The club had 48 hours to make a decision in unusual circumstances - e.g can't use the pitch for 6 weeks, (do 'Fax consult the fans about when they want games played, to compensate for that, when the Shay is being seeded?) and sharing with another Championship club for a season. (were 'Fax's fixtures given priority, when Huddersfield were sharing, last season?)

We would dearly like to be in a position of being able to communicate direct with all our fans, and we are actually working on that.

As for asking the players, well they've suffered a lot currently, and the least we can do is talk to them, which doesn't actually cost us anything!

Fax know too well about sponsors and corparate packages etc not going according to plan, Link Telecom who were a big sponsor of fax went under whilst sponsoring us and it had a big effect. However it all turns out i wish your club nothing but the best, I wont be able to travel to any friday night games this year and will miss this fixture above all the others, the friendly atmosphere and chanting was fantastic last year in every encounter. Perhaps i might have to hope its on TV and buy a decent surround sound package and whack the volume up.

Halifax have had 4/5 yrs of consistant growth on the field and yet you still struggle to get above 2000 home spectators,why is that?.

I'd expect our game to get shifted to the Thursday. Hoping so anyroad as I can't make the Friday either, but so be it.


You know how people who no longer attend Leigh games harp on about 1971, 1981/82 etc and how that means we might as well be playing pub rugby these days? Well 'Fax were in third spot as recently as 1998 so I think they face our problem ten-fold!

Whilst the Fax man makes some good points I think he is wrong about the away support.

Lets be honest Fev Fax and last season Widnes brought a decent following but for whatever reason the rest do not. That is an undeniable fact.

Now regarding this coming season the matches against Fax and Fev would have probably been televised anyways.

Some cannot make Fridays well we still have some games on Sundays.

You cannot please everyone when it comes down to deciding on which day to play.

Swinton applied to the LSV company to play at the stadium. They did not apply to or ask Leigh RLFC for permission because they have no say in the matter.

Fax vs leigh is on thursday night.
The return fixture is on friday night at the moment,no doubt it could be changed to thursday.

Fax and fev wer probably the only 2 away games i was going to next season because i've other things to do with my money at the moment.As they are both on tv i will probably be giving them a miss as well.

I bet you a pint of Frank's money that you're at every game as normal John

This is what i'm trying to say Matt,clubs need to change the way they do business.

Alan, to say you were only communicating answers to questions asked i find your post confrontational this is'nt a Fax is better than Leigh post.

Leigh only had 48 hours notice that the pitch would be resufaced ?. hard to beleive or some serious communication problems somewhere between Council/LSV/Leigh

Yes Fax's fixtures took priority over the Shay, The shay is being resurfaced this year so we are playing 4 away games on the trot, not changing the dates. Fax have a ten year lease with the council for the stadium therfore HRLFC take priority over anybody borrowing the pitch, we share with FC Halifax town and although most supporters of each club dislike the other it works very well indeed.

Talking to the Employees is fine, Cowtailing to what they want is different, As for communicating with your fans, Did you not do that at the Fans forum and tell them sundays to only go and change it fridays ?. i believe that to be the case and i would be pretty peed off too as a supporter. I would have thought that season ticket sales would be a main priority to get the money in the pot so the club can reach its business plan as to not breach salary cap ( 30% of turnover IIRC ) and not get a points deduction again. Looking at the 25 pages of responses it appears to me that this has/will have a adverse effect on ST sales.

Take your Leigh head off and look at it from a outsiders pespective and you might see what i mean.

Thats a good question, If you can answer it please send it to every club below SL level. Increasing caverage crowds by 50 -100 fans is hardly making strides is it ?.

Every Method every club has tried below SL has little or no effect at all, ( unless you double your last gate of the season by giving Free tickets out and counting them on the attendances )

Change your game day to Friday nights.

i think i have bladder problems, when i read that and laughed a little bit of wee came out.

you could be right matt,i do love away days Fax,Fev and barrow were outstanding days last season. unfortunately its £60 a chuck to do it right, and i'm trying to get a new venture up and running so that money would come in handy next year .

But have fax changed the way they do things or are they still just sitting back and hoping for the best, IE, if we keep playing well and winning trophies then they will eventually come back.

He fell in the trap - hook line and sinker

It wasn't hard really.

No intention of being confrontational, with you - especially a 'Fax supporter.

The point I was labouring to make is that not everything is in our hands. A comparison might be that you are playing four consecutive away matches, because your pitch also requires attention. (Footballers ripping it up, eh?

) However, 'Fax wouldn't have consulted the fans about how happy they are about four consecutive away games

If you backtrack over admittedly a heck of a lot of posts, you will see that Leigh had 48 hours to make a decision for the RFL. We always knew the pitch was to be re-done, but up to last Tuesday, assumed our wish to play on Sundays wasn't affected. That's why the Forum was told we would be playing on Sundays. (Premier Sports permitting)We had until the Thursday, to come up with alternative dates for the clashes. (i.e Tuesday to Thursday was the 48 hours I referred to)

You are right - s/t sales will probably be adversely affected - that was always going to happen, because prices were increased, for the first time in a number of years. I sympathise with fans who can't make Fridays. I also prefer Sundays, but am lucky enough to be able to make Fridays too. For the record, I detest travelling over the M62 in the evening, but I'll still be at the Shay on the Thursday evening, because it's always a cracking game.

As for taking my Leigh head off, no apologies there - it's Leigh's problem, and that's what is being discussed.

No alarmist, no spin just facts !!

You are comparing an early bird offer with a full price ticket. The prices you use are factual yes, but your comparison is an attempt to cause trouble and is a nonsense.

Was a NS ST £140 after the early bird deal?.
No idea what the west cost after the early bird deal.

Not forgetting that the club did not increase the ST price in 2011 in line with the increase in VAT , only a small difference , but still there

Either way , any business sets its prices , people either purchase the product at the price quoted , or dont

Thanks for the reply Alan, but come on some of these 'issues' were always going to be present,

New pitch would have been planned.
Swinton playing at LSV potential fixture clash
Players have other proper jobs so would always want week-ends off , don't we all?
If Fridays better for corporate then it should have been planned and explained, and every Friday
The 'it allows players longer to recover Friday 'til Sunday' is ok but what about when its Sunday 'til Friday

But we are now were we are, we've had our whinge, lets hope we learn from it, its now time to move on and support the club.

I have no intention of causing trouble pipe down will you. Oh yes after spending several thousands of pounds helping the club in the last few years yes I'd like to cause trouble.

Early bird offer do me a favour we didn't sell a single ticket after that early bird offer ended!

Simple facts once again the price of a single adult season ticket for the west stand is 55% more than last year!

Any how I'm more than happy with family ticket which represents a significant saving year on year!

Apart from NRC fixtures, Im I right that we will only play 2 home games on SUnday in the League this season, prior to the playoffs?

Yeah, can't really understand what all the fuss has been about.