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| A totally focussed ref will never be intimated (sic).
New young refs taking their first steps are hardly going to be totally focussed are they?
If you think abuse thrown at young refs on a Sunday morning isn’t a problem, you should go and have a look.
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| Quote ="reffy"Refs pick up names in play and don’t forget?
Let’s think about that, 34 kids in the game and the ref will hear all the names and remember them?'"
You miss the point. Still stuck in your stubborn way. Disipline starts at junior level. Refs don’t use names. So why should they be used by a ref at senior level?
If it’s right at senior level, it must be ok at junior level.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"I am replying to the post about referee abuse and talking about a referee being placed under undue pressure on the night, due to said comments, A.'"
Of course H. Yet nothing done to counteract that. You don’t win a battle after the war is over.
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| Quote ="Canoeman"Refs using first names is a bad idea, very, very bad idea...should stop it in League ASAP!'"
Thaler goes even further, nicknames like "Kez"!
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| Quote ="atomic"You miss the point. Still stuck in your stubborn way. Disipline starts at junior level. Refs don’t use names. So why should they be used by a ref at senior level?
If it’s right at senior level, it must be ok at junior level.'"
No, it is you missing the point, the thread wandered onto players names an I joined in
My comments were about referees not coming through the ranks because of the unpunished abuse they get thrown at them by Junior coaches and parents.
That abuse is fact and it is disgusting so if you are happy with it then fine.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"What about coaches, such as McDermott choosing to use a pre match conferences to switch spectators focus on to the referee performance rather than the Quarter Final match itself. His comments certainly placed the referee under extra scrutiny, including from myself more than I would ever be inclined to do so previously. I think it should be outlawed and any head coach referring to how a game should be officiated pre match, during or post match should be landed with a disrepute charge and fined heavily.
Referees and the game deserve better.'"
Brian McDermott is an odious and ignorant person and this comes across in his interviews! Daryl Powell too can be very ignorant and regards to Kendall, Powell had wasn't too kind about him following the Cas defeat to Saints!
The Cas fans gave Kendall plenty stick too so, its not just Leigh fans! Talking of fans abusing Referees who can forget the girl from Wakefield at the LSV clearly shouting abuse and gesticulating from the perimeter wall in the South Stand ? She' a legend any club would be proud of
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Dawson will be looking at a long ban, no doubt about that.
I accept that the try scored was 'Illegal' and that he was frustrated by an evening of tough calls from Kendall following Brian McDermotts inexcusable pre match comments on the refereeing required last night but there is no condoning that. None.'"
What will Kendall receive Harold? Whilst I do not condone foul and abusive language to an official, do you think when Kendall watches a re-run he may think Dawson had a point ? after all Dawson was right, he was impeded and prevented from making a tackle!
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| Dawson had a point, he made a mess of making it.
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| Quote ="reffy"Dawson had a point, he made a mess of making it.'"
Absolutely, and he needed to remember the game was already lost convincingly. I could perhaps have understood him a little, if we were leading 22-20 at the time and then lost because of it. I could.
The RFL will take him to the cleaners for this alleged accusation, despite a clear error from Kendall.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"[url=https://ibb.co/niPTv8[/url'"
Wonder why leuluai is not up for his calculated cannon ball tackle Westwood or do Wigan players not have to appear
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Absolutely, and he needed to remember the game was already lost convincingly. I could perhaps have understood him a little, if we were leading 22-20 at the time and then lost because of it. I could.
The RFL will take him to the cleaners for this alleged accusation, despite a clear error from Kendall.'"
Whilst agreeing that he should have kept his mouth shut I think it is admirable that Matty was giving everything to prevent them scoring in the last minute of a lost cause. That's the spirit we need.
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| The grade E says it all.
If we are Toronto.... No case to answer! lol
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| Quote ="Snowy"The grade E says it all.
If we are Toronto.... No case to answer! lol'"
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| Quote ="atomic"
I never had a problem with the abuse the ref was getting and he didn’t. A totally focused ref will never be intimated.
