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| That sort of messes up peoples theories that JohnJohn is really Paul Rowley having yet another attempt to disrupt the club Ste
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| Has Derek signed for Toronto yet?
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| I am not stirring on here, I am asking there must be something going on to warrant all these players leaving. As for Whiting if he has signed a new deal, why no official confirmation? If Ridy has been offered a new improved contract why has he not signed it. Why is the club so secretive? If they would be more open with the fans there would not be all the speculation.
By the way my name is John Johnson from Lowton, I was at the game yesterday. So I do go to games, not that I sholud have to disclose myself to the fans forum mafia
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| That's one ticked off then for JohnJohns
What did you think of the game yesterday John, what were your highlights and why? Did we look like a team torn apart and who told you all that carp?? A current player who currently isn't playing really narrows it down, bet he hasn't got an axe to grind if true.
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| That isnt official confirmation or am I missing something? I thought Leigh were excellant yesterday, my MOM was Dixon after his long lay off closely followed by Patterson and Fui. Smith played well at centre and Reynolds didnt look out of place. Disappointed with Fax performance. Were they that bad or did or Leigh make them look that average. I havent got a problem with the team and the way they play. I think the club should put all these rumours to bed. Its no wonder no-one new joins this forum. Its like you have to pass a test to enter the 'elite posters club" Its obvious it must just be me who thinks something is wrong, I must apologise to you totally deluded die hards
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| Quote ="JohnJohns"That isnt official confirmation or am I missing something? I thought Leigh were excellant yesterday, my MOM was Dixon after his long lay off closely followed by Patterson and Fui. Smith played well at centre and Reynolds didnt look out of place. Disappointed with Fax performance. Were they that bad or did or Leigh make them look that average. I havent got a problem with the team and the way they play. I think the club should put all these rumours to bed. Its no wonder no-one new joins this forum. Its like you have to pass a test to enter the 'elite posters club" Its obvious it must just be me who thinks something is wrong, I must apologise to you totally deluded die hards'"
The club did a release confirming Whiting had signed for next season when they announced he was on loan for this season
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| John do you work for a reasonably sized business, do they respond to every rumour started in a tea break? Owners lead and managers manage for a reason, we aint a social club committee any more although I accept that some feel we should be. Owners players and coaches continually change, we support a club and those owning it pay for the privilege to make the decisions.
Can you imagine the man hours needed to satisfy the whims of a few, time will show who is staying and who is leaving enjoy the now and trust that the 2017 squad will be better than the 2016
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| Why should the club put all these rumours to bed? It will all come out in the wash. If a player doesn'the want to be here I would rather they went. Ask yourself the reason they want to play in Championship 1 rather than the Champ or SL. Most of the ones leaving could get a contract in the championship but they have chosen to play on the lowest tier of pro RL in front of sub 400 crowds when over here
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| Agree. I am a Leigh fan and I only want players at our club who have ambition to get to the Superleague
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Why should the club put all these rumours to bed? It will all come out in the wash. If a player doesn'the want to be here I would rather they went. Ask yourself the reason they want to play in Championship 1 rather than the Champ or SL. =#FF0000Most of the ones leaving could get a contract in the championship but they have chosen to play on the lowest tier of pro RL in front of sub 400 crowds when over here
Derek Halliwell'"
In a nutshell Derek. No ambition, other than to take the Canadian dollar, and follow the 'messiah'!
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| Some of the most interesting comments I've read this year have been in Derek's Observer column. Astute interesting and aware.
I go wonder though why Derek persists ? We have won the league 3 times , excellent ground finance and fans yet have to go through the charade of M8 without having any real ability to recruit SL players. My concern is that the number of contracts ending this year shows a finality. If it isn't then please RFL don't allow Toulose and Toronto any say in how the home and away aspects of future M8's are organised.
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| Quote ="JohnJohns" I must apologise to you totally deluded die hards'"
You have just flushed down the pan any credibility that you may have had. Anyone who disagrees with you gets sarcasm and insult.
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| Quote ="reffy"You have just flushed down the pan any credibility that you may have had. Anyone who disagrees with you gets sarcasm and insult.'"
Pot and kettle comes to mind, this is all I have had since joining the forum. Anyone who says anything against the norm is lambasted and ridiculed.
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| But have you read the sheeite you posted to get a reaction? As a fan be critical, positive criticism is always good when supported but after all the crap we fans have had to endure this year you have to expect the " oh no not another " type response
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| The problem is if you feel you are saying something against 'the norm', using facts in your discussion would help greatly. Your very first post on the 10th July having joined on the 9th was a mixture of what most people already knew from reading the rugby papers, which is fine, however it also contained some statements allegedly told to you by a non playing player which I know to be totally untrue. There are several members here who are here just to stir the pot and unfortunately for yourself you placed yourself into that category in many peoples minds with the inaccuracies and tone of your original post. You have clearly been 'lurking for years' (if indeed you are a new member, name changes are not unknown ) and appeared to know exactly the response you would get. There is nothing wrong with opinions, but it helps if they are based on fact.
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| Derek's lost the team
deluded
lambasted
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I am not stirring on here
fans forum mafia
Its no wonder no-one new joins this forum
Dont shoot the messenger
If you think I have an ulterior motive for posting
just just get slagged off by the 6 people "in the know"
I have never posted on this forum before
Leyther, my ar$e.
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| Quote ="JohnJohns"Pot and kettle comes to mind, this is all I have had since joining the forum. Anyone who says anything against the norm is lambasted and ridiculed.'"
There are quite a few posters who post against 'the norm' and these posters could also say that those that disagree with them are the ones posting against the norm, the norm is different depending in which view you take. You are not a debater because you don't accept an opposite view so you have a go.
Btw, you also post rubbish, that is not insulting you, it is insulting the stuff you post.
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| It was so difficult to compose my post above without using the word rubbish
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| I think most of the people replying on here would be very puzzled by the subject title - Derek lost the team?
From that point on mate you have lost all credibility, first of all the coaching staff pick the team and as far as i can see for every player that leaves we usually find a better player coming in.
Anyone who thinks the team wont constantly evolve is deluded, even the top, top teams who stay successful always add quality YOY. I bet Mr Hetherington wishes he had done that 10 months ago...
Enjoy your time as a Leigh fan this success wont last forever nothing does but why its here be appreciative and happy that you have an owner like Derek who will back the team to the hilt. Whether you like Derek or not is your choice but at the very least every Leyther should be grateful of his fantastic investment and drive for success.
The bitter individuals who have constantly spouted absolute rubbish about Derek are still about in fact they usually rear their head about this time of year in the vain hope that we fail in the 8's and Derek walks away then they can put their capes on and go back to us being a corner shop RL club..
Enjoy your RL I do....
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| Here a bit of good news Drinkwater signing a 2 yr deal.
Cancelled out by a bit of bad news Spencer signing for London
Well he was right about Armstrong!!
Still waiting on confirmation on Whiting and Ridys signing his improved deal
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| Thought it had already been announced about Ridy. How can Ridys be an improved one, you said he hadn't been offered one
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| C'mon Demon surely you can work out no offer to any offer is an improved offer.
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