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| Quote ="glow"Agreed.
No ones saying they aren't issues, but they need addressing to those who are responsible.
By all means have Club and/or LSV representatives down occasionally, but by doing it all the time, it can dilute what to me should be LISA's main objectives,increasing membership, fund raising ideas, increasing participation at events, where the money raised are being spent etc.
Just out of interest how much of the meeting time is spent listening to the 'visitors' and how much on LISA issues?'"
Its really nothing to do with anyone else but.....#
most of the meeting actually Mr Thomas and Mr Millward were there orginally to Thank all these who walked and everything else LISA, the Coperate Club, Fund Rasing Club etc to for the club.
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| LISA also handed the club a cheque for £2K as a donation (nothing to do with the walk).
Arthur And 'Basil' also commented on the great effort not only by LISA but by the corporate club, lottery members agents etc on not only doing the special things (like the walk) but for their everyday efforts.
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| Quote ="glow"Agreed.
No ones saying they aren't issues, but they need addressing to those who are responsible.
By all means have Club and/or LSV representatives down occasionally, but by doing it all the time, it can dilute what to me should be LISA's main objectives,increasing membership, fund raising ideas, increasing participation at events, where the money raised are being spent etc.
Just out of interest how much of the meeting time is spent listening to the 'visitors' and how much on LISA issues?'"
Forever Reds (our version of LISA) has meetings split into sections - part for 'business', part for Q&A with players/coaches, then usually a quiz to finish off.
Not saying it's the way is should be done at LISA meetings, but perhaps it's a way of keeping all parties happy whilst ensuring that LISA's core purpose doesn't get forgotten?
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"
Its really nothing to do with anyone else but.....#
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Euphemism for "mind your own business"
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| I'm never ever going to have a go at LISA and what they do, but I think you underestimate what the fans actually think of you. Maybe that's the reason they ask LISA to raise the issues rather than go to the clubs as all you will get from the club is the same old 'thankyou for your e-mail, yadda yadda yadda, go away, thanks.' But LISA actually care about the club and the fans and in the meetings you speak to, and wait for it.....'real people! humans who can reply with words rather than a hollow e-mail.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I'm never ever going to have a go at LISA and what they do, but I think you underestimate what the fans actually think of you. Maybe that's the reason they ask LISA to raise the issues rather than go to the clubs as all you will get from the club is the same old 'thankyou for your e-mail, yadda yadda yadda, go away, thanks.' But LISA actually care about the club and the fans and in the meetings you speak to, and wait for it.....'real people! humans who can reply with words rather than a hollow e-mail.'"
totally agree , LISA is the voice of the fans, when you email the club they arent put on the spot wereas when people ask questions they cant really ignore it.
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| thats the beauty about LISA meetings having a club rep there it doesn't always have to be basil or a player Allan Rowley and directors have appeared in the past and as these days LISA meetings are open to non members for free then fans have no excuse to go along and ask questions these questions can also be written down and handed to the LISA chairman to ask, but personally (and I know I do it) I dont think any person oher than a LISA member should be able to ask the questions thats one 'perk' about being a member of the organisation.
And LISA business is also discussed at the meetings when there is anything to discuss this week CC's Poker comp was discussed, a quiz has been tried in the past but like everything else it always falls on Lynda to organise it so its no wonder that part has stopped.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I'm never ever going to have a go at LISA and what they do, but I think you underestimate what the fans actually think of you. Maybe that's the reason they ask LISA to raise the issues rather than go to the clubs as all you will get from the club is the same old 'thankyou for your e-mail, yadda yadda yadda, go away, thanks.' But LISA actually care about the club and the fans and in the meetings you speak to, and wait for it.....'real people! humans who can reply with words rather than a hollow e-mail.'"
No ones having a go, and I fully understand that on occasions 'visitors' should attend, if fact this one was probably one of those occasions but as an outsider it appears that the visitor appearance has become more important than taking LISA forward.
It's alright discussing the issues with 'real people' provided they are the ones responsible for the issue, I don't think AT or IM were the ones telling the Cheerleaders to keep off the pitch.
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| I know you wouldn't have a go mate. And the cheerleaders issue highlights what's wrong if you ask me. Just that little bit of negativity is like a cancer through the town. It's worse for the club than the performance on sunday. Before games and at half time, that pitch should have cheerleaders and kids playing rugby all over the shop and those kids should be treated as well as the VIPs at the game.
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| Quote ="glow"No ones having a go, and I fully understand that on occasions 'visitors' should attend, if fact this one was probably one of those occasions but as an outsider it appears that the visitor appearance has become more important than taking LISA forward.
It's alright discussing the issues with 'real people' provided they are the ones responsible for the issue, =#FF0000I don't think AT or IM were the ones telling the Cheerleaders to keep off the pitch.'"
