Not at all, and tbh that's the biggest misconception that Widnes and especially fans don't care about on the field. Yes we may talk up our academy and licence bid, who wouldn't?

But still get as disappointed as anyone else when we lose as we can see and tbh it's a bit ignorant when others ignore that. We are as dissapointed as any we haven't put together a big league challenge in the last 2/3 seasons it's not our fault we look for other positives though is it?

To be fair, no it's not and i've read much of the disappointment on your board over the last two years over the team's performances. I am aware that you're all not just sitting there waiting to be fed a waffer thin after eight mint like some fat assed Mr Creosote.

Widnes are obvoiusly an easy target for those who hold the RFL's licensing policy for what it really is.

Mate i am always upset when we do poor, and i wish we was in the Grand Final every year.I would love the salary cap to be much higher in the Championship, so we could dominate the league.

i think its very foolish to have a go at widnes when at the end of this month they will be looking forward to
super league.

yes i know we have made a great start but we cant muster 2000 fans and will be stuck in this league for 3 years at least
not playing our main rivals'
we are not in a position to have a go at widnes.
widnes deserve their impending good news because they did what we couldnt and have a town that still longs for top class rugby league .

i long for us to join them in the future and will never give up hope.

who cares that they lost to hunslet

I would agree with most of that but most of the animosity Championship fans feel is against franchising rather than Widnes.

We all know there are fans (and I know some of our own) that think franchising is the way for the game to go.My views are well known and time will tell who is right.

Nothing like a true post to prompt a debate though

The whole charade has been flawed since day one and it just got/goes worse year in and year out, by the time all the clubs who chase the golden fleece realise it's starangled the game as a whole it will be too late, as a sport we had a glorious chance to be a major force but missed the boat because of the greed of various boards of directors (both past and present).
They started the whole farce based on a system that was flawed and have made sure by their greed and ego's that it can't get any better.

Here's another farce from the RFL:

Re: Our match against the Bulls and the free entry for their season ticket holders.........

Possibly even worse for us , Catalans will bring how many ? , who pays their traveling expenses ? , quite possibly an actual loss for us

On the flip side not a similar effect to Widbes / Siddal & Halifax / Lock Lane & Leigh / Hull Dockers?

Reckon could sell your gaffe out Rich?

There is apparently a levy but what it will work out is that Fax will not make any money I just hope for their and all other Championship clubs they do not lose any.

probably the faithful half dozen that tag along on the team plane will make an appearance,can't envisage any more than that - probably a loss all round subsidised by the RFL as usual no doubt ! hopefully the home crowd will be boosted with a SL team in town ?

Leigh have tabled this as an agenda item at the next RFL meeting. (Council?) I can see that the RFL is desperately trying to reveive interest in the Challenge Cup - although you have to ask why interest needs to be created in the Game's so called 'flagship' competition. Unfortunately, they have added yet another nail in the coffin of Championship clubs.

I'm sure that, in recent years, when we drew Warrington at home, Wolves' s/t holders got in half price and Warrington made up the difference in the gate. That gate was then, rightly, split 50/50. Surely, the likes of 'Fax and Leigh (and most other Championship clubs in this draw, come to think of it!) do not have to share the gate, when their supporters have contributed nearly all of it?

So when we have it against Amateur's it's fine but when SL have it against us it's a disgrace?

No it isn't fine , but what they have done isn't the answer , funnily enough this is one of those ' club or sport ' conundrums again , all those ' sport ' fans should be quite happy to pay to watch any RL match , but they don't , in fact they don't even want to watch their club play against lower league opposition

Basically the Challenge Cup is dead as far as non SL clubs are concerned

Well given that the Toulouse match is not a big draw , well be lucky to draw more than we would playing Dewsbury in the NRC , if it was a heartland SL club , we might have got 3,000 from Leigh , as it is we won't make more than 2,000 IMO , so takings of 20 K less 3/4 grand to the LSV , then if we have to pay Toulouses travel costs , well have about £ 3,000 to split with them

That's not what I said. The same principle applies.

I know I'm just a fan but Leigh making a profit on this fixture wasn't something I really looked for when it was drawn, it was the fact its a cup match against a better team from a higher division, a chance to see how the team I support goes on and to see if maybe (just maybe) we can sneak a shock result.
Now thats not to say that AT has the same view ( I'd be surprised if he did), but as a fan the cup is about getting a bigger team and seeing how we go against them.

Having said all that, if Leigh can somehow sell this game (and it shouldn't be really hard - there is some SL quality in that team) then we could get our biggest gate of the season , if we can't sell this fixture to a RL town then we really need to sit back and think just how long the club can carry on.
Personally I'm hoping for a good game and a decent crowd, I'm glad we are playing Catalan rather than a Oldham or a Widnes or a Swinton (with due respect), its a club we've never played before and at the moment in time our team is on fire, I'm not saying lets not be concerned at the financial plight of our club but perhaps for once as fans we should just enjoy this game back the lads and hope we get more positives than negatives out of it.
You never know we might get London Skolars in the next round, now that would be a shock

well said that man - personally I would pay the entrance money just to watch Menzies play ! Trent Robinson is really getting the best out of him. Catalans are entertaining and you Leythers should turn out to watch the likes of Menzies,Greenshields,Farrar,Dureau,Hendo,Fakir,Ferriol & the like - if you're lucky you'll get to see Pelissier who is a class act waiting to be snapped up by one of the big boys IMO...

toa has retired due to injury you idiot. reject? was he a reject when he ended up at your club? a long and distinguished career deserves much more respect than your little bit of bile.
only in RL? what you mean actually meeting some criteria? yes, as it happens thats a fact. hate the game not the player.
and what exactly have leigh done in this franchise period then? besides finishing in a relegation spot.

i know it was probably best to say nothing. but i just came for a friendly and curious look on the leigh board and stumble upon bile like that. after a couple of years of aggressive, nasty and generally misinformed, hypocritical balls directed at my club and the widnes board in particular, these attitudes are wearing a bit thin.

Don't look then

=#FF0000Spent most of the season with us retired due to injury too.



=#4000FFKicked your booty at every opportunity.






Correct, bye bye

firstly he actually is retired due to injury. so i think your man should have more respect for a great servant of the game. and that didnt answer my question, which was rhetorical anyway.
widnes bashing is one thing, we get more than our fair share and are used more or less to the ill informed often nonesensical hate that gets thrown our way. but statements like the one that set me off are bang out of order.