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| Quote ="salfordlad"
There are still only about 12 clubs playing RU in Great Britain who attract decent attendances.'"
True, but there aren't 12 in RL.
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| There aren't 6 in union
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| Quote ="salfordlad"Well I hope I am right that promotion and relegation will come back because without it RL is finished as in no time at all Sky will pull the plug.
Rugby fans in the M62 corridor will not turn up every week to watch line outs' kicks to touch' penalty kicks and drop goals and endless mauls plus an advantage rule that seems to go on forever.
When our sport did have promotion and relegation every clubs crowds where better.Since promotion and relegation why have the crowds in kick and clap ( AND payment to players was introduced) started to increase ? whilst RL crowds have declined
There are still only about 12 clubs playing RU in Great Britain who attract decent attendances.'"
It wont be all RU rules their game needs to open up and have more tries scored. As for the number of teams a 20 team league sounds a good base for a national game.
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Why the chuff would the rugby union want any of our teams?
They are making a shed full of money year after year
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Since several former RL players have gone into coaching RU, their clubs attitude to RL has changed and they would love to play SL's top teams.
Playing Wigan and co would make them a bigger shed of money, the only hold back I can see is their international game.
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| Quote ="glow"People in Castleford will be able to continue to watch Castleford RL they wouldn't make the cut.'"
Probably not, but I was in Glasgow at the time of writing so was thinking of a RL town on a similar cultural level.
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| I think you will find thaty RU crowds have dropped an awfull lot as well. BT Sport would be better for SL now.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"I think you will find thaty RU crowds have dropped an awfull lot as well. BT Sport would be better for SL now.'"
Their game needs to make changes, fans want to see tries.
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| Couple of related questions with everything going on.......
With all the recent signings we have made and the announcement of our assistant coach going full time etc, etc has this been financed by what we currently have and is affordable on last years budget or is it financed on the belief that the door to SL starts to open and P&R returns in the sporting sense ?
Just wondering if our club will be immediately ok and unaffected from the fall out if the SL clubs decide to shut themselves off from the rest of RL forever in chasing more greed ?
The other thing that is glaringly obvious is that any progressive championship/1 clubs need a voice, I'm hoping behind the scenes that unlike the RFL who are distracted by planning the World Cup that these club owners use this time to form a collective and start to put there view across more strongly - now is not a time to sit and wait.
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| Ask Starbug how he went on trying to get the Championship clubs to work together
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| I have a feeling the championship clubs are about to be shafted and must react accordingly if it materialises
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| Quote ="JENKY"Couple of related questions with everything going on.......
=#FF0000With all the recent signings we have made and the announcement of our assistant coach going full time etc, etc has this been financed by what we currently have and is affordable on last years budget or is it financed on the belief that the door to SL starts to open and P&R returns in the sporting sense ?
Just wondering if our club will be immediately ok and unaffected from the fall out if the SL clubs decide to shut themselves off from the rest of RL forever in chasing more greed ?
The other thing that is glaringly obvious is that any progressive championship/1 clubs need a voice, I'm hoping behind the scenes that unlike the RFL who are distracted by planning the World Cup that these club owners use this time to form a collective and start to put there view across more strongly - now is not a time to sit and wait.'"
In answer to your first question, the BOD is on record as saying they are committed to raising the additional funding to finance a bigger squad than last season. This was obviously with the proposed, and seemingly guaranteed, (!!) structural changes coming in. Whilst I should imagine they are still fully committed to raising the extra funds, (we've signed the players now!) I don't know what the point would be (for any Championship club) should the SL clubs decide to scupper the deal. (It's worth noting that the SL clubs have already voted THREE times, to reduce to 12 teams, and are now being 'asked' to vote for a fourth time on it!)
The Championship clubs have had their own forum recently, and were reportedly becoming quite bullish, but whether they still have that forum, I don't know.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Ask Starbug how he went on trying to get the Championship clubs to work together'"
5 years ago the time was ripe for the Championship clubs to start working together on building their own income streams, by now they would hopefully have been seeing the rewards to start to filter through, and would have given much needed strength and power to the clubs faced with what we currently have
Would they listen?
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| The players also voted to leave the vote on the restructuring till after the World Cup as well, they are not happy about playing the extra games.
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| I understand the Wigan Chairman wants to go back to straightforward promotion and relegation from the Championship instead of the muted Super Leagues 1 and 2.
Well if he has the backing of the majority of Super League Chairmen then that is what will happen.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"If Leigh have bought the players on a promise of future funding then it's a silly decision , should have waited for the decion to be ratified'"
I have refrained from posting on here since I joined the Board but feel this is too important to let it drift.
We have built next year's budget on existing funding levels (ie without any structural changes).
Hope this helps!
Michael Norris, FD
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"Thanks for putting me straight on that Michael'"
No worries Keith, it wasn't aimed at you particularly but yours was the best quote to pin it too!
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| Quote ="Toadstool"I have refrained from posting on here since I joined the Board but feel this is too important to let it drift.
We have built next year's budget on existing funding levels (ie without any structural changes).
Hope this helps!
Michael Norris, FD'"
Thanks Michael, bit of a relief that as currently the way the game is turning I was getting a tad nervous we'd be left 'holding the baby' so to speak as events elsewhere scupper our growth.
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| That is good news. I'm sure I'd heard Michael mention it before but glad to have it confirmed again.
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| According to skysports the players have also voted against the proposals.
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| Is that just the SL players? I see Michael Steele at Fax has ripped into Leneghan calling him self centred and selfish
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Is that just the SL players? I see Michael Steele at Fax has ripped into Leneghan calling him self centred and selfish'"
And I wonder if that will be 'held against' Mr. Steele?
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Is that just the SL players? I see Michael Steele at Fax has ripped into Leneghan calling him self centred and selfish'"
Superleague players
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| Why have the players voted?
I’m all for employee involvement but at the end of the day it’s the employer’s decision which direction he wants his business to go.
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| Ah but isn't it a players union. Unions call strikes.....so what.The RfL as a ruling body surely have a right to try and advance the sport. Yes I know, but one day they may get it right. ATEOTD if clubs are so bothered just show them where the door is. The RFL can just replace the leavers with other clubs and still have a SL.
We, the fans should be making our voices heard.
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