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| Quote ="maurice"
PR was a great player for us who retired early and left us rudderless (we have never replaced him) but continued to be employed by the club despite being no obvious job for him.
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More to life than RL Mo, Paul's shoulders were/are nackered and with 2 babies on the way he re-evaluated his life. Since then he's been 2nd in command so not sure where you say there was no obvious job. Apart from the loss to Gateshead at home (who subsequently beat Fax) Paul's defeats have come away from home which is what most teams do. I think we have 5 home games left which is the time to judge him with a team he never chose.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"More to life than RL Mo, Paul's shoulders were/are nackered and with 2 babies on the way he re-evaluated his life. Since then he's been 2nd in command so not sure where you say there was no obvious job. Apart from the loss to Gateshead at home (who subsequently beat Fax) Paul's defeats have come away from home which is what most teams do. I think we have 5 home games left which is the time to judge him with a team he never chose.'"
How many times have we heard that old chestnut in the last 3 or more years. A good coach makes the best of what he as got a la what Mr Millward did for us when he came. I can only see 3 winnable games, which actually may be enough, whether we can pick up bonus points in the others remains to be seen. But as I have said elsewhere it boils down to whether Batley or Gateshead can win one more game than us in the run in.
The results yesterday were not just shocks, they were either unfortunate shocks or convenient shocks depending on how much you love the RFL
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| you are wrong there Derek, Milward only started to do something AFTER he got his own players in, as did Terzis and Ste is right you cant make chicken soup out of chicken £ any REASONABLE person would acnowledge that.
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| Quote ="FredParky"you are wrong there Derek, Milward only started to do something AFTER he got his own players in, as did Terzis and Ste is right you cant make chicken soup out of chicken poop£ any REASONABLE person would acnowledge that.'" Only problem being Fred you dont get many REASONABLE people on here
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| Quote ="FredParky"you are wrong there Derek, Milward only started to do something AFTER he got his own players in, as did Terzis and Ste is right you cant make chicken soup out of chicken poop£ any REASONABLE person would acnowledge that.'"
It did always make me tickle when people stated Ian took the team of 98 to the top of 99. Whilst I'd never knock Basil in fact I'd roll the red carpet out for him if/when he returns he certainly didnt take the same 98 squad to the top in 99.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not really , hopefully it will have a positive effect on the fans rather than a negative one
The time for recriminations is when the season is over
The fight to stay up starts now'"
The fight to stay up should have started when we got outplayed by Gateshead, it didn't.
Its time for our directors /exec , players and coaching staff to come to the plate and really give it 150% , either that or come out and tell us the real truth as why Leigh are being outbid for players and outfought on the pitch by clubs such as Batley, Gateshead etc, etc.
Facts don't lie, we ARE going down if we carry on playing like this, a shocking run of results (whoever has been the coach) and I don't think anyone who follows Leigh could argue that we don't deserve to go down.
We are truelly awful on & off the pitch, its those things that MUST change immediately.
One thing that does need answering......
How does a "big" NL1 club fall behind just about everyone of its 'competitiors' in that league so quickly
The 'board' owe the fans that explanation at the very least.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"It did always make me tickle when people stated Ian took the team of 98 to the top of 99. Whilst I'd never knock Basil in fact I'd roll the red carpet out for him if/when he returns he certainly didnt take the same 98 squad to the top in 99.'"
Possibly,
I certainly don't remember Ian having as big a chequebook to spend as Tony Benson (for example).
Ian brought a feelgood factor to the club (on & off the pitch) and created a "team" spirit , fans & players (largely) believed in him and his record at Leigh showed him to be a class coach (the away win at Keighley being the turning point in Leighs history IMO, Hammered 1st half playing down the hill we won the 2nd half playing up it - Keighley then being a far better team than Leigh).
However Ian arrived a unknown and not as a ex player with Dad on "the board" so Pauls on a real hiding to nothing and will always be up against it in the way the (many) other unknown coaches we've had havn't been.
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| Quote ="Saintsnut"Yep
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| Quote ="JENKY"
One thing that does need answering......
How does a "big" NL1 club fall behind just about everyone of its 'competitiors' in that league so quickly
The 'board' owe the fans that explanation at the very least.'"
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Thats easy to answer ..the board are gutless and unwilling to take chances
on bringing decent players into the club because of not wanting to spend
unlike other clubs also they have brought in very poor players in key positions and even worse they have signed one of the worst on another contract for next season...
Too many young players in the team brought in far too early in a penny pinchin exercise in my opinion...
Good points CASTLE --NANYN
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| Naynn has done nothing since he signed,and Castle saying at he's only 23 cant do any longer than 10min max! doesn't say much for his fitness.
You moan that the have a team full of young lads at are not ready but when they have been playing well in the 21s you want them in the 1st team. Make your mind up.
The Teams not that young, watson, mado, stewart, donalon, nanynn, alstead, hobbo, smith, jock, armisted, their not that young!
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Thats easy to answer ..the board are gutless and unwilling to take chances
on bringing decent players into the club because of not wanting to spend
unlike other clubs also they have brought in very poor players in key positions and even worse they have signed one of the worst on another contract for next season...
Too many young players in the team brought in far too early in a penny pinchin exercise in my opinion...
Good points CASTLE --NANYN'"
I wouldnt be so hasty in saying we wont spend money, watch this space!
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"I wouldnt be so hasty in saying we wont spend money, watch this space!'"
This season what the deadline anyway
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"I didn't think Abram was a bad coach?
He was
Bad communicator
Bad man manager
Bad people skills
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Apart from that, he was quite a good coach remember winning trophies?
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| Quote ="Starbug"About right there I'd say'"
But aren't most managers generally like that?
