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| We lost , the world hasn't stopped revolving , the sun hasn't burst , nobody's dropped an Atom bomb ( yet ) , life will go on , we play Catalans next week ' I'll be in the pub hoping we can get a result and then in the north stand against Widnes supporting MY team
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"We lost , the world hasn't stopped revolving , the sun hasn't burst , nobody's dropped an Atom bomb ( yet ) , life will go on , we play Catalans next week ' I'll be in the pub hoping we can get a result and then in the north stand against Widnes supporting MY team'"
Exactly so, but it is the manner that loss came about, the title of the thread says it all "Very Poor" you can obviously take it on the chin with a shrug and a deep breath Starbug, I on the other hand prefer the route of what can or should be done to improve matters.
P.S. how is life on the Red Dwarf these days?
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"That Drinkwater is absolutely awful, if Hampshire or Reynolds played that bad they would never get picked again'"
Ive said for weeks he disappears for large amounts of the time.To me hes a short pass near line and than a long pass out wide and that s his attacking skills.He never attacks the line with any threat
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| Well after strong medication after yesterday's game (I needed it)and some sleep ,I still feel the same,why Hopkins can't get a game is beyond me,I would have either of Reynolds or Hampshire before Fleming,and quite simply we didn't deserve to win.
We are still in with a chance though,a slim one but a chance,for me the MPG is nailed on, HKR next 2 games are against Championship teams and they will probably be on 8 points after them, Warrington will cruise the 8's ,London will be hard to beat and that means we must beat Cats next week,folk keep saying we will beat Widnes we haven't done yet this season,a bit more urgency in play is needed,otherwise it's back to Batley, Dews , and Blackpool next season.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Well after strong medication after yesterday's game (I needed it)and some sleep ,I still feel the same,why Hopkins can't get a game is beyond me,I would have either of Reynolds or Hampshire before Fleming,and quite simply we didn't deserve to win.
We are still in with a chance though,a slim one but a chance,for me the MPG is nailed on, HKR next 2 games are against Championship teams and they will probably be on 8 points after them, Warrington will cruise the 8's ,London will be hard to beat and that means we must beat Cats next week,folk keep saying we will beat Widnes
we haven't done yet this season,a bit more urgency in play is needed,otherwise it's back to Batley, Dews , and Blackpool next season.'"
100%. I honestly believe had Jukes picked a consistent team (barring the injuries which obviously caused some disruption), instead of trying to people please and outsmart the opposition, Leigh would be cemented in the top 8. Leigh are SL's biggest underachievers this year and that stings. They were superb in the 8's last year and recruited well with what was available. However the ROI has been abysmal. If Leigh stay up, will DB have the courage to pull the trigger?
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| Everyone is entitled to their opinion on here. I don't post much, but that doesn't mean if you say anything negative about the team,coaches or owner you should be hung drawn and quartered for it by the "Rose Tinted Glasses Brigade". Personally I agree mostly with the original poster. We didn't create one decent break (if any) yesterday. We never use an inside pass or do anything creative to break the defensive line. Our forwards were dire and lacked any real firepower. The only time things look positive is when Micky Higham comes on for a period. If they all had the heart of Mickey then we would not be where we are now. Too many of our players are only playing for the paycheck. Regarding the coach, yes we need a change but its far too late to change him this season. If we want to survive in Superleague, then things have to change.
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| Quote ="chris 35"Everyone is entitled to their opinion on here. I don't post much, but that doesn't mean if you say anything negative about the team,coaches or owner you should be hung drawn and quartered for it by the "Rose Tinted Glasses Brigade". Personally I agree mostly with the original poster. We didn't create one decent break (if any) yesterday. We never use an inside pass or do anything creative to break the defensive line. Our forwards were dire and lacked any real firepower. The only time things look positive is when Micky Higham comes on for a period. If they all had the heart of Mickey then we would not be where we are now. Too many of our players are only playing for the paycheck. Regarding the coach, yes we need a change but its far too late to change him this season. If we want to survive in Superleague, then things have to change.'"
A contradiction , nothing can change now
Personally Mickeys trying too hard and is the least effective of our hookers
Yes we are missing power up front but again , not much we can do about that but go with what we have
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"A contradiction , nothing can change now
Personally Mickeys trying too hard and is the least effective of our hookers
Yes we are missing power up front but again , not much we can do about that but go with what we have'"
Contradiction? Er no. I said a change is needed (which it is) but its too late to do it this season. That is not a contradiction.
Mickey Higham is least effective of our hookers? You cannot be serious.
Missing Power up front? Agree, they need to put an extra 20% effort in.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"A contradiction , nothing can change now
Personally Mickeys trying too hard and is the least effective of our hookers
Yes we are missing power up front but again , not much we can do about that but go with what we have'"
Spot on. Add Hock and Crooks, the guys that really dug deep to carry others early on, now paying the price out injured!
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| Quote ="chris 35"Contradiction? Er no. I said a change is needed (which it is) but its too late to do it this season. That is not a contradiction.
Mickey Higham is least effective of our hookers? You cannot be serious.
Missing Power up front? Agree, they need to put an extra 20% effort in.'"
