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| Walker threw a punch but was not cited,would someone please explain why not.If it had been Hock or Acton they would have been looking at least 3/5 matches ban,or did Pelissier head butt Walkers hand
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Quote ="propforward 2338"Walker threw a punch but was not cited,would someone please explain why not.If it had been Hock or Acton they would have been looking at least 3/5 matches ban,or did Pelissier head butt Walkers hand'"
Walker was cited for a Grade A punching offence, carrying a punishment of 0-1 match. He possibly used an EGP to escape a ban.
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/dis ... #advSearch
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Quote ="propforward 2338"Walker threw a punch but was not cited,would someone please explain why not.If it had been Hock or Acton they would have been looking at least 3/5 matches ban,or did Pelissier head butt Walkers hand'"
Walker was cited for a Grade A punching offence, carrying a punishment of 0-1 match. He possibly used an EGP to escape a ban.
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/dis ... #advSearch
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| Quote ="Alan"I have to admit that I am not a fan of the kind of tackle that Jamie is being charged with. There is undoubtedly the potential for injury. Of course, you could argue that there is potential for injury in every single tackle in every single game - it's a very hard game.
What is a defending player supposed to do, when his team mates are attempting to tackle a player who won't go down? They are coached to bring that player down, just as the attacking player is coached to stay up! It's an extremely fine line, between the tackle being 'legal' (withing the RFL definition of the word) and 'illegal' (within that same definition) At the speed the game is being played, the tackler just hasn't got time to think of the best 'legal' way to effect that tackle. Also, a player who is on the pitch for say 60 minutes, is twice as likely to make an 'illegal' tackle, than one who is there for say 30 minutes. If Acton is told by his coaches, not to play as physically, his effectiveness is removed. He's a big, fit, mobile lad - those are his strengths and they have to be fully utilised.
Previously, Acton has infuriated me. Whilst recognising his abilities, he has ruined it all by the silly wind-up tactics he has used - like patting opponents on the head, and all too readily getting involved, where he shouldn't. This season, he is being done for incorrect technique - when, as I maintain, technique is a very fine line in a hard game, played at speed.
It's difficult to shy away from the opinion that he is being 'watched' in the disciplinary process. (FOUR matches for pushing an opponent last season!?) Three players have been cited for 'dangerous contact' in last week's SL games. That means that the other 201 players who participated, didn't effect any 'dangerous contact' at all. Frankly, within the RFL definitions of 'dangerous contact' I find that impossible to believe. Just how closely are members of the review panel watching every minute of each single game?
By all means, let's caution players about their technique - but let's do it to all of them, not just single out a handful of them.'"
We again see irregularity in certain areas of the game. I’ve seen Referees (more senior ones) this season call “held” as soon as momentum is stopped stood up with many fans and pundits calling it not tackled.
It is a thin line but we are not in a sport where we can throw the towel in to make the Referees decision for him/her. It’s down to the referee’s judgement.
Some in my eyes are basically calling it too late and the reason these citing’s come about. The more senior referees tend to call it early (rightly or wrongly) which eradicates situations as above and keeps the game flowing.
Most of these fast-tracked Referees need to go back to the classroom and learn the basic fundamentals of the game again. That way we cut out inconsistency in all departments.
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| 1 game ban for Acton
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| Disgusting.
The RFL are totally against Leigh.
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| Quote ="Peter Kay"Disgusting.
The RFL are totally against Leigh.'"
Hes really cleaned his game up this season now hes getting charged for nothing
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| I agree.
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| Quote ="Peter Kay"Disgusting.
The RFL are totally against Leigh.'"
I agree,They're are an incompetent corrupt joke.
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| Quote ="propforward 2338"Hes really cleaned his game up this season now hes getting charged for nothing'"
Spot on
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| And Brough only gets 2 match ban for TWO far worse challenges.
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| Most corrupt outfit in rugby league . Absolute bunch of morons that are making some idiotic decisions every week. At least make it less obvious that you have favourites. Acton gets man of the match then gets banned!! Joke the lot if ya !!
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| Quote ="Markypants"Most corrupt outfit in rugby league . Absolute bunch of morons that are making some idiotic decisions every week. At least make it less obvious that you have favourites. Acton gets man of the match then gets banned!! Joke the lot if ya !!'"
Think you need a lie down, the guy was awesome then got it wrong - not sure how you relate the 2
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| He earned the man of the match award but also earned his ban.
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| I thought the RFL were quite lenient with him. Could easily have been 2 games looking at the footage.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"I thought the RFL were quite lenient with him. Could easily have been 2 games looking at the footage.'"
Also very lenient with Danny Brough. Like I've said, there's a very fine line between what's 'legal' and what isn't . At pace, there's not much time to ensure getting it right. I'm still surprised so few players get charged!
I wouldn't suggest any bias by the Disciplinary - like you say, they've been lenient. I'd love to know how closely the review panel watch every minute of every game! Perhaps Acton and Brough need to become less physically 'obvious'!
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| I've said many times he gets unfair treatment from the RFL. He takes a lot of punishment too but just gets on with it! After the Salford match he had a real shiner on his cheek, he didn't get that from 'playing the ball' !!
I was annoyed at Saints to see Percival tackle Higson around the head, Higson looked to be 'knocked out' before hitting the ground and, subsequently released the ball. The Medics came on treated Adam and, the decision was? Knock on Saints won the scrum and scored from it I wonder what Jaimie would have got on the Pitch or, review?
Jaimie is a Future international, definitely, I just hope we offer him the deal to stay with us?