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Thats easy to answer ..the board are gutless and unwilling to take chances
on bringing decent players into the club because of not wanting to spend
unlike other clubs also they have brought in very poor players in key positions and even worse they have signed one of the worst on another contract for next season...
Too many young players in the team brought in far too early in a penny pinchin exercise in my opinion...
Good points CASTLE --NANYN'"
Tell me Iain what part of SALARY CAP do you not understand?
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| Quote ="FredParky"Tell me Iain what part of SALARY CAP do you not understand?'"
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Dont use that owd line with me Fred SALARY CAP
How come Gateshead--Shefield, Barrow, Halifax, Widnes ect ect ect
all have salary cap but much better classs of player and in the case of
GATESHEAD n Sheffield they are still signing class players
THATS THE PART I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW GATESHEAD can keep on signing when there crowds are poor
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RL IS BENT I SAY BENT
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| Got to agree there the only thing is if these sides have gone sh*t or bust this season they can't continue this recruitment next so as long as we don't go down we'll be top of the tree next season simples!
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| Quote ="polly_lythe"Naynn has done nothing since he signed,and Castle saying at he's only 23 cant do any longer than 10min max! doesn't say much for his fitness.
You moan that the have a team full of young lads at are not ready but when they have been playing well in the 21s you want them in the 1st team. Make your mind up.
The Teams not that young, watson, mado, stewart, donalon, nanynn, alstead, hobbo, smith, jock, armisted, their not that young!'"
===============================================Watson played well so far player of the season MADO waste of a shirt
Stewart.waste of a shirt.... Donlan done nothing Nanyn ok
Alstead ok Smith playing in wrong position.. Jock played too much RL
needs a long rest.. Armi unfit... Hobbo nuts but a good player
Regarding playing well in the 21,s you have to get real we are playing second rate teams in the 21,s and to be honest there is only a couple of stand out players who i personally think are good enough to step up every now n again .......
This season we have recruited very poor brought in players in the backs without pace and forwards who are weak and not strong enough to turn players and break the line ect out of the present first team squad i think only 6 have played owt like thats not very good out of a squad of 20 odd
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"Got to agree there the only thing is if these sides have gone sh*t or bust this season they can't continue this recruitment next so as long as we don't go down [size=150we'll be top of the tree next season simples![/size
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While i would like to see Leigh do well, your miles behind on the recruitment and Millward is no longer familiar with this division. When he arrives he will have one hell of a tough job on his hands.
Second comings arent always great.
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| Quote ="JENKY"
One thing that does need answering......
How does a "big" NL1 club fall behind just about everyone of its 'competitiors' in that league so quickly
The 'board' owe the fans that explanation at the very least.'"
2006 should of been a great year for us, newly relegated from SL we had an outstanding opportunity present itself and TBF - IMO the club worked hard behind the scenes to make the most of it.
* Automatic promotion up for grabs,
* A surplus of SKY cash,
* A more more professional ethic adopted from the previous 12 months,
* A F/T Chief Exec
* The deadwood cleared from both the coaching and playing register,
* An excellent off season player recruitment,combining an exciting blend of youth, experience and class,
* A F/T squad assembled that was in many observers eyes one of the best two outside SL,
However the final last piece of the jigsaw, that vital all important cog was then IMO either overlooked or not recognised.
* A proven experienced coach who could execute it all
And we are now where we are but as I'm sure some would say, I suppose hindsight is a marvellous thing..
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| Quote ="leighonardo"2006 should of been a great year for us, newly relegated from SL we had an outstanding opportunity present itself and TBF - IMO the club worked hard behind the scenes to make the most of it.
* Automatic promotion up for grabs,
* A surplus of SKY cash,
* A more more professional ethic adopted from the previous 12 months,
* A F/T Chief Exec
* The deadwood cleared from both the coaching and playing register,
* An excellent off season player recruitment,combining an exciting blend of youth, experience and class,
* A F/T squad assembled that was in many observers eyes one of the best two outside SL,
However the final last piece of the jigsaw, that vital all important cog was then IMO either overlooked or not recognised.
* A proven experienced coach who could execute it all
And we are now where we are but as I'm sure some would say, I suppose hindsight is a marvellous thing..'"
But did a proven experienced coach apply for the job ?
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| Quote ="leighonardo"2006 should of been a great year for us, newly relegated from SL we had an outstanding opportunity present itself and TBF - IMO the club worked hard behind the scenes to make the most of it.
* Automatic promotion up for grabs,
* A surplus of SKY cash,
* A more more professional ethic adopted from the previous 12 months,
* A F/T Chief Exec
* The deadwood cleared from both the coaching and playing register,
* An excellent off season player recruitment,combining an exciting blend of youth, experience and class,
* A F/T squad assembled that was in many observers eyes one of the best two outside SL,
However the final last piece of the jigsaw, that vital all important cog was then IMO either overlooked or not recognised.
* A proven experienced coach who could execute it all
And we are now where we are but as I'm sure some would say, I suppose hindsight is a marvellous thing..'"
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| I'm not talking Tommy Martyn here either,
And anyway if we were going to down the road of a young, up & coming coach,one had just proven outstanding promise and shown great credentials by taking a relative unknown squad of players in France to within 80 mins of The 2005 Challenge Cup Final.
He then delivered SL status the following year IIRC
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| Quote ="leighonardo"I'm not talking Tommy Martyn here either,
And anyway if we were going to down the road of a young, up & coming coach,one had just proven outstanding promise and shown great credentials by taking a relative unknown squad of players in France to within 80 mins of The 2005 Challenge Cup Final.
He then delivered SL status the following year IIRC
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Mr Morgan
We spoke to him in 2005 when they played in the cup at Blackpool along with Tommy Gallagher , but a deal had already been done earlier in the year
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