At the time a defending player was allowed to have one foot over the dead ball line and scoop a moving ball out of play to get a 20m restart. The problem was that the officials deemed, in Turley's case, the ball was stationary which resulted in a drop-out being given.

I think it is stupid rule to penalise a very accurate kick like that. It should be in favour of the defending side if the player with the ball goes into touch. Also it is stopping the game and not letting it flow. The team recieving the ball already have an advantage from the restart so why give them an extra one. After a try or a penalty and the restart is from the middle it should be all sqaure and start again otherwise the restart is not fair.

One of the strangest things i have seen this season was on a Sky game. It was involving Wigan and i think it was George Carmont. Carmont gets tackled and its one of those where the defender falls off him as he hits the ground, he stands up and the Ref, think it was Silverwood, waves play on and Wigan end up scoring. The ref goes to the screen and asks the Video ref to check to make sure the tackle wasnt complete. Luckily it turned out it wasnt but it would have been interesting how they would have restarted the game because Carmont stood up and on the replay the ref could clearly be seen waving play on so what is he meant to do and how would the game have been restarted if he was tackled?

Play the ball from the spot where he was deemed to have been tackled.

If he had been deemed to have been tackled and then got up and moved off the spot instead of playing the ball surley that is a penalty to the defending side?

He said the ref had told him to play on though.

does that matter if it is in the same play? if someone knocks on and is allowed to play on they can go to the VR and pull it back for the knock on as long as another tackle hasn't been made

Not a clue mate, just saying what he wrote, i am not well up on the finer rules of the game, maybe someone will enlighten us.

Surely thats not right on the attacking team. Ref says play on, so you play on and score but then ref goes to video ref and says no Try and penalty to defense.
What can player do to avoid penalty in that situation? He's done nothing wrong and just following instructions.

It would have been restarted with a play at the ball at the location of the original tackle as the attacking play would be within his rights to have carried on running if the referee had waved play on.

Just my view of it not saying im right but you see it all the time where they play on and score then get pulled back for something

If a ref is not sure he will always let them score and it will be wiped off if it is not valid.

and then go back to play the ball or a penalty.?

I would go for the ptb since the player has acted on the ref's instruction and hasn't committed an offence.

I need a little more information about the situation.



Is it Wigan?

But it didn't. There's the skill.

I agree

And me, also quick thinking.

Just been reading up on the rules, and seems to be another rule where if you have your foot and your hand over the line and catch the ball from KO with your other hand then you get a penalty from half way line, and choose which player you want to send off. Its cruel but fair play, it is skillful and great awareness.

You made that up didn't you ?

I didn't. Its right there after the stipulation that the ball when put in the scrum must be in the middle.

Now we know you've made that up.

The ball has to go in to the scrum???