Once again, lets be clear, you cannot tell somebody how to feel, only actions or a change of circumstances will do that, so then its a case of should this independant MB have rules against ' negativity ' ?

The other question is replying to this negativity in a ' negative ' way a good thing?

Many see non attendance as a ' black and white ' issue when in truth like the novel it is probably many shades of grey , so I'd say either humour or ignore is the best policy in dealing with it

All just my opinion of course

your obvious misunderstanding of the structure of a team does you no credit, the reason you gave is the reason why we do not have any pivotal or 'general' type players on dual contracts nor does our head coach want this type of player as yes it could disrupt our style of play.

'Feelings' are often brought about by a persons ignorance or refusal to understand a particular thing that is either down to lack of information (not relevant in this case as the clubs policy on dual contracts has been explained) or being sheer bloody minded by refusing to accept the explanation or by not understanding the stance of in this case Leigh Centurions on the subject, so why bring up the topic of 'independent message board' or 'negativity'? when neither appears relevant, a persons refusal to do anything is that persons business but by 'outing' that reason on a public forum 'asks' for it to be replied to, so should free speech also be banned on an independent or in fact any public forum because it may get a response from someone with a different viewpoint?

again all just my opinion and if anyone chooses not to accept it then my 'sig' says it all

Nobody's telling anyone what to think or how to feel Steve as far as i can see. I post on here as a fan myself and if I know someone is saying something which is factually incorrect and/or detrimental to the club I will exercise my right to correct them.

To me The Wigan Partnership was done out of nesesity by the previous BOD and down to lack of finance and resourses in our club at that time. I can't come out and say it will be scraped nor are all the inherited problems and debts are yet cleared but it will certainly be reviewed by the new BOM I will say that much.

While taking onboard all the critism constructive and non constructive Im personally not to intrested in anyone who's not attending at present I'm more focused on getting new people in that stadium going forward, once the non attendees see it really is changing and is new and exactly what we are trying to do hopefully they will come back no doubt will still critise but if they pay thier money and help us succeed in making the club the best it can be then so be it.


Andy

spot on.you get some complain when they hear nowt then you get moaners when someone keeps you up to date.
im happy andy comes on here and for one think its the way forward,keep us informed mate.
we are changing direction and its gonna take time but i for one think its finally going in the right direction.if the moaners dont like it just remember if it works out and in five years time we are where we want to be maybe you might stop the moaning.....over and out

Without doubt nobody can complain they dont now know why we are in this ' deal ' with Wigan, despite the original ' Waffle ' we were fed

So as I said ' Humour or ignore '

or educate?

Its too emotive a subject Fred, you can tell them till you are blue in the face , its like religeon or politics , there is evidence that huge lizards roamed the Earth millions of years ago and yet people believe in some mythical ' Being ' with no more evidence than a fairy story

Starbug are you seriously suggesting you have never seen a Pixie ?

Pixie without Dixie is unthinkable

though I always like Mr Jinks

, but my favourite was Huckleberry Hound .

I have no doubt you see them on a regular basis frank

See them?They are his Drinking Buddies



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getting'. Wigan don't send us players, they let us know which players are available to us. We're under no obligation to use any of them.

This is true.

Wigan in the week give Paul a list of players they aren't using that week we can pick any off that list. So it's Paul choice not Wigan and like last week he can pick none if you don't count Spencer .

No one older than 23 and a maximum of 4.

It is also a fact that until we hit our injury crisis we only ever used Tom Spencer.

Frank, are we in a partnership with Wigan?

Yes or no?

No

Fantastic news, or is this a hokey cokey partnership

In, out, in, out, shake it all about

The Superleague clubs scrapped their reserve sides because they thought it would save them money and they could use the Championship to give their players game time.

I thought it was a stupidly short sighted move which would harm the pro game and it has proved true.

Too many Championship clubs fear relegation and if you look at the teams in Champ 1 you will see why.

Too many Championship clubs have gone down the feeder club route. It will cost them in the long run.

Leigh have imposed strict conditions on our 'what I would call' an understanding with Wigan. Clubs sadly like Swinton have not.



We are where we are and I would have preferred that our understanding had not been made public because I knew what the reaction would be.

Leigh have too many so called supporters who have very stubborn views who can't see the wood for the trees.

We need to get out of this league to prosper. Had another 700 put up with our agreement for just one season we would do that.

Partnership no. Agreement with conditions which suit Leigh yes.

Murphy.... Warrington

Woods.... Bradford

Drummond.... Warrington.


You see even when we are the Challenge Cup holders or just been crowned Rugby League champions as we were at some stage when these lads were wearing the shirt, we will never be viewed to be as big as the likes of Leeds, Hull, Warrington et al.

We can strive to be as good as the best and we can definitely punch above our weight at times but it will always be a struggle for Leigh to keep hold of it's best players, even world class players as our history proves.

Frank, Leigh havent lost 700 fans because of the partnership/agreement with Wigan ,I'd say a hundred at most have that as a part of the reason they no longer attend

Leighs current low attendances are the result of the increasingly difficult financial and employment situation due to the recession ( shown by all RL and other sports attendances ) and their abject failure to market themselves for several years, especially since moving into the LSV, compounded by the league structural changes we have seen since then

I hope and believe that the future will be better for the club, and all will be invited to the party

We have lost fans to apathy, to continually play the same teams knowing that you can win every game all season and still not go up has driven fans away fron us and the game in general. No doubt about that.

The current economic climate is a factor also. I agree,

The fact we have a couple of loan players in from Wigan is just another tap room excuse along the lines of

'I am a passionate Leigh RLFC supporter but I have not been since we sold the training pitch to B&Q for £100 Billion, Where did all that cash go'

Feckin Bore off..........

You missed out the lack of marketing, everything else is beyond our control, so at least try to control what you can

You maybe right but so is Harold.

When I am back in Leigh I hear the same old same old about why folk don't go anymore then stare at their pint pots on match days and then ask you what the score was.