So we stay up , job done , just improve next year
We go down , change needed
Yes Mickeys trying too hard , scooting too much , restricting our options
3 strike players , Hock,Jamie and Dane no longer available
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| We played one man clueless rugby. Only Langi came out with any credit. HKR are only average but the better team won. That's twice they have beaten us this year at the LSV. A SL side should be putting 30 past HKR at home. We've signed SL and NRL players. You have to look at the coaching team now. They obviously aren't getting the best from the players. Hope they prove me wrong against Cats.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"So we stay up , job done , just improve next year
We go down , change needed
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3 strike players , Hock,Jamie and Dane no longer available'"
Restricting our options lol ... what are those 5 drives then an up & under
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| Quote ="Genehunt"Restricting our options lol ... what are those 5 drives then an up & under'"
No he means passing the ball along the line hopefully arriving at a 16.5 stone centre,instead of constantly scooting for the line.
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| Quote ="Genehunt"Restricting our options lol ... what are those 5 drives=#FF0000 then an up & under'"
After HKR had comfortably dealt with the first 2/3 high kicks, we should have changed the kicking option. (It seemed to be low kicks that troubled Featherstone, for instance) Carney and Moss were happy fielding those kicks all the second half and, yet again, as there was no depth to the kicks, our opponents were starting their sets 20-30 metres from their own tryline. Surely the aim should be for them to have to come out from their own tryline, or in-goal area?
Also, would it not be an idea to vary the kick off? (like Nanyn and Ridyard used to do) Kicking high, to the same player, in the hope that he drops it, is becoming very predictable. True, I remember Hampshire finding touch from a re-start once this season, but that tactic was swiftly knocked on the head!
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"We played one man clueless rugby. Only Langi came out with any credit. HKR are only average but the better team won. That's twice they have beaten us this year at the LSV. A SL side should be putting 30 past HKR at home. We've signed SL and NRL players. You have to look at the coaching team now. They obviously aren't getting the best from the players. Hope they prove me wrong against Cats.'"
What a bitter load of tosh, you were playing a club who have far more resources then leigh, just because of your previous SL status, don't presume you should be whipping us.
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| Quote ="moxi1"What a bitter load of tosh, you were playing a club who have far more resources then leigh, just because of your previous SL status, don't presume you should be whipping us.'"
Leigh is a much better team on paper, with bags of SL and NRL experience. Two defeats at home to Hull KR is a very poor outcome.
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| Quote ="Centurino"Leigh is a much better team on paper, with bags of SL and NRL experience. Two defeats at home to Hull KR is a very poor outcome.'"
It is indeed. As it was for Hull KR being turned over by Leigh at Craven Park last qualifiers. No denying it
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| Quote ="atomic"No he means passing the ball along the line hopefully arriving at a 16.5 stone centre,instead of constantly scooting for the line.'"
We haven't done that all season
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| Thought it was a poor spectacle with neither team deserving to win it or lose it thus a Ref error (or video referee not checking why so many players complained)was kinda fitting.
If we play like that then it's Batley away for certain next season however the beauty of being inconsistent all season is the team are more than capable of playing much better thus still all to play for and nothing remotely decided yet.
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| Quote ="JENKY"Thought it was a poor spectacle with neither team deserving to win it or lose it thus a Ref error (or video referee not checking why so many players complained)was kinda fitting.
If we play like that then it's Batley away for certain next season however the beauty of being inconsistent all season is the team are more than capable of playing much better thus still all to play for and nothing remotely decided yet.'"
You wanted the video ref to check something he's not allowed to check?
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"It is indeed. As it was for Hull KR being turned over by Leigh at Craven Park last qualifiers. No denying it'"
The keyword was "Two". Additionally, I'd say Leigh's team in the 2016 8's, post investment -- relative to Hull KR's -- was much closer in quality compared to the two teams in 2017. I think Leigh's is far better on paper with regards experience.
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| Come on Stan, surely the idea of a video ref is all about coming to the correct decision. Even Sheens has gone on record and said HKR 'got very lucky with the last try'
I don't want to just dwell on that though as clearly Leigh did not deserve to win it.
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| Quote ="SirStan"You wanted the video ref to check something he's not allowed to check?'"
Considering the gravity of the call I want the correct decision, if that means the video referee uses common sense then yes.
Even with the increasing amount of play acting in RL its still rare for so many players to surround the referee asking for him to check what was a clear error (one he or his touch judges should have actually seen as it was pretty clear to all nearby).
I'm certain one of the Top 4 referees would have asked for the play the ball to be checked in view of that just to make sure they hadn't missed something, The cost of Smith not doing that could be in the Millions to Leigh.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Come on Stan, surely the idea of a video ref is all about coming to the correct decision. Even Sheens has gone on record and said HKR 'got very lucky with the last try'
I don't want to just dwell on that though as clearly Leigh did not deserve to win it.'"
H, why should not be able to dwell on a diabolical ref decision . In a crucially important match the Ref has decided the outcome ! At the end when KR were hanging on where were the yellow cards for deliberate interference / offside ? You know we would have received them !
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| Quote ="Genehunt"Restricting our options lol ... what are those 5 drives then an up & under'"
Quite often a planned move shifting the ball wide will need the right sort of play before it , ie a forward driving in and a quick PTB from the hooker giving the halves time and space , too often Mickey is going for the line when it isn't on , with several tackling players involved slows the play down and an extra play needed
He's trying too hard , his games left are counting down and it's affecting his judgement for me , more composure needed
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