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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Who made the judgement call to take Tom to fax, give him a week or so to settle and then when he did not pick up your playing methods - got rid of him half way through. What a sh*te coaching style.
TH is a nice kid and will give 100%. With kelly and Rowley building a bit of confidence and having more than 10 mins patience you may get the best out of the guy.
Good for him and good for you.'"
Shame that been a nice Guy doesnt win games then.
I made some pretty harsh comments when he was at Fax, And from what I gathered, some of the players didn't think he was good enough either. I remember a few years ago when he played for the Giants on Sky and was been touted as "one for the future". Don't think he'll ever realise that potential though that may be down to his shoulder problems.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Who made the judgement call to take Tom to fax, give him a week or so to settle and then when he did not pick up your playing methods - got rid of him half way through. What a sh*te coaching style.
TH is a nice kid and will give 100%. With kelly and Rowley building a bit of confidence and having more than 10 mins patience you may get the best out of the guy.
Good for him and good for you.'"
The lads just not good enough. Hes clutching at straws staying at the Giants. Couple of years down the line he will be lucky to have a champ team. Just the way it is.
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| Quote ="Brew"Shame that been a nice Guy doesnt win games then.
I made some pretty harsh comments when he was at Fax, And from what I gathered, some of the players didn't think he was good enough either. I remember a few years ago when he played for the Giants on Sky and was been touted as "one for the future". Don't think he'll ever realise that potential though that may be down to his shoulder problems.
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I saw your cheap comments about Tom.
Nor does being a bad guy necessarily win / lose games. But he is a nice guy and can clearly conduct himself with a lot more dignity than you can muster.
It was your coaches who totally mismanaged his loan.
Good luck to him and I am sure that even if it does not work out the leigh fans will not be so full of bile.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"The lads just not good enough. Hes clutching at straws staying at the Giants. Couple of years down the line he will be lucky to have a champ team. Just the way it is.'"
I have not said he is definitely good enough.
However I did say the fax coaches botched the whole process. Nothing compared with last weks c*ck up versus widnes, but still a poor do.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"I have not said he is definitely good enough.
However I did say the fax coaches botched the whole process. Nothing compared with last weks c*ck up versus widnes, but still a poor do.'"
If you get your facts straight you will remember that he was on a months loan. We sent him back after a month and three days. He simply wasn't good enough. Batley had him last year and they decided the same. Get over it.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"I have not said he is definitely good enough.
However I did say the fax coaches botched the whole process. Nothing compared with last weks c*ck up versus widnes, but still a poor do.'"
If I recall 'Fax won every game when he was on loan (playing or not) so i'd say Calland did a pretty good job! Heemingway has Never been up to standard an only sticked around at Hudds as he was there only Home grown player at the time!
You can't blame 'Fax coach because Hemmingway didn't impress him FFS why what did he do wrong? If tommy is such a good player why aint he in Hudds side? Why didn't Batley snap him up etc etc.
Good on the lad at Leigh by all means and hope it works out for him in end! But having a pop at other teams coaches just becuase they didn't rate him is ludicris!
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Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"If you get your facts straight you will remember that he was on a months loan. We sent him back after a month and three days. He simply wasn't good enough. Batley had him last year and they decided the same. Get over it.'"
You are wrong. Take a look here :
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/halifax ... 5324036.jp
Mid May to June 2nd is not a month and 3 days
Nothing to get over, other than laughing at your difficulty with weeks and months
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You are wrong. Take a look here :
www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/halifax ... 5324036.jp
Mid May to June 2nd is not a month and 3 days
Nothing to get over, other than laughing at your difficulty with weeks and months
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| Quote ="J20"If I recall 'Fax won every game when he was on loan (playing or not) so i'd say Calland did a pretty good job! Heemingway has Never been up to standard an only sticked around at Hudds as he was there only Home grown player at the time!
You can't blame 'Fax coach because Hemmingway didn't impress him FFS why what did he do wrong? If tommy is such a good player why aint he in Hudds side? Why didn't Batley snap him up etc etc.