Can't wait to see Maria back and taking the ball in with Jaimie and Hock, that should lift the rest of team also!!
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| Quote ="kirkhall"I've said many times he gets unfair treatment from the RFL. He takes a lot of punishment too but just gets on with it! After the Salford match he had a real shiner on his cheek, he didn't get that from 'playing the ball' !!
I was annoyed at Saints to see Percival tackle Higson around the head, Higson looked to be 'knocked out' before hitting the ground and, subsequently released the ball. The Medics came on treated Adam and, the decision was? Knock on
Saints won the scrum and scored from it
I wonder what Jaimie would have got on the Pitch or, review?
Jaimie is a Future international, definitely, I just hope we offer him the deal to stay with us?
Can't wait to see Maria back and taking the ball in with Jaimie and Hock, that should lift the rest of team also!!'"
I don't get the "RFL have it in for us" that gets spouted. Every ban that he has got has been justified. I know it is difficult to take the rose tinted glasses of when it is our club, but we have to just dust ourselves down and get on with it. The majority of the negativity that surround the club emanates from fans. Remember, negativity breeds negativity. The more our fans spout it the more it will affect the players confidence. The coaching staff haven't created a siege mentality against the RFL the fans have. The coaches are trying to build the lads' confidence but it will be difficult when they are surrounded by all this negativity.
They are trying damned hard to improve Jamies discipline, but people blaming everyone but Jamie is making the coaches job harder.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"I don't get the "RFL have it in for us" that gets spouted. Every ban that he has got has been justified. I know it is difficult to take the rose tinted glasses of when it is our club, but we have to just dust ourselves down and get on with it. The majority of the negativity that surround the club emanates from fans. Remember, negativity breeds negativity. The more our fans spout it the more it will affect the players confidence. The coaching staff haven't created a siege mentality against the RFL the fans have. The coaches are trying to build the lads' confidence but it will be difficult when they are surrounded by all this negativity.
They are trying damned hard to improve Jamies discipline, but people blaming everyone but Jamie is making the coaches job harder.'"
Firstly, I wasn't referring to this current ban because not having attended or seen the match (through Holiday) I can't comment on this incident, well I could, but, I'd be like many on here who comment but haven't seen the incidents and don't go to the game! now that's negativity!!
Jaimie's Ban from the Salford game (in the eights) was wholly unjustified, [u four games [/ufor pushing an opponent in the back with your hands? Incident not seen by officials and fans, only the review panel!!
Gregg Mc only got two for pushing the Ref and, Widnes player Houston flattened Phil Bentham and got nothing!!
Also in the MPG HKR V Salford Rovers player Campese, whilst chasing a kick pushed Salford's 'Niall' ? in the back and got nothing! I could go with these comparisons forever however, that would be negative
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| Indeed it would negative. I'm glad you have seen the light. Come over to the positive corner, you'll be amazed how much it will improve your outlook on things.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"I thought the RFL were quite lenient with him. Could easily have been 2 games looking at the footage.'"
Could have been more than that..He got away with the first charge due too un- inclusive video evidence.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"I don't get the "RFL have it in for us" that gets spouted. Every ban that he has got has been justified. I know it is difficult to take the rose tinted glasses of when it is our club, but we have to just dust ourselves down and get on with it. The majority of the negativity that surround the club emanates from fans. Remember, negativity breeds negativity. The more our fans spout it the more it will affect the players confidence. The coaching staff haven't created a siege mentality against the RFL the fans have. The coaches are trying to build the lads' confidence but it will be difficult when they are surrounded by all this negativity.
They are trying damned hard to improve Jamies discipline, but people blaming everyone but Jamie is making the coaches job harder.'"
Evening C&W.
Of course it's all down to Jamie, in the end. And I believe he and the coaches are working darned hard with him, to get things right. I believe the disciplinary process, rather than any negativity on here, could knock a player's confidence, if he is being constantly 'referred', when he is trying his utmost to get it right. I reckon Jamie was hugely responsible for turning around what was rapidly becoming a lost cause on saturday, and still reckon he will become an England international. I will make a couple of points though:-
1. There is a very fine line, in an extremely physical game, played at great pace, between getting the tackle 'right' or 'wrong'. Jamie is a strong physical lad, who gives everything and, as such, is bound to get it wrong occasionally. The RFL Disciplinary has probably taken that on board and given him a lenient sentence.
2. My other point is about the 'review panel' who are supposed to be scrutinising every game and making referrals to the Disciplinary body. Considering how many SL players participate each weekend, I am frankly surprised at how few (including other Leigh players) are not accused of stepping over that line, between 'right' and 'wrong'. I am not shouting "bias", more "inconsistency".
I don't mean to appear negative. My glass is still half full, despite the current slump in form. I believe the players who lead us to those three victories, are more than capable of turning things around, if we can get them all back on the pitch.
Ah well, it should all be about opinions on here. Who knows which is right, eh?!
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"Indeed it would negative. I'm glad you have seen the light. Come over to the positive corner, you'll be amazed how much it will improve your outlook on things.
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Well I saw a lot of Light on holiday last week, SUNLIGHT! it was brilliant
Would you still say however, that [uall[/u Jaimie's Bans have been justified even though, I described the four match one against Salford and, other comparisons ?
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| Yes they were all justified. Each of the incidents you mentioned were different. The panel that reviews all charges are made up of an ex player, ex referee and a Lawyer hence the impartiality. To say they have it in for him is plain wrong.
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| No ex-referees on the panel, two ex-players and a chairman from the legal profession.
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