Very true Bongser , and of late I must have lost around 8lbs in weight , and I’m not as fast as I used to be.

Unfortunately not heard that one , but hoping this one Shines out for us

Jeez theres going to a lot of Leythers surprised in 2023. Relegation/just staying up? Look at the spine of the team.. Zak, Lockie, Edwin and JA, supplemented with the likes of Amone and Leutele all 6 are top 4 SL players. Yes we have a few wild cards in the squad but im looking forward to see if Lammy can earth a diamond in Wildie, Davis, Gannon etc..

To top all that we are a club with no debt, no government loans, cap money to spend (and will spend it) and now an overseas spot up for grabs. Theres not a chance we will be in the bottom 4 of Super League. Current squad will push for top 6 and the squad will only get better as the season progresses.

No debt, are you sure - do directors loans not count

Difficult for me to grasp where this squad stands, some definite quality in there but deffo missing serious grunt, we only have one “big” prop and from what I saw last season he has a lot to prove

Also seems to be a small squad in terms of numbers, expected more to have been added by now, but it worked for us last season so let’s see how it pans out

Is anyone else concerned about our super experienced wing pairing?
Josh Charnley - 297 games 248 tries
Tom Briscoe - 357 games 183 tries

Somehow this seems to be a weaker pairing than Fergy and Inu. I am hoping experience trumps speed.

Inu did state he didn't think he was up to another superleague stint presuming he he was listening to his body , as for fergy we could have lost him mid way through the season which would have had more of disruption so I suppose we are fortunate to have Charnley and brisco to come in don't think many other teams would have able to do the same . Little rumour going about Jared w Hargreaves would he be the difference to the pack were all saying is needed ?

a directors loan causes difficulty if he/she wants it back and forces club into liquidation to claim a fraction back which will never happen.... id be more worried if we had a million pound of government debt that we had to start paying back but we dont... more clubs next year will spend less on players because they will have to cut their cloth accordingly meanwhile come May we will be cherry picking the best of the best from the rest because we will have a growing fan base, brand with increased commercial revenue and no debt...

As for props Tom Amone will be one of the best in the league, Rob Mulhern will add good punch and there is sizeable back up in davis and big ben behind them... that said i totally agree a couple of stand out signings in that department will add real quality to us and help us achieve play offs.. what nobody can account for is injuries which like any season will be crucial..

If we don't add another couple of big forwards and a class outside back to our small squad, you can forget any top half table finish as injuries and suspensions will no doubt hit in. Re Charnley and Briscoe - lots of welcome experience but both way past their best. Will Briscoe's heart be in it or is he just glad to get another seasons pay cheque. I can see him having another long layoff with injury. Best 17 will give anyone a game but the squad is too weak. Re Big Ben I think he proved himself last season and he was a standout player for Fiji in World Cup. I'm sure Lam and Co have this covered and further signings will come in.

11th. !!!

....and your tip for 12th, Snowy? Whoever it is, it's to be hoped that they're not insulated by IMG's nonsense.

I know you were asking Snowy (and I’m confident he knows the game better than me), but i thought I would throw in my 2 cents. I just don’t see Wakey doing what they have so often done before, that being not come 12th. I actually have huge respect for their resilience as a club, but this may be a season too far for them.
(Happy New Year B&B)

HNY 2U2 VL. A month and two days to go. Can't wait!

Bolton won three-baht, Utd beat City, Wiggin dropped two (MORE) points, Celtic won and both sets of Scousers lost. What's more, Bongser is half seas over with tomorrow fallow. A decent day on the whole but RL needs to return if life is to have real meaning

What’s with the coded message Bongser, and the round ball, it’s the oval ball that matters , I can’t wait for the coming season , hopefully add a couple of players yet , I have faith in Derek and Lammy but I do think we will struggle this season and will just avoid the drop , I feel a 1st game win will help us , I’m predicting 11th spot .

A spine of Hardaker, Lam, Ipape, Asiata coached by Lammy doesn't finish anywhere near the bottom... cant believe people predict 11th... come on Charlie and Snowy have the faith

I do have faith Ste, but someone has to finish bottom , I’m sure Wakey fans don’t think they will finish bottom ,or HKR fans but someone has to .
Yeah as a spine the players you name are quality , add to them a couple of others , but some of our fringe players are very inexperienced ,some weren’t good enough last season for the championship ,anything is possible ,Ste you are a betting man as indeed I am ,I think Constitution Hill will win the Champion Hurdle , but it’s possible he might not ,Wakey might surprise a few folk as might HKR , I just think it’s a difficult season ahead .

it defo wont be easy mate but look at the other squads and check their numbers 14 upwards.... all elements of risk i actually think we have more experience than some after numbers 13.... outside of st helens who has a better spine than us? exciting times and there wont be many other clubs bar us with cash to spend...

Although I agree about Clubs not having cash to spend or vacant overseas places , we only have one overseas spot vacant ,then it’s a case of where the other players are going to be signed from , hopefully we will have a bit of luck with injuries ,I think a good start is vital to our season .

injuries are key for everybody mate, theres always fall outs, unrest etc there be plenty available throughout 2023

I will be honest, i think it will be the most open SL ever. Not many points will separate the bottom 6, but i see Wakey not doing the great escape this time round. Pity, as it is only now they are finally upgrading Belle View.

We just need to stay up and consolidate. 8 wins should do this and our Home form needs to be spot on. There will be some right silly scorelines !!

A lot of time ,effort ,and money has gone into the rebrand and plans to help Leigh stay up this time , I truly hope it doesn’t fall on Stoney ground .
I have faith , and don’t think we will go down , but I do think we will struggle,,yeah we have some quality players , but we have some just number makers , let’s hope other become available as the season progresses.

