It's £16 to sit in the West, £14 to stand with the ruffians in the North, I believe.

I think the NRC is definitely better off for the re-organised group stages, but I think the damage might have already been done with dead rubber games of previous years.

The more crowds we get at this stage of the season below the break even figure, the tighter the margins will become - 1,000+ down today will mean having to attract 1,000+ more people to another game, just to even out.

No one is doubting the concerns but being bothered about a 'nothing' games atendance AFTER the event has happened is like being bothered about last weeks snow, very nice but pointless as theres nothing that can be done about it now, the trouble with a lot on here is that they are bothered about yesterday and not about tomorrow, learn digest and move forward, whats gone has gone, too many 'shudders' and not enough 'movers', (not (unfortunately) that anyone on here can influence things at all).

As for season ticket sales I'm sorry but historically Leigh people have never bought them in great quantity, even sales after 81/82 were less than 1000 (as relayed to me by a board member at that time).
Unfortunately The NR cup has never captured the attention of the RL public many just seeing it as an exended pre-season, an attitude that I for one don't share as for one winning it gets you 'in the pot' for promotion at the next licence farce (you can have 4K at every game but winning 'nowt' gets you 'nowt').

we have had nothing games before but still had a lot more than 1375.

perhaps i am disappointed because i thought the new stadium would bring back a lot of lost fans.
early doors i know but the initial signs are not encouraging.

still say we got season ticket policy wrong, the offer was simply not attractive , we have not sold the team and stadium in any shape or form.
that is the job of the club not the fans.
i am a supporter and that is what i do. i buy my season ticket, my shirt , my half time draws and my lifeline.

what do people think we would have sold(season tickets) if we had dropped them to £100.

Are you sure about that, I thought it was the GF appearances that counted and not the Northern Rail cup final appearances

Didn't say 'apperance' Derek I said WINNING it, if you can find the criteria anywhere Im 99.9999% sure thats what it says.

I actually thought of going to look for the criteria, but then I remembered criteria and the RFL means its more likely to be in (the) Dicks head than on paper somewhere.

well cant argue im taking bets on how many times it will change between now and 2011 to allow Touluse and Gateshead time to fit it.

You're right, it's a win in the Northern Rail Cup or an appearance in the Grand Final that counts towards the licence application.

Well I think 3000 for an NRC game which is hardly a must win situation is sadly optomistic bearing in mind the number of Haven fans likely to travel.

Yesterday was never going to get the less committed to go. When we reach the knock out stages and the league games will be a better indication of our potential regarding attendances.

I,d go if it was £20 a game but I know not everyone would and quite frankly I thought season tickets were very reasonably priced given the facilities we now have. But I also know that some fans think it preferable to pay on a game basis. Up to them of course.

Yesterday our team played rugby which entertained. Long may it continue and to be frank we haven,t had many matches were we have been entertained since Turk left. Its not just the opposition sometimes its about getting a reputation for being an enjoyable money well spent couple of hours.

And that I am optomistic about given our current set up. Just hope todays news from Widnes doesn,t upset the applecart.

if season tickets were reasonably priced we would have sold more.

we didnt even reach the first hurdle for discount

At 2pm yesterday I was sat at home looking out into the cold grey sky, wondering whether to bother or not (and I have a season ticket).

So I can understand those who only go to half the games no turning up and paying £14 to see a team who would struggle to give Easts a game.

Thankfully I went and really enjoyed it.

Personally, I dont think a tenner a game (or whatever it works out at) is bad value.

Make it £100 and its a nigh on 30% cut; would we get 30% more folk in who wouldnt be going anyway? I dont think we would to be honest.

well never know until we try

Well I left two pieces of 'anatomy' on the gantry yesterday, like I say its the best view but 'gawd it were cowd' so can fully understand that statement if I hadn't had to go I may have thought twice, especially seating at least if your standing you can 'jiggle abawt a bit' to get warm(ish).

Yes, 1,375 is disappointing, yet with the exception of Widnes v Oldham, it was the best in the round. So, it's a worry for all Championship teams - except Gateshead, who are apparently raving at their 1,200 'bumper gate' - and if that's all they can achieve, by giving tickets away, then how the heck can they keep signing NRL quality players?! I would suggest that supporters at all Championship clubs are not taken with the format of the NR Cup - I'm certainly not. OK, so they've changed the 'group' format, but it still seems such a contrived way of deciding on who qualifies for a knock-out cup. We now have the RFL saying who should get their postponed games played by this mid-week, and who doesn't need to (Swinton, for example!! and London Skolars, who can play their postponed game two weeks after the group stage finishes!)

I would much rather watch 'league' games and, if that means increasing the number of teams in the Championship, or increasing the number of games against each team, so be it!

I would suggest that 75% haven't got a clue what the format is

I think the cup comp holds little interest for most until the final, and even then its not much more than a derby match in terms of interest.

For me, the season doesnt start until nigh on Easter, we then play a couple of home during the sunny months, then its up to somewhere Siberian for a play off game, before spending 5 months whinging about the squad, ticket prices, and the RFL.

I thought my article in the programme, summarised the format, succinctly, clearly, and comprehensively. Mind you, I just might not understand it....!!

You can see that, I can see that, countless others appear to be able to see that. So why can't the RFL see that?!

Trouble is those who want 2 pay nothing contribute nothing. I have posted this b4 u value nothing you can get for nothing.

It would involve restructuring the league(s) format otherwise.

Given the current cup format, increasing the division to 14-16 teams (and the s##tstorm that would bring), or playing (say) Whitehaven 4 times in the league, I'm not sure what I'd prefer.

Neither. Clubs won't want a reduction in games, but a bigger division one would lead to the quality being hugely diluted (think NFP here). And we'll be seeing more than enough of our divisional rivals over the next three years as it is



No ideal solution but, once people get the jist of the current format and the fact that it actually is a bit tricker to qualify (lose a couple of games and you're in trouble) and it might catch on.

I'd probably like to increase the size of the league, but that would be grossly unfair on supporters of 5 Championship One sides - unless you suddenly introduce another half dozen 'development' teams. They are currently talking of a development officer in Jamaica - now there's an away trip!! I bet there'd be no problem enticing twenty superannuated Aussies to a club there!

They can see it , but they dont believe it , because it is a ' vibrant ' competition , in the same way as the Co-op Championships are more ' vibrant ' than the Co-op NL's because of the inclusion of a French team

When Saints played there first freindly against Widnes they were charging £17 now considering LSV is 1000% better than KR, how could they justify that?????