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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Alan , its an issue that will effect everyone in time , its called owd age , it will be the first year i qualify and this happens , i to hope the club , can sort something out .'"
Charlie, I feel strongly about this issue and won't let it go. I realise and understand that the club needs to raise money, but I fear this will have the opposite effect.
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| Quote ="Alan"Charlie, I feel strongly about this issue and won't let it go. I realise and understand that the club needs to raise money, but I fear this will have the opposite effect.'"
I'm with you on this one Alan - same as Charlie age wise and therefore effected by this change as are a few more I reckon - it's unacceptable to increase ST / entrance fee, for those who are currently between 60 and 65, by that %age - because of a change in policy that is not in line with our competitors. Certainly make me think twice about a ST next year
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| To me this is yet another stupid decision badly sold to the customer base by people who do not know how to do these things. They have marketeers to call upon within the loyal sponsor group who could help, did they ask these people eg Derek B? or did we have the arrogance we have seen too often recently.
We are in this fight together, have some respect for the stakeholders who filled the void this year via LISA, Lottery, Corporate Club or buying tickets to watch games.
We have plenty soul less sound bytes like 'fetch bob' or 'BeLeighve' or the endless comittees to show how 'listening and engaging' we are. The board have worked wonders in many areas but in others ......................
Have a rethink and engage those with ability who would help. We all want the same thing, please allow those struggling in these difficult times to remain attending fans.
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| I can't do Fridays but joined the touchdown club anyway paying £180 over the season for the privilege. Given the rise in the cost of a season ticket for me (63 at the start of next season) I expect the touchdown club to increase the cost of membership
As we are playing 3 matches on a Friday next season and I will be on holiday 2 Sundays I will probably miss 4 matches; so no touchdown club or season ticket for me next year - I will pay on the day and this is why support drops every year. Featherstone on a Friday and York / Hunslet on a Sunday-its raining sunday afternoon £18 to watch a poor match equals can't be bothered to go.
The season ticket keeps supporters interested no matter who we play yet we seem to be driving them away. How many more surveys do we need to confirm that Sunday is the day we want our rugby?
As for the players we seem to have overlooked that they work full time and will have to come home from work on a Friday and then turn out again to play 80 minutes of rugby.
The only people who will benefit from Friday night matches are those with caravans or who support Liverpool Bolton Wigan or some other football club that does not play on a Friday.
We were the first club to play on a Sunday back in about 1967, it was a good move then and I think it remains so.
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| The question should actually be why have we been subsiding people 60-65 years of age, no logic in it .The state pension age should be what the club should work off, why should someone aged 60 be allowed to sponge off the rest of us ?
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| Quote ="Ian M"The question should actually be why have we been subsiding people 60-65 years of age, no logic in it .The state pension age should be what the club should work off, why should someone aged 60 be allowed to sponge off the rest of us ?'"
Your turn will come , you may change your views then .
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| My issue is not the pricing, and I do think pensionable age should be the driver.
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| Charlie your defence to an objective and fair point is in essence" I was looking forward to free loading but they've stopping it" pathetic
I know that my principals would not be altered just because my personal circumstances gave me the opportunity, due to an arbitrary/ illogical rule, to sponge off others
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| What have your headmasters got to do with it?
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| It's unbeleivable how the under 65s have never paid the full rate before. No wonder this club keeps getting into a financial mess. Well done to the club on tightening this loop hole. The club has been pandering to free loaders for far too long.
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"It's unbeleivable how the under 65s have never paid the full rate before. No wonder this club keeps getting into a financial mess. Well done to the club on tightening this loop hole. The club has been pandering to free loaders for far too long.'"
I don't call getting a concession for 60 and above being a free loader ,but I do think that the match day ticket price for concession has been too low { I am not in that age bracket } Hope the board change their mind on this and keep it at 60 .There are more of the older supporter than the younger I reckon so shouldn't alienate in my opinion.
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| IMHO it should go off whether you are retired or not ie through il l health or whether you are under 65 and still working.
I think you will find this is what we will end up going with.
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| Quote ="itsatry!"I don't call getting a concession for 60 and above being a free loader ,but I do think that the match day ticket price for concession has been too low { I am not in that age bracket } Hope the board change their mind on this and keep it at 60 .There are more of the older supporter than the younger I reckon so shouldn't alienate in my opinion.'"
I think Cherry was being facetious.
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"I think Cherry was being facetious.'"
OOPS missed that but I am on the red wine
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| Some of us freeloaders have been watching Leigh since we attended Junior school.
I started watching Leigh RLFC in 1956 for example. My opinion is you don't usually become a fan of a club when you reach 60 years of age.
