Is it just me that sees a worrying pattern emerging here already.....

W***n making noises about supporting Leigh trying to get back into the Championship

RFL having introduced dual-registration contracts with the promise that such contracts will not fully count (or maybe not count at all? Can't remember) on the salary cap.

Leigh due for a meeting with the RFL to ask for dispensation on the cap this year due to being relegated.

If we're as close to the cap already as reported then we may get a small amount of leeway, but I wouldn't be surprised if we got the promise that dual-registered players brought in to complete our squad won't count on the cap or the loan quota. That way we can't complain as we're allowed to build a squad for the coming season, the RFL force us to sign up to their latest hair-brained scheme (and one which eventually confines us to the Championship for good), and Wigan get room freed up on their own cap, a feeder club into the bargain, and somewhere for their over-age reserves to stay match fit.

15 U21's suddenly looks like the better option...

Well if you think thats the way it works..I am afraid it is you who are naive!

How new system will work!

Idea was to stop what Wigan did which was take the hit the year after etc... you get deductions on the stop and also you have to sort it staright away or you'll get fined again and again rather than just the once!

Following on from my unbiased earlier viewpoint.

I still stand by the point of view that Leigh should not be given a dispension.

A lot of people on this board are making references to other dispensions.

My unbiased opinion on this is that the RFL have royally stitched up the heartland clubs in favour of the "expansion clubs".

Unfortunately Leigh have taken the brunt end of it.

First Celtic Crusaders, then Toulouse and to top it all Gateshead.

Whilst that does leave a bitter taste, the fact of the matter is Leigh have taken risks and signed contracts which they were extremely foolish and i believe arrogant to do.

This error by the Leigh management should not compromise the other teams in CC1 so there should be no dispensation, end of.

Really, at the end of the day..what harm will it make to the other clubs..we are going to win this league anyway..at least with a better team we will likely have better away support so more money for these clubs..

What it will do is give us a better chance of winning the NR Cup - and why shouldn't we be on a level playing field with other teams in the same competition? Why should, say, Dewsbury be allowed to play us in the cup with the ability to spend more money on players despite having less than half the fanbase? Answer me that one!

I also don't think it is at all fair to say that Leigh have been arrogant in signing..just very very unlucky - to be a hairs breadth away from staying up.

Put your argument to the Challenge Cup and Celtic & Salford and 3 times the cap of Widnes then?

DON'T GET RELEGATED... SPEND MONEY FROM SUPPORT EVERY SEASON!

That's all there is really not 'We have more fans' since when was cap LIMIT based on that>? I think 200k is fair enough! Why should Widnes be dragged down to 300k? etc etc etc etc etc

Erm yes..add the Widnes/SL example to the argument - thanks for helping out!

At the end of the day, the issue is why should a teams ability to spend be artificially limited when there is no threat of it going bust? To artifically level the playing field is the only answer..but then you go and make exceptions for the expansion teams!

I can see I am not going to convince you!

Never mind lad you have convinced me.

Like I said earlier,why should we be only allowed to spend 150k if we have more money than that??????

A level playing field

a level playing field that will field sub standard players playing in a state of the art ground and fans being charged top dollar to pay to watch sub standard players??? how does that work in developing the game???

If a club can attract sponsors willing to pay for better players only to be told no you can't how does benefit the game...please someone tell me how

Its like turning round to man city and saying you can only spend £30 million a year






Stuff the salary cap bring in the best we can ,the only reason they voted for this 150k cap is because the other chairman have no intention of developing there own clubs and its a easy way of keeping costs down AND THEY GET TO WERE A SUIT AND TIE WITH A CREST ON for a minimal return

Any club that get the chance to apply for super league needs to have a good financial base. How can a team sign the palyers to sell shirts and get bums on seats when restriced by the salary cap. If teams from the championship have any chance of getting and competing in super league they need to be allowed to grow. If clubs have money good for them. The salary cap was a OK idea when super league was avaliable by winning the grand final because teams were going sh*t or bust and when teams failed they were in trouble. Now there is no promotion teams will not run over there means for the sake of one season they all have long term plans now, so release teams to grow.

I dont know what all the fuss is about re salary cap its a blatant restrictment of rights and if someone takes the RL to a tribuneral
it will blow it out of the water end off.. Cant believe no SL club as tried it
OR HAVE THEY !!!!!!!!!! and the RL HAVE KEPT IT UNDER WRAPS !!!
INTERESTING !

The RFL own the game. Take them to court and you would be looking at getting booted out of any comp.
Simple really, Leigh (and I do feel sorry for their fans) spat their dummy out last July when they didn't get a licence......ergo.......if you call the people who run the game a disgrace...those same people won't be lining up to help you out.
What's the old saying about burning bridges

Well maybe if 21 of the 35 member clubs take them to court, they could completely destroy the game by kicking 21 clubs out. Then with a 21 club organisation well managed and marketed as opposed to a 14 club organisation........................who knows

seriously....nearly 9,000 posts and you BELIEVE THAT


Rupert Murdoch pays the wages, sells the dishes (advertising) and in reality, saved the game.
Yes, We and others have been given a leg up and yes, it probably isn't fair, but if you think for 1 minute that the C and C1 clubs could break away and make a go of it, you really are missing a sandwich from your picnic!

Oi party line tower



Tell me again how much money do you and us get out of sky







Keep sucking that booty they may let you back in again

But then again you seem a tad close to other clubs and the rlf can't have that

Is it though? It doesn't neccesairly restrict trade and movement just wages to an extent!

When we finally got a crack at Super League, what dispensation did we get then? none! we had but a matter of weeks to assemble a squad to compete in Super League and, by the time we had won promotion most of the available players had found clubs!
It used to irritate me when 'Super League' teams were relegated and received parachute payments. Not only did these 'fallen clubs' retain their squads, many of them actually improved them! Huddersfield, Castleford and Salford have been in Super League since the outset and, to hear Media pundits talk when these clubs are at the foot of the table, they make it sound like they are new to Super League! Correct me if i'm wrong, Huddersfield have spent one season out of SL, Castleford one season and, Salford two!
Widnes have also suffered this unfairness.
I'll not get on about Stadia etc, although, I'm wondering when Wakefields 'new ' Stadium is complete, many years ago their Chairman at the time, promised to build one to ensure they attained the SL criteria upon promotion!
Have they had a (quiet)dispensation

? please advise

Oh dear kirkhall you are speaking to much truth my friend



Over to the party line towers

Failed your economics "CSE" did you?

You also forgot that the London Broncos (as they were then) got even more help than they were already getting from the buffoons at Redhall. They were allowed to sign players that we were in the race for knowing that they were on the brink of going bust. When they did and couldn't pay wages the RFL did what. Sweet F A. Oh no they didn't, they got more help.

Ah dont know why we are getting worked up everyone outside the SL
know the RL is a dodgy organisation the SL clubs dont give a hoot about anyone apart from themselves they just want all the Murd dosh themselves
and pass peanuts down when the money from sky runs out the bizz will hit the fan and clubs at the top will all go bust and RL will be in a bigger mess than it is now.....

If you vote something in, how can you then sue?

Easy. We have double standards. We were too arrogant to ever believe it would affect us. Now that it has, we want the rules changing to suit us. What's wrong with that?

Passed me A level if that's what you mean!

Rugby Union and American sports also run a salary cap I am 100% sure if was ilegal then it would of been dealt with by now!

Spoken like a non-leyther or a crust muncher...........