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| Quote ="Alan"Curiously, whilst trawling the RFL Operational Rules, I came up with the following gem on overseas' player allowances:-
Super League = 5; Championship 1 = 1; Championship 2 = 2.
Given that the RFL had earlier defined tthe leagues as Championship, and Championship 1, I would have thought any 'Mr. Loophole' lawyer would have a field day, explaining that it was fine, for Leigh to have had any number of overseas' players this season! Visas permitting, of course!
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I would hope though that the clubs was not just asked to register online to these rules by clicking "Yes" that they understand the rules and abide by them.
Simple typing error. Now you mention it though, maybe what you found was correct and original announcement was typing error and "1" was missed off Championship and they just went with it to save face.
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| We dont ask for a single thing from the RFL. We should just knuckle down and get back up there without any help from those s. I dont want other clubs coming on here quoting that we had any special treatment from that lot. Smile and be nice to them.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"We dont ask for a single thing from the RFL. We should just knuckle down and get back up there without any help from those s. I dont want other clubs coming on here quoting that we had any special treatment from that lot. Smile and be nice to them.'"
We did that last season and we got fined 5 grand and made to look amatuerish.
If we don't work with RFL for the just in case situation we get fined again, and another black mark against us.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"We dont ask for a single thing from the RFL. We should just knuckle down and get back up there without any help from those s. I dont want other clubs coming on here quoting that we had any special treatment from that lot. Smile and be nice to them.'"
We have no choice as we have ' aledgedley ' already spent the Championship 1 salary cap on half a squad
Therefore if we did get relegated we would not have enough players to make up a team
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| Quote ="Starbug"We have no choice as we have ' aledgedley ' already spent the Championship 1 salary cap on half a squad
Therefore if we did get relegated we would not have enough players to make up a team'"
Just get a load of 'amateurs' to play for nothing. It's all the rage, at 'some' clubs, apparently!
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| Toulouse shouldn't be playing in our league anyway I've said that all along. I don't agree with them playing in a British competition as it takes away from the French competition.
How will they ever develop their own league when their best teams and players keep coming over here? The other point would be that they should have started from the league below us like everyone else does.
Gateshead have umpteen Aussies playing in their team despite what it says on their passports. The RFL say they're a "development" club but they've been around for 10 years now in one form or another so it's absolutley pathetic.
Make the rules the same for everyone or stand to lose what little inegrity our sport still has.
Admittedly none of the above takes away from how poorly we've performed this season but these points are still relevant.
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| Quote ="Alan"Toulouse were only allowed one, but that was later increased to five, when they said they already had that number signed up! They were told,however, that they were only allowed one, from 2010 onwards. Not that it's likely to affect us, (!) but I wonder how many they end up with, in 2010? Because, without their Aussies, they will struggle - although that doesn't matter, eh?
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Toulouse will be fielding young SL stars in the making from all over the UK and from Catalan next year to ensure they win that all important 'tick in the box'.
Have you forgot about the dual registration scheme
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| Quote ="JENKY"Alan,
Toulouse will be fielding young SL stars in the making from all over the UK and from Catalan next year to ensure they win that all important 'tick in the box'.Have you forgot about the dual registration scheme
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Ticking the box is only for british clubs , non british clubs do not have to ' tick ' anything
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| Quote ="The Kevster!"Gateshead have umpteen Aussies playing in their team despite what it says on their passports.'"
Surely what it says on their passports is all that matters?
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| Quote ="alex16z"Surely what it says on their passports is all that matters?'" Why should it!
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| I heard we would be looking into checking Gateshead aussies etdc are legal if we were to go down.
BTW anyone can tip off the uk border agency
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| Quote ="itsatry!"Why should it!'"
Because I seriously doubt anyone at Gateshead has a fake passport. If they are 'Australian' but they have a legal EU passport, then that's all that matters.
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| Quote ="Alan"OK - still 8 though, as I forgot Henderson, who was born in Torquay but, for some bizarre reason best known to the RFL, is a 'quota' player. That's why he had to leave Cas'.'"
Franze, Nash, McBride and McAlpine also on EU passports and available to all clubs - but let's not let fact get in the way of a good conspiracy...