Good on the lad at Leigh by all means and hope it works out for him in end! But having a pop at other teams coaches just becuase they didn't rate him is ludicris!'"
Try not to advertise your ignorance. There were a several other home growns around - but I am sure you prefer your fiction.
Why wouldn't Tom get in our side? Non of your team would get in the Giants side - wakey up its not 1999!
Calland took him - I assume he watched him beforehand? - and then cut things short after a couple of weeks. What a twonk.
i have not said Tom is some top player. That so many fax fans queue up to bag him is pathetic. Jeez anyone woud think you did not bottle it versus widnes last week or fluff it at Gateshead. ho hum.
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| I thought it was a sound debut from Tom today - he worked pretty well with Watto.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Try not to advertise your ignorance. There were a several other home growns around - but I am sure you prefer your fiction.
Why wouldn't Tom get in our side? Non of your team would get in the Giants side - wakey up its not 1999!
Calland took him - I assume he watched him beforehand? - and then cut things short after a couple of weeks. What a twonk.
i have not said Tom is some top player. That so many fax fans queue up to bag him is pathetic. Jeez anyone woud think you did not bottle it versus widnes last week or fluff it at Gateshead. ho hum.'"
Are you his dad?
Theres better players playing amateur, these things happen, get over it and move on. Nice lad though. I heard we took him as a favour to Baloo as it was mentioned that he may do a job for us. We offerered to have a look at him and sent him back when it became clear he wasnt good enough.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Are you his dad?
Theres better players playing amateur, these things happen, get over it and move on. Nice lad though. I heard we took him as a favour to Baloo as it was mentioned that he may do a job for us. We offerered to have a look at him and sent him back when it became clear he wasnt good enough.'"
No, I am not his dad (pathetic question).
Nothing to get over sweety. Did you hear it was done as a favour to Baloo? And you believed it!!
Poor fax fans they want it both ways. They rubbish Tom yet want to pretend he was not watched, recruited, paid and utlised by their coaches
I have said he is a nice guy and hope he gets a fair crack. The procession of pompous fax fans coming on here to bag him is ridiculous - almost as ridiculous as going down 32-0 after 40 mins in gateshead.
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| Let's all give the lad a chance, eh? One thing's for sure - he should get a couple of chances, against 'Fax, to prove some of their fans wrong!
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| I hope Tom goes well for you. I was pleased when I heard we had taken him on loan but was disappointed with what I saw. He plays a much more methodical style and sticks to a game plan. And as anyone who watches Fax play will know we do not play like that. Its usually off the cuff, play as you see it.
The decision to bring him in is probably one which wasn't thought out fully my Matt Calland and Martin Hall and they probably regret it now. We only had 2 fixtures in the month he was with us so had little chance to prove himself. The 2 games he played in (Sheff at home & Dons away) the whole team was poor and disjointed so he never stood a chance.
His days at Huddersfield are numbered and if he goes well for you then he will probably sign for next season too.
Good luck to him.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"I saw your cheap comments about Tom.
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He wasn't good enough, generally if you loan in a SL player in this league you expect them to be better than what you have or to bring something different, at Halifax he was neither.
The fact he didn't do well at Batley says a lot really.
You like to go around bigging Tom Hemingway up, fair play, someone obviously thought he showed a lot of promise when they took him on at the Giants, but seen as though he's been sent out on loan to 3 National League/Championship clubs, and was offered to a number of Clubs at the end of last season, whoever saw that promise obviously isnt there any more and the current coaching set up obviously don't see much of a future for him at Huddersfield.
Good Luck to him at Leigh, hope he has a shocker on Friday though
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| Quote ="Brew"He wasn't good enough, generally if you loan in a SL player in this league you expect them to be better than what you have or to bring something different, at Halifax he was neither.
The fact he didn't do well at Batley says a lot really.
You like to go around bigging Tom Hemingway up, fair play, someone obviously thought he showed a lot of promise when they took him on at the Giants, but seen as though he's been sent out on loan to 3 National League/Championship clubs, and was offered to a number of Clubs at the end of last season, whoever saw that promise obviously isnt there any more and the current coaching set up obviously don't see much of a future for him at Huddersfield.