Quote ="Teh Grauniad" The BBC has found Gary Lineker in breach of the broadcaster’s own impartiality guidelines after he tweeted about the Conservative party taking money from Russian donors. The Match of the Day presenter made the comment in February while responding to the then-foreign secretary, Liz Truss. She had said English football teams should not play in the Champions League final then to be held in Russia, due to the invasion of Ukraine. Lineker quote-tweeted Truss’s demand with the observation: “And her party will hand back their donations from Russian donors?” '" Charles (Happy New Year, hope you are well?), Bongser only mentions the man with the "spherical" balls (didn't see that infamous instalment of MOTD so can't say for sure ) because he noticed today that The Beeb has (as long ago as October '22) posted a Super League table for '23: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-leagu ... ague/table As you will notice, every teams performance stats are at zero. If the placings were based on alphabetical order, by this soul's reckoning, Leigh would be in 7th - but they are placed 8th. Random? Not with Saints top and Wigan in the play-offs! Mind you, Wakey are there too! Auntie should summon Dave Woods back from 'is 'ols to explain this and hopefully categorically deny that IMG have already deemed it thus.

Quote ="Teh Grauniad" The BBC has found Gary Lineker in breach of the broadcaster’s own impartiality guidelines after he tweeted about the Conservative party taking money from Russian donors. The Match of the Day presenter made the comment in February while responding to the then-foreign secretary, Liz Truss. She had said English football teams should not play in the Champions League final then to be held in Russia, due to the invasion of Ukraine. Lineker quote-tweeted Truss’s demand with the observation: “And her party will hand back their donations from Russian donors?” '" Charles (Happy New Year, hope you are well?), Bongser only mentions the man with the "spherical" balls (didn't see that infamous instalment of MOTD so can't say for sure ) because he noticed today that The Beeb has (as long ago as October '22) posted a Super League table for '23: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-leagu ... ague/table As you will notice, every teams performance stats are at zero. If the placings were based on alphabetical order, by this soul's reckoning, Leigh would be in 7th - but they are placed 8th. Random? Not with Saints top and Wigan in the play-offs! Mind you, Wakey are there too! Auntie should summon Dave Woods back from 'is 'ols to explain this and hopefully categorically deny that IMG have already deemed it thus.

Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Charles (Happy New Year, hope you are well?), Bongser only mentions the man with the "spherical" balls (didn't see that infamous instalment of MOTD so can't say for sure ) because he noticed today that The Beeb has (as long ago as October '22) posted a Super League table for '23: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-leagu ... ague/table As you will notice, every teams performance stats are at zero. If the placings were based on alphabetical order, by this soul's reckoning, Leigh would be in 7th - but they are placed 8th. Random? Not with Saints top and Wigan in the play-offs! Mind you, Wakey are there too! Auntie should summon Dave Woods back from 'is 'ols to explain this and hopefully categorically deny that IMG have already deemed it thus. '" Happy New Year Bongser, yeah I’m feeling good ,a lot better than pre Christmas , things are going well for the Carolis at the moment , we got some great news last week , but can’t say anything yet , just got back from a night in Scouse land , been to the Cher Show , it was brilliant , now I’m ready for the LSV show on Sat, hopefully a Leopards win , got my new shirt ready .

Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Charles (Happy New Year, hope you are well?), Bongser only mentions the man with the "spherical" balls (didn't see that infamous instalment of MOTD so can't say for sure ) because he noticed today that The Beeb has (as long ago as October '22) posted a Super League table for '23: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-leagu ... ague/table As you will notice, every teams performance stats are at zero. If the placings were based on alphabetical order, by this soul's reckoning, Leigh would be in 7th - but they are placed 8th. Random? Not with Saints top and Wigan in the play-offs! Mind you, Wakey are there too! Auntie should summon Dave Woods back from 'is 'ols to explain this and hopefully categorically deny that IMG have already deemed it thus. '" Happy New Year Bongser, yeah I’m feeling good ,a lot better than pre Christmas , things are going well for the Carolis at the moment , we got some great news last week , but can’t say anything yet , just got back from a night in Scouse land , been to the Cher Show , it was brilliant , now I’m ready for the LSV show on Sat, hopefully a Leopards win , got my new shirt ready .

Good to hear you are doing well Charlie. Whatever the good news is, congratulations. Good news is always worth celebrating.
Give the lads a cheers from me in the new shirt.

Good Morning VL , I hope you are well.?Leigh resembles Vancouver this morning ,it’s very white , cold,with a dusting of the white stuff, Ihope the LSV is ok for Saturday,it must be hard for you being so far away from the LSV .
I will deffo give the boys a cheer for you Saturday, can’t wait to sit in my usual place in the West Stand .My new shirts are already to wear , even got a Leopards scarf , very smart .
Anyway keep posting ,hopefully see ya on yer next visit .

Glad you OK, Charlie. Well, enjoy your leopard skin leotard while you can cos come the great financial crash of '23, DB will be looking to offload the Leopards. My cryptocurrencies and gold and silver investments will have skyrocketed and I will buy the underfed Leopards for a cut down price. The newly acquired Leopards will be attired in a traditional cherry and white rugby shirt. Match days will be on a Saturday with a 3pm KO. Transport to all away matches will be free to all supporters on subsidised coaches. All kids will be given free entry to games. 16 to 18 Yr £5 entry. The Legends bar will be returned to the fans. After I have purchased the LSV, a larger 'Mick Martyn' type bar will be built for the fans. I will take them to Challenge Cup success and Super League titles, and DB's reign of terror will be consigned to history.

I can dream

In the real world, after almost 60 years of support, my attendance of Leigh games will be via NOW TV cos I can't do Friday night KO. Enjoy the games, Charlie. See if I can spot you on't telly.