I hope we've informed the rfl of this possibility.
After all the grief we gave the crusaders for leaving it till the last minute i would hate for us to do the same.

We have to try though Steve. And a heck of a lot of folk are working very hard to try and sort out the current situation and then move on from there.

I for one am sick of losing anything good that we ever have, to the Castleford's of this World. Either we do something about it or we roll over and die. And I know which I prefer!

Well considering we've got rid of probably our biggest financial commitment , and several players are leaving , it hopefully won't come to that , however the bottom line is , we will/should have an idea how much we have to spend next season , it won't be very much , but as long as that is all we spend , not a problem

Let's try and be a Championship club first Alan , one that doesn't need propping up year on year

Like I said, we're trying to sort out the current situation first. And I don't believe any potential investor(s) would want to accept Championship rugby for any long spell.

I agree , that's why I don't think we will get one

Damn it, you're right. Let's all jack it in then. I'm enquiring how much a Warrington seaon ticket is, when they open in half an hour.

Come to the miners with me alan.

Well, there are some on here who think we'll be in that league with them, j.c.

What I'm trying to say is that there's people working their whatsits off to try and prevent that from happening and then move onwards and upwards. I.M.O. we have to aim high or we'll get what we deserve, if we don't try.

I don't disagree Alan , just that personally I like to know where I am starting from , when I start a journey , as well as knowing where I'm going and all the places I have to go through to get there

A bit like going to Batley. I always think I've got that journey cracked, but still get lost!



Seriously, again there are excellently qualified people working out exactly where we are starting from, just as there are excellently qualified folk trying to work out how we are going to get where we want to be.

However, in answer to those who are desperate for news of what's happening, Rome (just like Salford's new stadium

) wasn't built in a day!

And the good news is that they are doing it for nowt!

There is no qualification , that can prepare anybody to run a pro sports club , just my opinion , everybody is just guessing , those that end up succeeding are generaly just very lucky , or very rich to start with

Not talking about running it - I'm talking about sorting things out, helping to put professional structures in place and making it more viable than it currently is. that's what the professional people are doing.

And that is not meant to be disrespectful to any current or former staff. I'm talking about people (all fans) who the club wouldn't have been able to afford, if they'd had to pay them the 'going rate'.

I only hope Millward recomends the new coach or we een ask him to interview the Candidates as i dread to think who the "board" would select, Hows Winstons Leg these days and he has his own Bike pmsl

LSV receive 10% of the gate money, an average of 2500 means we get 2250. Most clubs in the Championship average less than 2250 so why do we have a problem???

10% minus VAT and Income tax plus not all are full price paying i.e. concessions and kids, and nearly all clubs if not all in the championship have a problem

Not to mention season ticket holders, kids for free, RL passholders etc.

I think the point being made was that the lsv were robbing us blind and thats not the case is it.

Well the set up at the LSV means that we don't have any access to the secondary income that must surely play a big part at other clubs.

It's like when we once asked directions in Ireland:

Driving down a country lane, completely lost - spots a farmer type coming up the lane toward us. Winds the window down, and asks " 'scuse me. Could you tell us how to get to Ballyglunin?"

He scratches his chin thoughtfully then says "So - it's Ballyglunin you're after is it?...............well, if I was you I wouldn't start from here!!"

As Matt says , it isn't a case of the cost of playing at the LSV , it's the loss of income that is the problem

Advertising , concession sales , less corporate profit combined with higher cost to corporate customers , loss of merchandise sales due to cost of space rental

All these things add up to a sizeable ( 100 K plus ) loss of income per season since moving into the LSV

Combine that with a disasterous 1 st season , more TV games on Thursday nights with the associated lower attendances , lower profile opposition since SL expanded to 14 ( similar situation next year with the loss of Widnes ) and you're over 200 K down on where we were 3/4 years ago , so where do we find £ 200,000 extra a year ?

1,200 fans at £ 10 per head for 14 home games with associated extra sales of merchandise ,LISA and Lottery and you've just about broke even and looking at a max salary cap spend and all the preferred coaches and junior projects

And the conclusion i come to is,its always someone elses fault.

Not someones elses fault jc , just that as your circumstances change , you have to change with them , we didn't/haven't , now we have to , just that we have less time , resources and general appeal to help us now , but it still has to be done