and we had no infrastructure behind his cash, his decision.

Opportunities and risks, evaluate learn and do better - 'If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got'. We have a 4 year crisis cycle built around bad management and ridiculous financial planning - lets grab this opportunity and change that.

The thing you quoted above is alright, however if a party were to get a stakehold in the club for their money , why cant all parties who commit money get that?
Surely If you say a community partership with min investment of £25000, were to get a stakholding then surely so should as LISA and the corporate club members for theirs?

I dont know why shouldn't/couldn't they get that? LISA may have 400 members to commit to the £25k, if they vote for it go for it - if the club dont want you as part of it then hold the money in the bank as thats what your members want to spend it on. Who says we should have one 'group' of passionate fans, I am sure if we had 4 groups each putting in the £25k every year together with 6 individual business/fans we would have a vibrant club run properly by capable people.

The long term solutions are to share the burden, get clear direction and unity behind a common goal. What any body gets or otherwise will depend on what happens next - that will be the key to our future success.

i dont know who to contact to pledge funds who can help me ?
Also i can print shirts with and all other manner of items ie cups and car window logos etc and get badges made.
i will only charge the cost of the goodsmaterials and the rest will go to the club.
obviousley they will be sold through the club shop and can be picked up there and paid for there if needed

sorry to mention fred parky knows who i am as he knows my sister who works for the club

are you car stickers bigger than ones the club sell? im intrested

do you have a website?

We have near as dammit, 2,000 committed fans at the moment. The more of those that can 'buy into' their club, the better. With the proper organisation/mobilisation of those who want to get involved, there is no reason why we can't come out of this as a MUCH STRONGER club.

I can see the 18's and 23's squads being binned as a result of this, anyone else fear this

I wonder how many of those 2000 turn up every week..i.e do we have 4,000 not quite as committed fans or 2,000 very committed fans? Obviously the answer is somewhere in between. Perhaps there are some of the 4,000 we can tap into as well - just because they can't/don't attend every week doesn't mean they would be happy to sit back and watch the club fold.

What we need though is real numbers being publicised so we can raise pledges against a target. Right now we have no official word that there IS even a problem, never mind how urgent it is or what the funding gap is. Once we have that it will be much easier to mobilise the troops..

In a sense, no - these squads will be the first team! Every penny has to be devoted to keeping the club afloat in the Championship, long term planning will once again have to be put on hold.

Do you not think AT was rebuilding the club from bottom to top and putting structures in place that would hold the club in good stead for the future?.I do.

i would say between 1800-2000 very dedicated! but the average has gone up this year so could be pushing 2000 to 2200ish

could we not arrange an event? if the club announce something i presume the usual lot will turn out

i can make anything for car windows and body work
i will get some made and put them in the club shop
all you need to do is give me an idea of what you want and the size

just a leigh coat of arms logo for a fiesta 07 plate (rear window)

i'll have a look what you have and just buy one

i will make some and send them to the club shop.
then put a new post on our forum

All dependent upon his 3-400k pa which isn't there anymore. ie carp structures because they didnt matter.

there was no structure, no one is saying a bad word about AT, but the proof is in the eating

Brilliant !! Just waiting on the re appearance of 'The Preacher' and we are not far short of the full set !!

No u forgot Steve brainy, Phil cafe, Keith Freda etc

They had me in stitches last time they appeared.

How about this for a different spin on millwards outburst,what if he realises he has been out done on the pitch and to deflect blame from him he raises the club is doom story?

How long as he been here and how many trophies?

Just a thought

How positive you are , I'd sack Basil for not winning last years Challenge Cup , he managed it at Saints

Well I go on probabilities when I do not know for sure.

When there are a couple of more scenarios I opt for the most obvious.

Fact. How good have we been since the Hunslet game ? How good were we before ? What does this coincide with ?

Our players and coach need to know we are behind them. I am.

I hope when we look back at this season we don't say it seems we peaked at sheffield and then fell away.

Big fortnight coming up against dewsbury.

Hopefully by the time the final comes around in blackpool we will be stronger on and off the pitch,fingers crossed