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| Quote ="frankb"Well Basil's comments on GMR last night have told me two things.
First he cares about this club and second this club is in serious financial trouble.
I have been asking a few questions this morning about the Consortium waiting in the wings.
We have to find out the funding gap for this season between what the Consortium are prepared to offer on a monthly basis and the actual cost of funding our club.
Whatever the shortfall is we fans will have to find the money to bridge it. Now not everyone can contribute and I realise that
We have to act fast or this season will be our last and the players wages MUST be paid.I therefore pledge £80 a month and have asked Maurice to get in touch with the Consortium to get this ball rolling.
Anyone else who can afford to I recommend you PM Maurice. This is urgent and this post is deadly serious.'"
Frank will the remaining board members give this infomation out?.
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| It's hardly supprising that the players minds were not on the field last night then. I don't how much or for how long I can contribute.
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| I have no idea John. All I know is the club are struggling to pay the players wages for next month.
This thread is not intended to cause trouble it is to make people aware of our situation and waiting around for someone else to do something will not help.
Anyone who can afford to help PM Maurice. We need to act fast.
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| First of all well done frank. However why don't you contact the corporate club. I am sure the club would put you in touch. I am just wondering what any of this has to do with maurice
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| Look people can sign up to £80 a month to LISA the form says how much per month you want to pay, so sign up to LISA or the coperate Club whichever it makes no difference, we dont have time to set up anything else, lets use what we have already in place. Ive a big box full of from s here, so who wants to join.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"First of all well done frank. However why don't you contact the corporate club. I am sure the club would put you in touch. I am just wondering what any of this has to do with maurice'"
He is already in touch with them. I am not a buisness person I am a fan who like a lot on here are passionate about our club.
We are struggling to pay the players wages this is urgent.
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| Just tell me whats wrong with uping your payment to LISA Frank
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| It`s not my Club but I wish you all the best and Lynda has a point everything that LISA makes goes directly to the Club and the Club are already in communications with LISA the avenue is already there . If time is of the esscence it seems only sensible to let LISA handle it .
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| Just an enquiry, but [uIF[/u there are issues with players being paid, are the LISA sponsored players wages guarenteed and seperate from the clubs accounts or has the money already been lumped in with the club's funds?
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Just tell me whats wrong with uping your payment to LISA Frank'"
Because it needs something fast effective and new. It nmeeds buisness people with fresh new ideas LISA is great and should continue to do what it does but no buisness people with funds will be willing to fund the club via a supports club.
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| Why not?
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| Quote ="Brad Fittler Fan Club"Just an enquiry, but [uIF[/u there are issues with players being paid, are the LISA sponsored players wages guarenteed and seperate from the clubs accounts or has the money already been lumped in with the club's funds?'"
The player s all have been paid .
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Why not?'"
I see where he is coming from Lynda.
The corporate club is where the "big" payments from business people will go. If you are investing large amounts of money, you will want a say in how that is spent. The corporate club gives you more access to how that is spent, whereas the way LISA is set up means that however large or small your contribution is, it gets pooled together to pay players contracts. Not that that is a bad thing as most of the working class fans who contribute, want it that way.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"The player s all have been paid .'"
Lynda, could LISA pay the players wages, if we had enough members?
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| I shall always be a member of LISA.
We need substantial investment from the Consortium and they have identified a shortfall that needs to be bridged. The only way to bridge it is from another backer or people like me.
Let me put it this way could we at LISA pay the players next month if we had to ? And what about the following months.
This is a serious issue and needs sorting sooner rather than later and by sooner I mean before we play our next game.
I am not looking to upset anyone I want a quick solution and one that guarantees our clubs survival.
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| Quote ="frankb"I shall always be a member of LISA.
We need substantial investment from the Consortium and they have identified a shortfall that needs to be bridged. The only way to bridge it is from another backer or people like me.
Let me put it this way could we at LISA pay the players next month if we had to ? And what about the following months.
This is a serious issue and needs sorting sooner rather than later and by sooner I mean before we play our next game.
I am not looking to upset anyone I want a quick solution and one that guarantees our clubs survival.'"
We know its serious and we know your not trying to upset people but
how much is that short fall?.
Does the consortium have the right to ask for money off people without that information being in the public domain?.
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| Firstly thanks for your support Frank, but let me clarify my position here. I am not party to discussions taking place with the club, I have been asked if the fans could generate income to share the burden if this consortium are able to progress - I have assured them we will do whatever it takes to support our clubs future existence. I am not party to the details of the clubs financial position, but the word of people I trust is that it is very serious. AT's bankroll these last years is for all to see at Company House, it aint rocket science to realise our running costs and income leave a big gap.
If anyone is able to commit amounts to the fund should it be required then by all means PM me, this needs to be a 3 year commitment and not a one off, I hope smallish one offs , £5 a months etc will be collected via something like the 'save Hilton Park scheme' of a few years ago - LISA could be great for this imho.
The strength of our great club is the passion of its fans - we can make a difference when united and if I can help do that then I would be a proud man.
This isnt a game anymore its a battle for survival and a partneship between fans and business will secure our future.
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| How the hell can a club like Leigh end up like this?
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| were do the current directors stand in all this?.
Do they stay or do they go?
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| May I thank all those who have pledged financially and those who will support in other ways - Leythers are the salt of the earth when it comes to times like this, we will do it !!!
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"How the hell can a club like Leigh end up like this?'"
Well we are at the LSV. The costs of staging a home game are quite staggering.
Now why are those costs so staggering ? Well you could ask the many people employed by Wigan Council to "run" the LSV so successfully.
Should I ever be elected Prime Minister then I could sort it. I would also ensure that on matchdays the only place where alcohol could be purchased in the Leigh and district area would be at the LSV thus guaranteeing the 4000 average we need to be self sufficient.
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| Quote ="frankb"Well we are at the LSV. The costs of staging a home game are quite staggering.
Now why are those costs so staggering ? Well you could ask the many people employed by Wigan Council to "run" the LSV so successfully.
Should I ever be elected Prime Minister then I could sort it. I would also ensure that on matchdays the only place where alcohol could be purchased in the Leigh and district area would be at the LSV thus guaranteeing the 4000 average we need to be self sufficient.'"
Leigh has an MP who claims to support sport in the town. He holds surgeries at his constituancy offices every Saturday morning. Everyone has a democratic right to speak to their MP one to one at these surgeries. Now if a load of Leigh Supporters turned up to see him and demanded that he does something about the LSV situation he can not ignore them.
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| Would be a start and is a good idea.
We need fans involvement. Just waiting for something to happen is not going to get us anywhere.
Fans need to act fast. We need money pledges by either sending PM's to Maurice or folk joining LISA.
This is urgent.Please do not sit on your hands today anyone who can afford to PM Maurice.
Lets get our club on a roll again.
We have a week to turn this around we can do it we are Leythers.
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| Frank - thank you very much for this post it is exactly what was needed. I hinted in a recent post that I felt Maurice's idea of a supporters trust was needed.
This takes nothing away whatsoever from LISA which needs to focus on accumulating the multitude of smaller donations that people can afford. We need a tier above that which focuses on those who are prepared to commit to a larger sum of money over a longer period. I am "in" and will PM Maurice immediately.
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| Frank, well done for starting this off. I've made my pledge for three years. Not a fortune by any means, but I've also been 'pledging' three days per week, of my time, for all home matches. It all helps.
Meanwhile, like Frank and Maurice, I implore anyone who can make a commitment, to do so. Obviously, not everyone can make a financial commitment - we all realise that - but maybe some time could be pledged, that could save the club some cost?
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