Littler threw the first punch so the penalty was not for retaliation.

Don't they say that you should "always get your retaliation in first"? On that basis, it could have been argued to be retaliation!!

If you watch the footage of the 8 pointer it was a bad and stupid challenge by Stu Donlan and deserved the penalty.

Also you can't give an 8 pointer for a foul on somebody other than the try scorer.

I think you are certainly biased towards the referees and this fellow was poor tonight. Full stop.....

I often say on here that refs have good games and bad games.

We are partisan watching our team as are fans of other clubs no doubt.

I watch other teams sometimes when Leigh aren't playing and what surprises me is I rarely get annoyed with the referees in those matches.

Refs are bound to make the odd mistake but on balance their mistakes even out.

Gerr oft fence lad.

I think you certainly haven't a clue about the game of Rugby League. The referee on Friday contributed to a very watchable game of RL, he made the odd error as they all do. Your error was in going to watch something you don't understand.

I'm at a loss to see how Friday's ref was bad, or contributed to our defeat. He should be applauded for keeping the game flowing and contributing to the spectacle. As for Leeds scoring from a 'forward' pass, maybe they did. Were all the passes in the marvellous build up to TG's try perfectly 'legitimate'? If we had the luxury of watching the DVD from the correct angles, we would probably spot at least 30 'forward' passes from each side. I personally don't like the number of 'flat/forward' passes we see, but if the ref blew up for them all, we wouldn't get much of a game, would we?

How much slower was the Wigan/Saints game.

Imo we have recently lost out in play offs as we are too honest at the PTB. I would love the game to be played at that pace week in week out, but there is no consistency and thats where the problem lies.

Thaler gave us nowt, and we needed the rub to keep things interesting, Silverwood gave Fev the rub. Would have loved Ganson on Friday.

Thaler is poor. not just last Friday but generally poor. A few weeks ago Thierry Alibert was suspended for awarding a try on the 7th tackle. In the Fev v.Cas cup game Thaler awarded Cas their openening try when clearer the ball grounded a foot short - and stayed there. It was clearly short. Why was he not suspended - for allowing a score when clearly it wasnt.
In the opening three rounds Thaler had Wakefield, his home town club, twice. In both those games he awarded Wakefield 8 consecutive penallties - that's too much of a coincidence, surely. He's poor.

Only awarded Leeds six in total though. Perhaps, as a Wakefield fan, he hates Leeds?

When we get Bentham again opposition fans will remark he is a Leigh supporter.

The idea that refs are biased is silly imo.

Shame we can't find out what Limoux fans think of Warren Turley.

I don't think anyone thinks that he contributed to the defeat. But there were decisions that were wrong.

Good post..He had a good game the problem with some people they want a stop and start game which we have been getting this last few years in the Championship.. The best refs let the game flow like he did Friday he could have given us 20 pens and it would,nt have made any difference we got beat fair n square by CLASS PLAYERS

You talk some cr$p

are you after my job at the Tower ?

Well in that case i will stay away and keep my money to myself.

IMO overall I thought the ref wasn't as bad as some people are stating. There was a few decisions which were questionable but some of that was down to the touch judges. Thaler allowed the game to flow which made for an entertaining spectacle but at the end of the day regardless of who refereed the match we would of lost. Lets just enjoy our lads performance onwards & upwards

Thaler allowed the game to flow because it was a fast attacking free flowing game. Had he had his usuall whistle happy head on it would have been stop start. I have stated three occasion that he made bad mistakes in my opinion. Oh and they weren't in our favour.

I must admit I have seen Thaler have much worse games than this one, but that said He's still a bad un

Missed some forward passes of which one resulted in a Leeds try, in fairness it must be hard for a ref to keep up with Young Athletes at their prime going flat out and whilst trying to keep up keep looking sideways !
When Littler and Bailey started slogging it out (I thought Bailey got a little dig in before it kicked off but so what - thats what RL is lacking at times , that gets the crowd pumped up and the atmosphere rockets !) I'd have thought that try should have stood as it had zero effect on the score or the attack or defence of either team.
So a couple of errors , maybe a few more ?
I'd take that as virtually everyone else on the pitch made a few errors.
He could have blown up for a host of daft penalities but choose to keep the game moving, it actually felt like a RL game I was watching rather than some of the stop / start penalty sessions you sometimes see.

He gave a penalty to Leeds for that incident, so anything that happened after the biff was irrelevant.

Must admit he annoyed me a couple of times but so did the lines men and I reckon if that incident had been in SL the try would have stood and the players put on report ,why let the game carry on if you are just going to deny the try, he should have stopped play right away .Keeping that try would have given the game a more balanced feel to it ,which it most certainly deserved IMO .

He let the game go because he didn't see it, he was following play. It happened under the In Goal TJ's nose, he reported it to the ref; no try penalty to Leeds. Simples.

Still should not have denied the try but put them on report ,isn't that what they do now in SL ,everything goes on report