That’s the decision in life they take and become qualified to do.'"
This comment says a lot about your character of a person. You think verbally abusing people is fine, I wonder how you’d feel about that if you or members of your family were regularly subjected to verbal abuse.
People signing up to be referee’s are not signing up to take a constant stream of verbal abuse. Many will give up refereeing or not even bother in the first place because of that, this is something the game can’t afford to happen.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"This comment says a lot about your character of a person. You think verbally abusing people is fine, I wonder how you’d feel about that if you or members of your family were regularly subjected to verbal abuse.
People signing up to be referee’s are not signing up to take a constant stream of verbal abuse. Many will give up refereeing or not even bother in the first place because of that, this is something the game can’t afford to happen.'"
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| The grade E on both seems over the top. The tackle was aggressive but there was no intent with Matautia. Dawson's commitment overflowed but again a Grafe E. Could have massive implications for the team, not sure why we bother with the challenge cup wish we could take a bye like Toulouse!
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Absolutely, and he needed to remember the game was already lost convincingly. I could perhaps have understood him a little, if we were leading 22-20 at the time and then lost because of it. I could.
The RFL will take him to the cleaners for this alleged accusation, =#FF0000despite a clear error from Kendall.'"
Didn't the referee refuse the advice of the TJ, to have a look at the obstruction? He certainly used the VR for all our tries!
That said, there's no excuse for the outburst from Dawson. Presumably the difference between Dawson's offence and Lussick's zero match penalty (at Warrington) is that Dawson was 'questioning the integrity of the official', while Lussick was using 'foul and abusive language' towards the match official. You will note that there is no reference to 'foul and abusive language' in the charge against Dawson. I guess that type of language must be ok then?
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| So all club s fans sing the ref is a or is that just Leigh too !!!
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| It is an issue with all clubs in both the professional and amateur game. However from what I have seen first hand, the worst fans for foul language and verbal abuse towards match officials are Leigh and Hull.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"It is an issue with all clubs in both the professional and amateur game. However from what I have seen first hand, the worst fans for foul language and verbal abuse towards match officials are Leigh and Hull.'"
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"This comment says a lot about your character of a person. You think verbally abusing people is fine, I wonder how you’d feel about that if you or members of your family were regularly subjected to verbal abuse.
=#FF0000People signing up to be referee’s are not signing up to take a constant stream of verbal abuse. Many will give up refereeing or not even bother in the first place because of that, this is something the game can’t afford to happen.'"
That's the way I would see it too. However, I chatted to a former referee, with Super League experience a few months ago. (he's packed in) He said he could handle the abuse from fans of either, or both sides, but what he couldn't handle was the 'abuse' from his 'line management' at Red Hall. Hopefully things have changed since then, with the recent review. Now things have to change, on the pitch - and that's why I believe the disciplinary process has got it right with Matty Dawson.
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| Quote ="Alan"That's the way I would see it too. However, I chatted to a former referee, with Super League experience a few months ago. (he's packed in) He said he could handle the abuse from fans of either, or both sides, but what he couldn't handle was the 'abuse' from his 'line management' at Red Hall. Hopefully things have changed since then, with the recent review. Now things have to change, on the pitch - and that's why I believe the disciplinary process has got it right with Matty Dawson.'"
The refs switch between using rules of VR refs to in-goal refs without the VR, to nothing only their own decision and then trial another version at Summer Bash.
Possibly if they had a stable standard to start with rather than thinking what match I’m reffing, they may stand a chance..
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| Quote ="atomic"The refs switch between using rules of VR refs to in-goal refs without the VR, to nothing only their own decision and then trial another version at Summer Bash.
Possibly if they had a stable standard to start with rather than thinking what match I’m reffing, they may stand a chance..'"
Confusing, eh?! I'm beginning to feel sorry for them!
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| Quote ="Alan" He said he could handle the abuse from fans of either, or both sides, '"
If both sides were slagging me off, I may have been having a bad game but there was no inconsistency.
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