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| SADDO - pi55 off.
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| Quote ="Hey Gringo"Oh and for what it's worth the ref bottled it by not sending tomkins off for kicking out if not at the very least for ten mins!'"
I'd agree but for Sinfield swinging the elbow into Tomkins face in the tackle
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| Think Sinfield didn't try very hard to remove his arm to be honest, after what was put in the paper about Tomkins,thought he could try and get a couple of pens especially the second one,but i'm biased with not feeling any love for Leeds
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| Quote ="itsatry!"Think Sinfield didn't try very hard to remove his arm to be honest, after what was put in the paper about Tomkins,thought he could try and get a couple of pens especially the second one,but i'm biased with not feeling any love for Leeds
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Now known as Leeds cheating Rhinos
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| Quote ="Starbug"I'd agree but for Sinfield swinging the elbow into Tomkins face in the tackle'"
Yes, but from last week we know that this is a legal and acceptable practice.
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| The Leeds flag we were given at Wembley, doesn't seem to be appreciated by my work colleagues.
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| Quote ="reffy"Tackling a player without the ball cannot be a penalty try for the simple reason that the player may have dropped the pass or the pass may have been forward.'"
Hiya Reffy, I am now very confused about this rule. Your comments after the penalty try given to Sheffield seem to contradict with the above??
The Sheffield player may have knocked on in the same way as the Wigan player.
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| You are correct but it was much simpler with the Sheffield one, the VR decided that the player would have touched the ball down.
This recent one throws up too many possibilities for failing to score the try:- forward pass, knock-on, tackled, etc basically it was too far from the tryline to give a penalty try.
It will always be a judgement on the day rather than a hard and fast rule.
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| The word 'cannot' threw me, especially as the pass from the Sheffield player was forward but that cannot be taken into account by the VR, can it?
Your clarification with judgement call was my understanding, the judgement on this being he was unlikely to score, same as the Hill decision and the PT were judgement calls. Of course judgement calls lead to allegations of cheating whenever Scummings is around can't they, due to his dislike of some clubs/fans which becomes transparent with his lack of consistency.
As they say, read the papers.
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| Quote ="reffy"You are correct but it was much simpler with the Sheffield one, the VR decided that the player would have touched the ball down.
This recent one throws up too many possibilities for failing to score the try:- forward pass, knock-on, tackled, etc basically it was too far from the tryline to give a penalty try.
It will always be a judgement on the day rather than a hard and fast rule.'"
so in other words ,make it up as you go along
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| Quote ="Sandy Loner"Thats not cheating its a proffesional (sp) foul. Anyway pies lost happy days.'"
Isn't 'professional foul' just a polite way of saying 'cheat' though?
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| Quote ="1teaminWigan"so in other words ,make it up as you go along'"
Get a dictionary.
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| Quote ="reffy"Get a dictionary.'"
oh dear.
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| Oh dear, another "I know I am right because I always am".
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| If you watch it closely then you will see Danny hurt the knee before contact, he only grabbed the centre as a result of him hurting his knee
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| Quote ="THE EXPERT"If you watch it closely then you will see Danny hurt the knee before contact, he only grabbed the centre as a result of him hurting his knee'"
I think you'll find Danny already had hold of Carmont and 3 strides later he hyperextends his left knee as he is trying to pull Carmont down!!!
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| Quote ="reffy"You are correct but it was much simpler with the Sheffield one, the VR decided that the player would have touched the ball down.
This recent one throws up too many possibilities for failing to score the try:- forward pass, knock-on, tackled, etc=#FF0000 basically it was too far from the tryline to give a penalty try. It will always be a judgement on the day rather than a hard and fast rule.'"
So its ok to cheat if you are not near your line
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| Maguire like Paul cheated by tackling a player without the ball. Different video ref and different outcome.
Saw an aussie ref give Leigh a penalty try when a Widnes player took a leigh player out 20 yards from the line in Jan 1982 in the snow, thought he was right then and think the pies should have had one Sunday - glad they didnt
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| Quote ="Starbug"So its ok to cheat if you are not near your line
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It is safer.
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| Quote ="THE EXPERT"If you watch it closely then you will see Danny hurt the knee before contact, he only grabbed the centre as a result of him hurting his knee'"
Oh yea thats right he hung on for dear life for as long as he could so he wouldn't go down and hurt it even more Have a word with yourself
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| QUESTION FOR A REF ?
Since when was is acceptable to kick a player in Rugby League ?
IMO immediate red card .
And if the RFL disciplinary have anything about them ,they should ban Joel.
And did any body else here the classic quote from Phil " The Pie " Clarke ,he did,nt kick him to hard pricless
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| Halibut bottled that one, it should have been a red card, Clarke should get a red card every week for his drivel.
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| Quote ="reffy"Halibut bottled that one, it should have been a red card, Clarke should get a red card every week for his drivel.'"
Surely then , Sinfield should also have had one , for ' striking out ' and prior to that for swinging the elbow in Tomkins face ?
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| Quote ="reffy"Halibut bottled that one, it should have been a red card, Clarke should get a red card every week for his drivel.'"
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