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| Outcome will be [hopefully the officials will have to be retrained as it seems they did not do there job,can't see any other outcome or teams will be wanting replays for forward passes next
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| Quote ="haven4ever"i dont think the issue of 13 or 14 men on the pitch is the main issue here.
i think the 2 main issues are that
1. it appears duffy entered the field of play illegally(throwing his number on the floor instead of handing it to the 4th offical) and then provided the pass for robbies try .What the rule on this is i don't know the RFL may say he was an illegal player so the try should never have stood or they may say it was a technical error and fine the player.
2. the most contentious how can a player be red carded then allowed to be replaced by a sub again i don't know the rule but im told as the substitution was not completed correctly then it has to be reversed regardless of any cards
what ever happens i think most decent RL fans would admit if their team was on the receiving end of this shambles they would expect their club to appeal even if just to find out how it happened and what the rules are.
all this seem to have detracted from what was a very tough game in very tough conditions and both teams should be pleased with their efforts'"
No, I wouldn't expect my team to ask for a replay because a sub dropped his card on the floor as he replaced a player. In fact I would be embarrassed if they did.
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| But who says he dropped it, maybe the 4th official dropped it. Have you seen the video of the incident yet?
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| fred you need to read my post again .When i said i didnt know the law ,i meant the rfl rules on these type of incidents not the law about allegations
i made no allegations simply said that 13 or 14 men was not the issue
the facts are duffy was sent off for illegally entering the field of play and that was in the MC report
As you even say in your own report duffy was involved in robbies try so he influnced how the game went while on the field illegally they are facts
We are simply using our right of appeal not clutching at straws.If your honest if the circumstances were reversed leigh would do exactley the same.
For what its worth i dont think anything other than a fine for the player will come of this.Seen as all the other subs for haven and leigh went without a hitch then this one is either duffys fault or the 4th officals and i can't see the rfl blaming themselves.
i for one dont want a replay,if some one had offered me a BP AT 2.55Pm on sunday i would have grab their had off
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| Alan wrote:Oddly enough, something similar happened in our previous game against Featherstone. Andy Kain was waiting to come on, while Nanyn was kicking at goal. I guess Kain was standing about a foot inside the touchline. Suddenly Robert Hicks yellow carded him and allowed Fev to retain 13 men. It wasn't clear why Hicks crded him, but if itwas for encroaching, it was petty. However, Fev had a sub yellow carded, but were allowed to retain a full team. Granted the sub hadn't actually created a try, but still similar circumstances.
If he was on the field then they had 14 men on, perhaps we should appeal and ask for a re-match?
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Maybe it just felt like you were playing 14 but it was evened up by the ref lol
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"Fred, have you looked at the incident where the Leigh water carrier got sent off? Was it a stoppage or not? We could be looking at getting into trouble for that also...'"
TBH no ive not ive been too busy with the other 'incident' I'll try and have a lookm at it but at the time i thought we had three on I may be wrong, and we had been warned, thought TBH in those conditions it was rather pedantic of the officials NOT to allow more water on for thats all that Ruddi was doing as PR was doing the messages
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| Spoke to duffs lastnight, when I was on my Level 3 Course (cos we are proffesional and fully trained stewards, are you reading whitehaven?), and he (duffs), said it has been sorted, but didn't elaborate any further.
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| I doubt it has Dave as the compliance officer at RFL has only recieved my DVD's about half an hour ago
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| Do you think we will get a apology from the Haven fans or Haven at all? response --> sssssssssssssshhhhhhh [size=85(the sound of wind & tumble weeds)[/size
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| in a word no nothing to apologies for
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"You were all wrong were,nt you
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think you need to read my posts, and everything i said was right
13 or 14 wasn't the issues
duffy sent off for illegally entering the field of play
duffy played apart in the match winning try
still allowed to bring a sub on and play 13 men
haven within their rights to appeal
so which of the above were wrong
the duffy incident was looked at by the dis panel, the event will be reviewd by others to prevent the farce happening again which can only be good for the game
best of luck for the rest of the season
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| 13 or 14 was the issue thats what stokes complained about
duffy was sent off, but following the disciplinary that was clearly a refereeing error and shouldn't have been
So thats one and a half things wrong
The Duffy incident has been deemed not illegal. It also mentions 14 men for a couple of seconds. Therefore if duffs entry was not illegal there is no problem for playing a part in the winning try. Read the disciplinary report stupid. Also because of your appeal it looks like Duffys disciplinary was brought forward (should have been next week) to coincide with the match review panel. The farce was not caused by Duffy or Leigh, as Ged Stokes who caused the farce with his constant harassment of the official on the touchline.
It would also appear the stewarding and behaviour of said stewards is being investigated by the RFL. You got your bonus point, now you can go away and find a website to discuss this on....oh thats right the only ones left have about two posts per board, the main forum has been shut down
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| Quote ="haven4ever"think you need to read my posts, and everything i said was right
13 or 14 wasn't the issues
duffy sent off for illegally entering the field of play
duffy played apart in the match winning try
still allowed to bring a sub on and play 13 men
haven within their rights to appeal
so which of the above were wrong
the duffy incident was looked at by the dis panel, the event will be reviewd by others to prevent the farce happening again which can only be good for the game
best of luck for the rest of the season'"
TBH no one gives a toss about YOUR post it was the idiotic ramblings of Ged Stokes and HE DID complain there were 14 men on.
Whitehaven were wrong and Duffy had no charge to answer that is the fact.
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| Spoke to Rob Hicks today in the incident he ref'd he sin binned the sub for interference with the kicker.
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| You spoke to that prat(duckfeet)
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| So they have deemed sending off sufficient for Duffy for entering the field a couple of seconds before McConnell left the field. As someone else mentioned lets watch the CC and SL games and see if anything similar happens.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"So they have deemed sending off sufficient for Duffy for entering the field a couple of seconds before McConnell left the field. As someone else mentioned lets watch the CC and SL games and see if anything similar happens.'"
Thought it was 'no charge' Derek? There's a difference - SOS implies he was guilty of something, but punished sufficiently. To me, no charge means he didn't do anything wrong.
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| Took the phrase SOS from the Sporting Life report that has appeared this morning, the Disciplinary Report on the RFL just says NFA
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| No Charge on RFL website means no case to answer one would think.
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