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| Quote ="frankb"Well we are at the LSV. The costs of staging a home game are quite staggering.
Now why are those costs so staggering ? Well you could ask the many people employed by Wigan Council to "run" the LSV so successfully.
Should I ever be elected Prime Minister then I could sort it. I would also ensure that on matchdays the only place where alcohol could be purchased in the Leigh and district area would be at the LSV thus guaranteeing the 4000 average we need to be self sufficient.'"
Leigh has an MP who claims to support sport in the town. He holds surgeries at his constituancy offices every Saturday morning. Everyone has a democratic right to speak to their MP one to one at these surgeries. Now if a load of Leigh Supporters turned up to see him and demanded that he does something about the LSV situation he can not ignore them.
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| Would be a start and is a good idea.
We need fans involvement. Just waiting for something to happen is not going to get us anywhere.
Fans need to act fast. We need money pledges by either sending PM's to Maurice or folk joining LISA.
This is urgent.Please do not sit on your hands today anyone who can afford to PM Maurice.
Lets get our club on a roll again.
We have a week to turn this around we can do it we are Leythers.
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| Frank - thank you very much for this post it is exactly what was needed. I hinted in a recent post that I felt Maurice's idea of a supporters trust was needed.
This takes nothing away whatsoever from LISA which needs to focus on accumulating the multitude of smaller donations that people can afford. We need a tier above that which focuses on those who are prepared to commit to a larger sum of money over a longer period. I am "in" and will PM Maurice immediately.
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| Frank, well done for starting this off. I've made my pledge for three years. Not a fortune by any means, but I've also been 'pledging' three days per week, of my time, for all home matches. It all helps.
Meanwhile, like Frank and Maurice, I implore anyone who can make a commitment, to do so. Obviously, not everyone can make a financial commitment - we all realise that - but maybe some time could be pledged, that could save the club some cost?
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| I'm sure that if anyone could offer to collect lifeline for free, sell programmes for free, steward for free, wash kits for free, play for free, canvas for the lottery for free then it will all help reduce costs or increase income for the club.
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| in that spirit maybe the LSV will let us play there for free!
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| Quote ="maurice"Firstly thanks for your support Frank, but let me clarify my position here. I am not party to discussions taking place with the club, I have been asked if the fans could generate income to share the burden if this consortium are able to progress - I have assured them we will do whatever it takes to support our clubs future existence. I am not party to the details of the clubs financial position, but the word of people I trust is that it is very serious. AT's bankroll these last years is for all to see at Company House, it aint rocket science to realise our running costs and income leave a big gap.
If anyone is able to commit amounts to the fund should it be required then by all means PM me, this needs to be a 3 year commitment and not a one off, I hope smallish one offs , £5 a months etc will be collected via something like the 'save Hilton Park scheme' of a few years ago - LISA could be great for this imho.
The strength of our great club is the passion of its fans - we can make a difference when united and if I can help do that then I would be a proud man.
This isnt a game anymore its a battle for survival and a partneship between fans and business will secure our future.'"
Mo - I've sent you a PM.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"in that spirit maybe the LSV will let us play there for free!'"
That could be a good idea,at least to the end of the season.
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| Quote ="j.c"That could be a good idea,at least to the end of the season.'"
With a ceremonial flyover of pigs after the last game, John
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"With a ceremonial flyover of pigs after the last game, John
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I know mate ,just clutching at straws now.
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"I'm sure that if anyone could offer to collect lifeline for free, sell programmes for free, steward for free, wash kits for free, play for free, canvas for the lottery for free then it will all help reduce costs or increase income for the club.'"
Exactly Michael. Some of the possible roles I was thinking about - but without wishing to knock anybody who does these jobs and gets paid. I must also stress that my the posts for financial/working help are NOT knocking those who 'just' pay to watch/buy programmes/are Lottery membres/buy draw tickets, etc. To those people, obviously your continued help is also esential.
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"I'm sure that if anyone could offer to collect lifeline for free, sell programmes for free, steward for free, wash kits for free, play for free, canvas for the lottery for free then it will all help reduce costs or increase income for the club.'"
Leigh shouldn't be a charity, costs will happen, silly costs must be removed, costs generating profits should be encouraged, volunteers taking away costs encouraged.
Some simple thoughts here, if everyone paid their lottery by DD how much more would generate?
If a laundry offered to wash kit for free, how much would that save?
If either the above happened would it make us better or worse off?
Many hands make the deficit go away, few hands carry big weight.
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| I think its time for a group effort from us all, LISA and the corporate club are already up and running and if fans could donate something to either of these then thats gonna really help.
I suggest that both organisations raise £60000 each and that should ensure the futue of the club up to the end of next season at the very least.
I will speak with the new ceo when its sorted out and arrange a meeting to see how we can help the club.
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| There is bound to be a lot of nonsense spouted about this but it looks to me as if Leigh have been hit with something rather unforseeable and are very unfortunate to be in this position after what has been a fantastic start to the season for them.
I sincerely hope you overcome these issues. I don't like any club going to the wall especially a local outfit who have always given the sport a lot. It's a shame that the deal with the LSV was so unsuitable from what I gather and it would be nice if the powers that be would be more lenient under the circumstances.
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| I think we should divide into two groups, New Widnes fans and New Wigan fans, we'd have Super League rugby next year and isnt really that far from our doorsteps. Whos in?
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"I think its time for a group effort from us all, LISA and the corporate club are already up and running and if fans could donate something to either of these then thats gonna really help.
I suggest that both organisations raise £60000 each and that should ensure the futue of the club up to the end of next season at the very least.
I will speak with the new ceo when its sorted out and arrange a meeting to see how we can help the club.'"
How much does LISA currently generate linda?.
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| Anyone asked the question yet as to why this has been allowed to happen. The club seems to have been run yet again badly. We the fans deserve the answer if we are being asked to provide more.
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| Quote ="Super Mario"Anyone asked the question yet as to why this has been allowed to happen. The club seems to have been run yet again badly. We the fans deserve the answer if we are being asked to provide more.
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For the hundredth time on this board this has happened because our chairmans businesses have collapsed.
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| Quote ="Jimmy85"I think we should divide into two groups, New Widnes fans and New Wigan fans, we'd have Super League rugby next year and isnt really that far from our doorsteps. Whos in?'"
Only as long as we can sit in the away end.
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| No mate, the question is why has the club been allowed to be financed by an individual, because look what happens when it stops
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| Its about extra income, partnership and learning from mistakes.
When the announcement takes place it will provide a great opportunity to at long last get things in place to realise our potential, the LSV agreement again being the top of the list followed by club structures and financial obligations to meet defecits.
I hope LISA and an other can put up £60k each, but the shareholders must each match that, unless you are saying the fans fully fund the club and take 100% ownership?
LISA should get to £35k again quite easily and use that as its members decide, CC can do whatever they do, the other group will have £25k pa min to use as they also decide. If we have a community partnership then £25k pa minimum investments should be the pre req to be a shareholder/director - I am with that 100%. If one group cannot continue the investment then the gap is manageable without the chaos of the past 2 weeks. Transparency is guaranteed, fans are treated as stakeholders by culture and we shut up the bar stool geniuses.
What we have isnt a solution its a stop gap, as I understand it.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Only as long as we can sit in the away end.'"
This is what happens when you leave your computer internet logged on at work.
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| The fans taking 100% surely couldnt work if we were promoted to Super League
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| Quote ="Jimmy85"This is what happens when you leave your computer internet logged on at work.'"
They must have come on looking for the link for 'Le Private' on the Toulouse thread
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