Reynolds as all this was unfolding ?
Flat on his back after being hit with a late/high shot by Sam moa
But they weren't targeting him , oh no
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"And where was Ben Reynolds as all this was unfolding ?
Flat on his back after being hit with a late/high shot by Sam moa
But they weren't targeting him , oh no
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And indeed, Moa was cited by the Review Panel, not for the high shot on Reynolds, but for one on Danny Tickle. Here's what the Disciplinary decided:- [i"Player makes contact with opponent after ball has been passed. Contact is late. No contact with head of opponent. Penalty sufficient."[/i
Unlike Bird's challenge with Reynolds, which did make (considerable) contact with the opponent's head!
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| Quote ="Alan"And indeed, Moa was cited by the Review Panel, not for the high shot on Reynolds, but for one on Danny Tickle. Here's what the Disciplinary decided:- [i"Player makes contact with opponent after ball has been passed. Contact is late. No contact with head of opponent. Penalty sufficient."[/i
Unlike Bird's challenge with Reynolds, which did make (considerable) contact with the opponent's head!
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Yet neither the ref nor the citing panel thought so, and yes I appreciate the wink, but a lot of people seem to be making more of the challenge than the "experts"
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| Theres a quite simple answer to all of this. When a video ref is in place..1.1 part 2 paragraph 3 [iuse him as required.[/i
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| The point is there is a brotherhood rule amongst players that you look after your own when someone is injured , that's why you see opposite players roll the injured player into the recovery position , that's how you get respect in the game .a good friend of mine was left paralysed by a similar incident , a good few years ago . Acton will not get the respect of other players with actions like that
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| Quote ="kirkhall"The best course of action for Leigh is, get the best Brief they can afford, get rid of the Sky commentary, speak to the people involved and find some precedents to present his mitigation!'"
As we all know the disciplinary panel is a kangaroo court and I understand they don't want professional lawyers presenting cases.
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| Quote ="Willy"As we all know the disciplinary panel is a kangaroo court and I understand they don't want professional lawyers presenting cases.'" like keith freer
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| Quote ="fetchit"icon_confused.gif: like keith freer'"
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I've Just watched it back again, the ball has literally just left Ben's foot when contact is made. Unfortunately everyone is making strawman arguments because you know it's a very very foolish decision that he made, especially considering concussion and injury protocols that have been in place since last season.
There's no excuse, or mitigation, or even a precedent, because no one has been stupid enough to do what he did.'"
totally agree, should carry tll 8 for me and his exit
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| Quote ="EVO105"totally agree, should carry tll 8 for me and his exit'"
Do you go watching Leigh? If so, Why. You never have anything constructive or positive to say.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Do you go watching Leigh? If so, Why. You never have anything constructive or positive to say.
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I dont think it was that late tbh , and bird wasnt acting , not unconscious but defo dazed also think 8 matches is severe if acton recieves that
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| Quote ="Genehunt"I dont think it was that late tbh , and bird wasnt acting , not unconscious but defo dazed also think 8 matches is severe if acton recieves that'"
How late is then? its either late or not and, as Ben Reynolds is not in possession of the Ball, its late
Its high too!! Greg Bird also put Lazarus to shame (not Glen ).
We have an incident here where a player has committed a foul and Broke an opponents nose and, he's not punished
Another player's action's 'could' have injured a player and he's facing a lengthy ban
I don't know which Teams you Guys support however, when Greg Bird injures one of your players, perhaps you may have something to say
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| Quote ="fetchit"The point is there is a brotherhood rule amongst players that you look after your own when someone is injured , that's why you see opposite players roll the injured player into the recovery position , that's how you get respect in the game .a good friend of mine was left paralysed by a similar incident , a good few years ago . Acton will not get the respect of other players with actions like that'"
Are you talking about Jamie Acton getting the respect of Greg Bird? Jamie had just watched Bird flatten his teammate off the Ball and injure him Jamie will have Ben Reynolds respect and, that of Bens family too
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| I've said it before and I'll say it again, if Jamie Acton or Gareth Hock had Broken Luke Walsh's nose after he'd kicked the ball it would have been a straight Red Further more, there would have been a brawl as the Catalan players are not shy at piling in, as we saw, on Saturday!!
Jamie Acton is probably the best young prop forward in Super League and, I'm certain every SL Coach would take him. Petulance is Jaimie's problem not dirty play which injures players and, when he can rid himself of this petulance England will have a top player
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