Good Luck to him at Leigh, hope he has a shocker on Friday though'"
Feel free to spew your bile re Tom - you obviously can't help yourself.
The suggestion I go around bigging him up is a lie. Lying about the views of other posters is about your measure.
To see how an adult - who does not think TH worked out at Fax - comments see the post of Standidge.
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With good reason.
It didnt work out, hes not up to scratch, maybe it will work out at Leigh for him. Some players just dont `make it` and im not sure what world you are living in but in all likelyhood he is going to be one of them. Have you honestly seen anything that suggests differently? For me another Tim Hartley, one game wonder.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"With good reason.
It didnt work out, hes not up to scratch, maybe it will work out at Leigh for him. Some players just dont `make it` and im not sure what world you are living in but in all likelyhood he is going to be one of them. Have you honestly seen anything that suggests differently? For me another Tim Hartley, one game wonder.'"
Yes, you are gullible
How pathetic that fax fans have to bag the guy so much and so often. Fax numpties like to pretend i am bigging Tom up. Look how many Fax posts there are having a go at a guy on a Leigh thread for a hudds player. what a pathetic bunch - bar Standidge - they are.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"Yes, you are gullible
How pathetic that fax fans have to bag the guy so much and so often. Fax numpties like to pretend i am bigging Tom up. Look how many Fax posts there are having a go at a guy on a Leigh thread for a hudds player. what a pathetic bunch - bar Standidge - they are.'"
Geez get over it. Its all relevant, he goes on loan to Leigh having a few weeks ago being on loan at Fax. People are going to comment. I couldnt care less if you are bigging Tom up or not im just giving an honest opinion on the lad.
I was hoping you would make a comment about seeing something different in him that Fax or Batley fans didnt see. Yet instead of saying, well hes only young, or hes been outstanding for the seconds, or anything half resembling a rational retort you just come back with a bunch of poop.
With every post you make it seems the lad gets bagged more so just to add that im looking forward to seeing him play against Siddal in a few seasons time in a conference game. (please note that was tongue in cheek.)
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Geez get over it. Its all relevant, he goes on loan to Leigh having a few weeks ago being on loan at Fax. People are going to comment. I couldnt care less if you are bigging Tom up or not im just giving an honest opinion on the lad.
I was hoping you would make a comment about seeing something different in him that Fax or Batley fans didnt see. Yet instead of saying, well hes only young, or hes been outstanding for the seconds, or anything half resembling a rational retort you just come back with a bunch of poop.
With every post you make it seems the lad gets bagged more so just to add that im looking forward to seeing him play against Siddal in a few seasons time in a conference game.
(please note that was tongue in cheek.)
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You really find it difficult when someone disagrees with you don't you son? You are obviously hard of thinking. i have said what i think about TH. A pompous group of fax supporters are falling over themselves to bag him. Do keep it up boys...show how bitter and dim you are.
Lucky TH has moved on or he would be blamed for fax bottling it versus a poor Widnes team. Or he would cop it for losing 32-0 in 40 mins versus Gateshead. (i'm only being tongue in cheek about you bottling a major game )
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"You really find it difficult when someone disagrees with you don't you son? You are obviously hard of thinking. i have said what i think about TH. A pompous group of fax supporters are falling over themselves to bag him. Do keep it up boys...show how bitter and dim you are.
Lucky TH has moved on or he would be blamed for fax bottling it versus a poor Widnes team. Or he would cop it for losing 32-0 in 40 mins versus Gateshead. (i'm only being tongue in cheek about you bottling a major game
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Why are we being bitter and dim saying how bad TH was for us? It was plain for everyone to see that he simply wasnt good enough. Im sorry if this winds you up, which judging from your posts, it obviously does. The more you go on about it the more people are going to give you their honest opinions on him.
Also whats this, about your 4th attempt to get a bite about the Gateshead game? Hows that working out for you. You might be better posting that on the Fax board you might manage a bite but after watching Fax for 25 years its all water off a ducks back to me.
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