At this stage now, this is a very very bitter post. If I was feeling like this, i would just keep my trap shut and wouldn't go to any games.

He definitely won’t be forgotten, he has a shop named after him on Bradshawgate and on the retail park.

Would say, given his appearance V Toronto was the right decision by the club. Excellent?

THATS part of the problem. If you don't agree shut the conversation down

The PROBLEM is, some folk just can't stop dwelling about what they think should've happened, and who should/shouldn't be here. It's not about what i agree or disagree with.We have a squad here and now to do a job THIS season, and THAT'S what matters right now. Like I say, if you don't want to support it, then don't bother going.

Very True Derek,all the players we have let go have been replaced by better players, I won't miss any of them,they are yesterday's men..I can't wait for the Toronto game, a chance to lay our marker down for the coming season and a conclusive win will make the rest of the League sit up, of the Toronto team I can't honestly see any of them getting in Leigh 17,I'm a Brierley fan but he would struggle,Beswick and Emmitt are old school ,I predict a Leigh win by 24 or more next week.

For me it's irrelevant whether they are better or not (although I do agree with you, especially the overseas signings) ATEOTD we get behind the players currently wearing the shirts

And let's not all be pinning our nails to the mast on next Sunday, as much as I want Mr Smug to be put in his place, we can't see a defeat as being the end of the world - it's all about being ready for the 8s (assuming there will be one of course)

hope it right Charlie iv got a £50 bet on it

Blimey !

Why is it bitter, because it doesn't match your opinion... its someone elses perception and opinion... lets just accept it weather its right or wrong.

Gunner, they have had one run out against a poor Bradford side,and have had a few disruptions of their own , not counting an ageing pack and a thin back line .With our squad chomping at the bit to impress it should be a nailed on win, the points margin will depend on Jukesys tactics, myself I prefer Halls goalkicking to Reynolds.But let's make the LSV a very cold and unpleasant return for the ex Leythers, I love the thought of Vai Vai,Baptiste, Hanson, Patrick and Co,running at Emmitt,Beswick, Patterson and Co.

Budge have faith, Charlie knows.

Will Reynolds be in the team with baptise and hood my preferred hookers,going off the 2 friendlies it would have to be Mortimer and hutchinson at halfback because I think Reynolds hasn't done enough in the 2 games to start

Exactley the same for me Gunner, 9's Baptiste and Hood, 6 & 7 Mort and Hutch, and how about Hall in the centre replacing Crookes and Owen at FB, looks much more balanced to me.

I like the look of that.

Rickey Bailey is a better fullback than Owens. Very highly rated at Saints. When he is fit I would think he will get the number 1 berth with hall to Centre.

We'll just have to wait and see for that. So far Owens has done well.

For me I'd be going.... hall Owens matitui crookes Dawson Hutchinson Mortimer Acton baptiste viavia Hansen B Thomson J Thompson subs larroyer mason lovett hood

Sorry replace Lovett with Patrick

After today's game surely you have to agree with me that it is Jukes who should have been let go and not the players. He isn't good enough. He got us relegated from SL and if we don't replace him quickly we won't be going back to SL. Rowley was always the better coach, we used to play champagne rugby and he instilled a team spirit which has been sadly lacking ever since he left.

But didn't Jukes get us to SL? Rowley not!.. So both have failed.

Sorry but game 1 is not the time.
If this was game 8 and we put in that display I would say that we may need to rethink but it wasn’t. It was game 1 for an almost entirely new look team.
As for the Rowley did this and Jukes did that argument, it lacks 2 key points. Rowley failed to get us into SL, Jukes did get us into SL. Team spirt also takes time to happen.
I was very disappointed with the display but going forward I will be backing the [uwhole[/u club.

You could have got Leigh promoted with an additional 700k + budget.

Jukes walking would have been the decent thing to do. Interestingly, last years squad was his personal selection and apparently they weren't good enough. 12 months later an overhaul and another Jukes wish list. Today's 2nd half display was devoid of any form of desire, and after 60 mins Toronto had won. That hasn't happened since pre-Rowley. Maybe the Cunningham Effect?

And boy do we need a stand off. Jukes gave the best in the Championship away --- not good enough apparently.

Rowley had the biggest budget in Championship and still didn't do it. As I said both have failed.

True both Have failed. But looking at Jukes he just hasn't got it in him. His interviews are boring and one dimentional. He sits there in his seat showing very little emotion no leadership skills. At least Rowley had some things going for him. Come on Derek give Jukes some form of ultimatum before its too late. One game doesn't end the season but it can demorolise it