3 teams still in the mix, 1 will go down - and it will be a sad day for the fans of that club.
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| Quote ="alex16z"I think Gateshead have 5 Aussies. Not sure how many they're allowed! I think a club taking it upon themselves to investigate another club just smacks of bitterness really. Asking the RFL to look into something is as far as I reckon it would be suitable to go, not investigating it as a club.'"
Gateshead have 3 quota, Youngquest, Kahler and Aitken - not sure what the current position is re; Hendo
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| Quote ="Starbug"We have a choice , we either ask for dispensation or we infringe the Salary Cap
Then again the contract system in RL is wrong , we have players playing against teams they will be playing for next season and have a vested interest in
But your point does still stand , we cannot complain when the rules dont suit us and then ask for excemption when they do'"
Or you put together a squad within the salary cap.....just a thought
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| Quote ="Thunder Musketeer"Or you put together a squad within the salary cap.....just a thought'"
Unfortunatley too late for that , we have already given out contracts over and above the Championship 1 Salary cap
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| Quote ="Thunder Musketeer"Gateshead have 3 quota, Youngquest, Kahler and Aitken - not sure what the current position is re; Hendo'"
Many (most?) supporters of 'traditional' RL clubs would like to see all clubs in the Championship, playing to the same set of rules. You say you 'only' have three quota players (plus Henderson maybe) but Toulouse have five, and the rest are allowed one. (if they can get a visa! ) It's a bit like saying Barrow can have five points for a try, but Widnes can only have three!
By the way, I'm not saying Thunder have broken any rules, it's the rules I am questioning.
And, to further illustrate my point, it would appear that Leigh have now requested 'special dispensation' to exceed the Championship 1 salary cap, next season, should we be relegated. There seems to be a set of rules, with unlimited 'special dispensations' to get round them!
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| I am watching sheffield v Barrow last night and trying to weigh up how much each individual Barrow player's wages amounts to for the season. I assessed IMo that their salary cap was blown after Catic, Rooney, Bracek, Ellis and McDermotT
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| Quote ="plonk loner"I am watching sheffield v Barrow last night and trying to weigh up how much each individual Barrow player's wages amounts to for the season. I assessed IMo that their salary cap was blown after Catic, Rooney, Bracek, Ellis and McDermotT
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I actually think its time the RFL just scrapped the salary cap and overseas quotas.
Either that or go for same quotas right across the board - regardless where the club is.
How many clubs in RL can't a) Get local players or ones within a 1 hour drive or B) Get players to move to the area and play for that club.
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"I`ll have a word with the UKBA in our place....... they`re quite busy at the moment but no doubts they `ll find the time........
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I would welcome this type of investigation, and if it turned out that rules had been broken I would be the first to suggest that sanctions be taken.
But can I ask that any investigation be based on fact, instead of the I heard, she heard, the budgie heard tripe that has filled this forum so far.
If, however, any such investigation showed that no rules had been breached - including salary cap (which clown suggested that) - I have no doubt that the Leigh fans would not be as pragmatic, but let;s give them the chance to show that eh...
Yours (genuinely) in sport
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| Quote ="Thunder Musketeer":2g225kcxI would welcome this type of investigation, and if it turned out that rules had been broken I would be the first to suggest that sanctions be taken.
But can I ask that any investigation be based on fact, instead of the I heard, she heard, the budgie heard tripe that has filled this forum so far.
If, however, any such investigation showed that no rules had been breached - including salary cap (which clown suggested that) - I have no doubt that the Leigh fans would not be as pragmatic, but let;s give them the chance to show that eh...
Yours (genuinely) in sport
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| It may have been mentioned elsewhere but if toulouse finish 10th, surely it would have been fairer for only 1 team to get relegated and just promote 2 from the elague below.
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| Quote ="dick scratcher"It may have been mentioned elsewhere but if toulouse finish 10th, surely it would have been fairer for only 1 team to get relegated and just promote 2 from the elague below.'"
That would leave only 9 teams in Championship 1 , why should they suffer because of Toulouses inclusion ?
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