Most concession paying fans have no problem with a couple of quid increase per game but almost doubling admission for 60-64's won't pay off will it ?
I don't know of any Championship club and I can't think of any Superleague club who charges full price for this age group.
I am a member of the Touchdown club and still will be I hope for sometime yet however the club must have another look at this particular point.
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| Quote ="Ian M"The question should actually be why have we been subsiding people 60-65 years of age, no logic in it .The state pension age should be what the club should work off, why should someone aged 60 be allowed to sponge off the rest of us ?'"
Ian, many women became pensioners, legally at the age of 60, in recent years. So, whilst in receipt of a state pension, surely the club should also treat them as pensioners?
Personally, I don't think a price hike of well over 100% in s/t prices for one group of our support, is going to enhance our s/t sales.
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| If the increase is justifiable then it is correct, it happened with kids tickets years ago £10 to £25.
Again my greatest concern is making it affordable to families, they are the future and will be generally the worst hit by the economic climate not a 63 year old retired on full pension living in a mortgage free house, or indeed still in gainful employ.
We need to look at the target market and imho it is kids playing some form of sport under 11 years and their mums, forget dads they will either be absent, pub-soccer fans or already watch us. As we all know its mostly mums who do the running around with the kids.
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| Quote ="Ian M"Charlie your defence to an objective and fair point is in essence" I was looking forward to free loading but they've stopping it" pathetic
I know that my principals would not be altered just because my personal circumstances gave me the opportunity, due to an arbitrary/ illogical rule, to sponge off others'"
You may think my opinions are pathetic , but as you put it ,i dont "SPONGE ", off anyone at the Club , never have done , i probably contribute much more than you do to the Clubs Coffers .
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| Has anyone had a look round the town recently? There are not many 60-65 year olds still in full time employment or a huge number living off a two thirds final salary headmasters pension either at 63-64.
I would say the move would price out a few more loyal fans. All in my humble opinion of course.
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| It should go off whether you are retired and on a state pension or not IMHO, if you are 61 and still working then you should pay the new rate, unless you are on income support due to low wages and then we should make an allowance.
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| 'Excuse me sir before I sell you a ticket/let you in can you show me proof of age with a photograph, now I need proof of income, do you have a current wage slip together with a bank statement, are you on income support and are actively seeking employment etc'
Concessions too cheap - we all agree, yet the average 62 yo will have more disposable income than a 28 year old with 2 kids or a 18 year old in FT education, so you have to put your stake in the ground somewhere.
The problem we have is that we do not make the ST affordable in todays climate for many, sell them at £10 a week for 5 months and they suddenly become affordable because many people see £10 a week as affordable (£40 a month)
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| Quote ="maurice"'Excuse me sir before I sell you a ticket/let you in can you show me proof of age with a photograph, now I need proof of income, do you have a current wage slip together with a bank statement, are you on income support and are actively seeking employment etc'
Concessions too cheap - we all agree, yet the average 62 yo will have more disposable income than a 28 year old with 2 kids or a 18 year old in FT education, so you have to put your stake in the ground somewhere.
=#FF0000The problem we have is that we do not make the ST affordable in todays climate for many, sell them at £10 a week for 5 months and they suddenly become affordable because many people see £10 a week as affordable (£40 a month)'"
I also tend to think that, if someone wants to pay us money, by whatever means, we should be snatching their hands off. However, administering payments by D/D or S/O have proved a nightmare in the past, (been there, done that etc.) so maybe that's what is holding back the club? (and I'm not just referring to folk cancelling their payments - the banks had a habit of messing them up, and have you tried pursuing a bank over anything?)
I too agree that concession prices have been relatively cheap, (in relation to 'adult' prices) and fully support the increase in 'concession' tickets. It's the change in definition of 'concession' that's annoying me. The principle for me, is that you can't justify a large increase on false premises - i.e. 'Pensioners' are not all over 65, and the other Championship clubs do not use 65 as the base line.
Maybe the 'average' 62 year-old may have more disposable income etc, but the very word 'average' suggests that some have more, and some have less.
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| I really can't see someone buying a ST at full price if they have been getting a concession for the last 2/3 years ,I wouldn't thats for sure and I think its unfair that the club is expecting them to .I reckon the club will loose those ST holders next season .
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| I wouldn't be affected by the proposed increase in the OAP Season ticket, I don't buy one anyway given the shambles of Match Day, but I do think that we should pay a couple of quid extra per match.
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| Personally i think its down to how much you can afford ,the die hard 60-64s will still probably buy season tickets , but may cut back on other ways they support the club financially ,ie draw tickets ,LISA membership , the forcast Comp , and the Poker Nights , its all cash to the club but some may cut back .
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