My criticisms are always constructive unless I am conversing with someone who isn't actually reading what I am typing.



I doubt there will be anything to criticise tomorrow, I hope not anyway.

Excellent post Glow.

I was talking about fans criticising the team, not each other.

An honour to be mentioned in such exalted company

I'm sorry I can't see were your getting 37 from in 3 consecutive games.I count 38 referrals in the last 12 games in total.

Don't think we had any referrals after the Bradford game in Feb until April

Those stats listed were totals for the season, for all clubs, 'atomic'.

I believe 'maurice' was suggesting that there would be other examples of 34 referrals in 3 consecutive games this season. The total referrals I quoted would make 'maurice's' suggestion impossible.

The 34 referrals were:- v Halifax - 13; v Wakefield - 13; v Featherstone - 8; and included the opposition.

Assumptions wrong again Alan, if you are motivated to find faults you will see faults when none are there is what I said and imo that's whats happening. Even the ones we are getting banned for are inconsistent, eg Morleys far worse than Armstrongs yet we get the ban, Emmitt went with a Batley player saying he didnt swear yet gets banned at the same time Moore was like a Tourettes sufferer and nothing.

This the Kirmond case after the incident with Kay ''Player reacts to opponent lashing out by making contact with opponent’s face with pushing motion. Sin Bin Sufficient'' - now that was not what I saw

well said glow young man. We all have 1 thing in common, we want the best for our great club. We all have different opinions, which is healthy, how boring would this MB and life be if we all agreed.

Inconsistency must be one of the biggest gripes for players and coaches. (and fans)

Without being at all "motivated to find faults", my statement of 34 referrals from our last three games is a FACT. Whatever inconsistencies/bias amongst officials, 34 is way too high for three games. Accepted that two of those games have been in the public glare of live TV - and hence, I believe, a reason for the high level of scrutiny. However, many supporters, in the admittedly genteel environs of the West Stand, have been grumbling about the attitude of certain of our players. The brawl in the Halifax game was, in my opinion, a disgrace to both teams.

Spot on, Very well put.

Your statement is incorrect,as you were stating a figure that includes the opposition FACT..If you would care to support your opinion by adding how many of the Leigh referrals there were and actually carried a charge, I would agree with your opinion (NOT)..But you are going all round the houses to make a point thats not there.FACT.

No, the statement was factually correct. The point I was making, was that we (along with Halifax, Wakefield and Featherstone) were involved in three games where there were 34 referrals to the Disciplinary. As explained, I was not making the statement that there were 34 Leigh players.

To me, the Wakefield game didn't seem that bad, as I've stated. I didn't see the Featherstone game, so can't comment on that, but, in my opinion, (and that of several others sitting near me) the Halifax game was a disgrace, irrespective of who started what.

Seventeen Leigh players were referred from those three matches, with three suspended - Armstrong, Acton and Haggerty, all from the Halifax game. Hock could become a fourth suspension, from the Featherstone game, if proven guilty.

Edit for accuracy. That clears it up. FACT.

Thanks for your assistance, reffy!



Let me be one of the first to state that our discipline was fine today.

Is that a fact?

Alan I thought Hock played well and kept his cool ,his fiercest critic on here Wolrab was even praising him during the game

,Jamie Acton still persists in tapping the opposition on the head ,I wish he would stop it.

No - just an opinion!

That's OK then.

Strong ref, put Haven on a team warning early and within a minute sent one to the bin. No issues at all after that. Well done Jamie Bloem.

Even so, I was very wary of expressing that opinion, just in case it was perceived as being remotely negative, in any shape or form.

Being an ex-player is an advantage.

Yes hock did play well today, long may it continue.

I'm more than happy to praise when its due. Thought reynolds was very good today, higson did well in centres also.

Possibly they all had an email from the RFL to cut the slow ruck out.