No but they do represent the organisation that asked them to attend , as for what happened , ' Dave ' is going to tell us , hopefully
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| Quote ="Starbug"No but they do represent the organisation that asked them to attend , as for what happened , ' Dave ' is going to tell us , hopefully'"
I don't think it would be a smart move for Dave to adopt the role of LSV "spokesman" its fact that the LSV management team "monitor" this board. In the past stewards have been disciplined for using this board for freedom of speech. Its not fair to blame the stewards, the instructions their given and the manner in which they carry them out is simply passed down from the LSV Managment (who i personally believe couldn't run a bath)
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| Well LISA should change it's name to LISPFRA ( Leigh Independant
Supporters Player Fund Raising Association) because it's misleading some of it's members now.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Well LISA should change it's name to LISPFRA ( Leigh Independant
Supporters Player Fund Raising Association) because it's misleading some of it's members now.'"
Or perhaps LISA should have a Fund-Raising Committee? and specific meetings identified as having a focus on fund raising??
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| Quote ="wbk666"you wanted to ask about stewards at a lisa meeting.. WTF has THAT got to do with LISA?'"
Who wanted to ask about stewarding at a LISA meeting?? However I do recall Arthur Thomas relaying a situation about an unfortunate supporter who collapsed at the match and club representitives calling for the club Doctor who by chance was smack bang in vicinity of the area !! A decision which allegedly contravined LSV procedures
I mean come on, WTF has that got to do with LISA??
TBF though I did have a burning question for Arthur, a real beef of mine about people who are still gaining admittance to matches for free but then I reminded myself that it was a LISA meeting and therefore hardly the time and place....
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| Quote ="glow"Free forum I'll spout whatever I like.'"
It certainly is a free forum and I agree with most of what your saying. LISA meetings should predominantly be about raising money. Fund raising Idea's were aired and discussed between members the other night long after Ian and Arthur had departed including an excellent one that suggested an incremental £10k per annum could be raised,if fully supported.
This is what LISA meetings should be all about no question but as I have previously stated unfortunately work and family commitments dictate I can not offer anything other to LISA over and above my relatively small financial contribution.
The other thing to bear in mind is that LISA = Lynda (almost) entirely in essence. That's it unfortunately. She can not do it single handly...
As for the meeting 'Visitors'. I do agree that a small Q&A session may lessen LISA's true focus to some.TBH I am not particually bothred about any Q&A session. I do feel however that a club rep should also show up to collect a bi monthly donation from an 'independant' organisation that has raised a substantial amount of money over time. It can be anyone from Arthur Thomas, Dave Bradshaw, Phil Coffey, Keith Freer, Allan Rowley, Paul Rowley etc etc it does not matter who.
No more than one LISA meeting per annum each. IMO hardly an unreasonable request given what is offered over to Leigh in return.
There you go, that is just me also spouting my view.
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| Well said. It will mean I can stay in Salford more entertaining the locals about being a true gentleman and explaining the finer rules of etiquette and decent conversation when in polite society.
More importantly it will help our chairperson too.
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| Great point leighonardo.
Does anyone know if anyone from the club actually reads these forums?
By the way, lynda you are a legend and a lot of leythers think so too.
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| Course they do which is why the players hate me.
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| Quote ="reffy"Euphemism for "mind your own business"'"
Missed this yesterday,
Strange how no-body says that when I'm sponsoring a walker, bungee jump, or a bike ride.
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| Quote ="leighonardo"It certainly is a free forum and I agree with most of what your saying. LISA meetings should predominantly be about raising money. Fund raising Idea's were aired and discussed between members the other night long after Ian and Arthur had departed including an excellent one that suggested an incremental £10k per annum could be raised,if fully supported.
This is what LISA meetings should be all about no question but as I have previously stated unfortunately work and family commitments dictate I can not offer anything other to LISA over and above my relatively small financial contribution.
The other thing to bear in mind is that LISA = Lynda (almost) entirely in essence. That's it unfortunately. She can not do it single handly...
As for the meeting 'Visitors'. I do agree that a small Q&A session may lessen LISA's true focus to some.TBH I am not particually bothred about any Q&A session. I do feel however that a club rep should also show up to collect a bi monthly donation from an 'independant' organisation that has raised a substantial amount of money over time. It can be anyone from Arthur Thomas, Dave Bradshaw, Phil Coffey, Keith Freer, Allan Rowley, Paul Rowley etc etc it does not matter who.
No more than one LISA meeting per annum each. IMO hardly an unreasonable request given what is offered over to Leigh in return.
There you go, that is just me also spouting my view.'"
That's more or less what I've been trying to say, but some just get all defensive instead of reading what's written.
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| You're bang on Glow.
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| Quote ="leighonardo"
TBF though I did have a burning question for Arthur, a real beef of mine about people who are still gaining admittance to matches for free but then I reminded myself that it was a LISA meeting and therefore hardly the time and place....'"
i'd have thought Mr Bradshaw is your man to speak to about that
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