I was advised that the top 2 will be the clubs that finish the league campaign in the top 2 positions and therefore referred as such rather than ' The Grand Finalists'.

I believe this was decided by the Championship clubs themselves and confirmed by the members of our board present at the recent LISA meeting.

However for me personally, wether any new format will eventually be introduced still very much remains to be seen.

Not sure Harold. Certainly recently our BOD were talking up 'getting to the GF', as being vital. Of course, being Rugby League, things may have changed!

There is no way the ludicrous licenscing system will continue.

Every club is aware of the damage it has done to the pro game in the UK and France.

Until SL sorts itself out, because ultimatly we only get what they ( not the RFL ) give us , it doesnt matter what we've been told

Great innit

Has to be frustrating, trying to run a business, when unsure of what your ultimate aim is!

They know licenscing is harming' and has badly damaged the game and therefore their own finances too.

Common sense tells me this next season is important for every club because THEY WILL ALL be battling for promotion or' to avoid relegation.

Licenscing is being dustbinned for one single reason and that is everyone knows it has failed and will always fail for any pro contact sport in the UK.

Derailed topic this was regarding season tickets , etc

Season tickets and discussions about a new league structure are interlinked.

I have read posts on here where people have alluded that a ST purchase is now pretty much dependant on a change to a new structure.

As Demon says, there is nothing official from the RFL yet that this is going to occur. It may be the clubs have been told that it will happen but I would say any delay in making it public is not helping any one at all.

Derailed or not we will sell more season tickets when everyone accepts that promotion and relegation is back and licenscing is consigned to the dustbin where it belongs.

Why should a new structure in 2015 affect 2014 season tickets? There will be no promotion at the end of 2014, we will still be a championship team in 2015........probably playing for promotion to SL 1 in 2016

Why should a new structure in 2015 affect 2014 season tickets? There will be no promotion at the end of 2014, we will still be a championship team in 2015........probably playing for promotion to SL 1 in 2016

This next season ie 2014 will be the last for licenscing. At the end of that season it means that in 2015 we could be playing in the top league ie not 2016.

ATM nobody knows what anybody will be playing for anytime

When the SL clubs decide what we are playing for, I'm sure they'll tell us

The 2014 season is vital in preparation for a new structure in 2015. To win it will mean £650k in Leigh's coffers for 2015. To be runners up will mean Leigh receiving a cheque to the tune of a cool £500k. To finish outside those positions will effectively mean a pittance heading in the clubs direction.

Have you any idea how much of a boost that kind of cash for a top 2 position will do for Leigh's chances of success in any new structure and how the club may actually fare without it?

Therefore the 2014 season has now added importance than ever , extra spice and interest where we need to get off to a flyer, effectively seeking a major advantage in preparation for 2015. Once the new structure proposals are rubber stamped I will have my ST for this campaign like a shot.

As it stands and if the Championship continues as it is now, I will probably try and make an effort to see the Halifax and Fev home games. As for the other matches I don't think I could care less until perhaps the play offs. I have got far to much going on these days.

You may still be excited about the game at Championship level and fair enough. Quite frankly and increasingly so over the past few years I have been bored to tears by it.

A quick look at the ever decreasing crowds whilst inside the stadium suggests I far from alone in that view point recently..

Thats the point I'm making James, this extra money has been promised by Mr Wood, unfortunatly it wasnt his to offer, until the SL clubs agree it, it isnt there to be played for

Well you obviously think the current Non Relegation Club Chairmen are daft.

I prefer to think they will have taken on board licenscing was a costly mistake and will come to the decision I have and am sure there will be an announcement soon.

There is a post on the Fax Board from a poster who thinks Non Relegation clubs of ten will break away. That is equally as daft as licencsing and of course will never happen because most folk learn from bad mistakes.

I know and as we edge ever so close to start of the the 2014 season, there is still nothing official. In fact I do not think they have agreed on a revised date to even get the SL clubs back round the negotiating table.

Worried? I think we should start to be.

There are still 10 weeks till the first league game for us next season.

There will be a statement soon which I trust will be sooner rather than later.

Frank, in pro sport there is a long history of people not learning from their's and others mistakes, and yes they might realise licencing probably wont work in UK sport, but giving up another near million pounds to Championship Clubs is another thing entirely

On the Fax board they are a little less giddy at the prospect of joining a competition that established clubs with fan bases close to 10,000 and stadiums that earn them money are struggling in, make of that what you will

There are currently only Wire Pies Saints Leeds and Hull with such crowds.

They I am sure will see sense as will the rest.

I said ' close to ' , not over 10'000 ,that would include Bradford,HKR, Wakey and Cas

Come on frank, I'm sure you can do the maths

Well it will come as no surprise to you or I am sure everyone else that maths is one of my better subjects.

None of the clubs you mention average anywhere near 10k crowds and never will do under a licenscing system.

Good of you to help fund the team. If 2014 is so pivotal why can't you bring yourself to support them. If everyone just came out for a couple of games, you should prepare yourself for having no team to support. But hey at least you will have saved the money you spent the previous season.

Top post demon, folk profess to want a club to follow as and when they choose and leave it to others to keep alive for the odd game they wish to attend
I will miss at least half the games next year but bought my season ticket because for £160 I want my club still to be here in the future, I urge others to do the same and back what I feel will be a great 2014

Hi Leo

Your numbers you quote are not a million miles away from the actual figures within the proposal and you are right to some degree though I would urge you to reconsider your position if at all possible.

The new distribution of monies under the new proposal while heavily loaded in favour of the top two still mean that the third and forth place teams receive a big increase on previous years and indeed the rest of the league receive a better allocation than ever before so hardly a pittance. What I'm getting at is the new structure in my opinion will help the progress of the whole game not just the SL and top two from Championship and in my opinion will help revive the whole game and filter down to the Community game that's why so many people are keen to see it pushed through and ratified ASAP.

Because this possible structure change coincides with a new board at our club of and myself and some of the other Directors have invested and committed to long term investment to safeguard the club it means we are now forward thinking and not looking over our shoulder as an ambitious club with aspirations of bigger and better things and we've identified we need to in the top two next season as the reality is if we are not it's going to be very hard to overcome the the two that do make it as well as the possible two coming down from SL in 2015 but it doesn't mean that the overall strength of the championship comp will not be improved also and for me the standard of this comp will never have been better.

Your right the increased cash will give us an opportunity to further improve the squad and make more players if not all full time ready for SL but our main source of income and ability to grow the club will always come from existing revenue streams and none are more important to the club than people like yourself coming along and backing us and season ticket sales are key!

I fully understand your frustrations as prior to getting involved I was guilty of picking and choosing my games mainly due to other commitments but also the fact we didn't seem to be going anywhere and the door to SL was shut but once you are involved you truly realise just how important ever single supporter and indeed every season ticket is not just to the chances of success but also to make sure we have a club for the kids to grow up watching and future generations to cherish like we have been lucky to.

Hope to see you in 2014.

Cheers

Andy Mazey