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| Quote ="ian c"Well said that man Paul is an out and out Leyther and always will be lets get behind him and the team and maybe we can get out of this mess.'"
What the hell has being a Leyther got to do with his coaching skills? Its nice that daddy gave him the job - sorry, I meant "that he convinced the board of his coaching skills" - but he isn't up to the mark and never has been. His record of causing disturbances in the dressing room should speak for itself.
If he was that much of a Leyther then he would have walked out of the job and handed it to someone that could actually do it.
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"What the hell has being a Leyther got to do with his coaching skills? Its nice that daddy gave him the job - sorry, I meant "that he convinced the board of his coaching skills" - but he isn't up to the mark and never has been. His record of causing disturbances in the dressing room should speak for itself.
If he was that much of a Leyther then he would have walked out of the job and handed it to someone that could actually do it.'"
Utter garbage
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| Quote ="DemonUK"
I understand that theres one player we were going to sign for this season and next season, and both times, at the last minute he has pulled out due to undisclosed 'goings on' at the top.'"
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Dont beleive all the nonsense thats talked about, the only goings on at the top in recent weeks has been to persuade one of the worlds most respected coaches to come and manage us. I think you will find the said player joined someone else for more money?
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"What the hell has being a Leyther got to do with his coaching skills? Its nice that daddy gave him the job - sorry, I meant "that he convinced the board of his coaching skills" - but he isn't up to the mark and never has been. His record of causing disturbances in the dressing room should speak for itself.
If he was that much of a Leyther then he would have walked out of the job and handed it to someone that could actually do it.'"
well said Nik.......
you can not run a sporting team on sentiment!!!! thats it!!! end of!!!!
and if we do then Leigh deserves what it gets ......
and yes i am a born and bred leyther and thats why its hurting ......
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Utter garbage'"
Which bits are utter garbage and why?
Rowley has split the dressing room under at least two other coaches - documented
Rowley may have the badges but doesn't have the skills - look at our position.
Rowley walked into a job he couldn't do and still can't - again, look at our position
As long as daddy is in charge, Paul will be pulling his strings.
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| Quote ="thudder"No whats disgusting is a guy who is relying on the fact thats he`s a Leyther that everything will be ok????
Its a very fine line between hero and zero?????
Paul was and always will be one of the best hookers this club as ever had !!!!!!!
BUT,,,aka John Woods that doesnt mean they will be good coaches?!?!?
And being a TRUE leyther means diddly we are sinking fast .....and if hes not up to it hes not up to it ...thats that?!?!?!?'"
Agree ,it`s the same scenario that brought our club down Tony Anderson was our hero but they kept him too long when everyone realised he was no good.He signed all his mates and most of them sat about spending some of the time playing cards instead of training and he had no man managment. They even gave him another contract and our hero just turned into zero ,it was sad as he never comes near the club now.
If he gets you relegated will the same happen to him I hope not ,he should have let Neil Kelly do the job he was brought in to do. Nobody is going to tell me Rowley is a better coach than Neil Kelly.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"I just hope I'm not in a tight spot or a sinking ship with you.'"
I wouldnt be in a sinking ship because i would have a skipper who knows how to sail it !!!!! not a local lad because "he`s a TRUE leyther""
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"
If he gets you relegated will the same happen to him I hope not ,he should have let Neil Kelly do the job he was brought in to do. Nobody is going to tell me Rowley is a better coach than Neil Kelly.'"
Yeah... but Kellys not a Leyther.
Its a good job Basil is an adopted one
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"Which bits are utter garbage and why?
Rowley has split the dressing room under at least two other coaches - documented
Rowley may have the badges but doesn't have the skills - look at our position.
Rowley walked into a job he couldn't do and still can't - again, look at our position
As long as daddy is in charge, Paul will be pulling his strings.'"
The split in the dressing room didn`t just happen at your club it hapened at Fax too ,he trained apart from the team on his own it got that bad .Even his Leigh "mates" that he traveled with used to "forget" to bring him back home. He was a good hooker though but just a big baby.
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"Which bits are utter garbage and why?
Rowley has split the dressing room under at least two other coaches - documented
Rowley may have the badges but doesn't have the skills - look at our position.
Rowley walked into a job he couldn't do and still can't - again, look at our position
As long as daddy is in charge, Paul will be pulling his strings.'"
1), Which coaches the only Leigh coach Paul fell out with was D Abram which just about every other player did in that SL season
2), Our position is no differnent to when he started, how many games as he been in charge of and hasnt he had to face Fax 3 times?
3), He got offerred an interim position whilst we recruited one of the best ever coaches in SL.
As for your flippant last comment Mr A Thomas is in charge and makes the decisons.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"1), Which coaches the only Leigh coach Paul fell out with was D Abram which just about every other player did in that SL season
2), Our position is no differnent to when he started, how many games as he been in charge of and hasnt he had to face Fax 3 times?
3), He got offerred an interim position whilst we recruited one of the best ever coaches in SL.
As for your flippant last comment Mr A Thomas is in charge and makes the decisons.'"
Wrong . Come on facebook chat Ste
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| It is unfortunate that good players don't always make good coaches. Also if a team does badly the person responsible is the coach.
You only have too look back over the years at every rugby club that coaches that do poorly move on. They may be sucessful elsewhere but its isn't a guaranteed job for life.
Time to move on.
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| I will look forward to myou telling him that to his face at the next LISA meeting he is at
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| Isn't it fair to say that you've had more than your fair share of crocked players this year? Didn't seem to be much cover though whether it be from within or loan signings. If there are no players/money available is that the fault of the coaching staff?
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| Again somebody talking sense but your wasting your time on here the knives are out.
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| Knives out is the standard practice on here though. Some have even got the knives out for someone who isn't even here yet
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| In todays Lge Express Rowley states that he is looking for a "long apprenticeship" under Neil Kelly and then Ian Millward. In the same paper Kelly says he has had nothing to do with any coaching for some time now.
Why then if Rowley says himself that he is not yet "head coach" materiel was the decision taken to remove Kelly from coaching and let Rowley fly solo? Doesn't add up to me!
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| You need to know the history of Kelly since he was at Munster to know the facts, his health has suffered (well documented elsewhere) and as a result the change had to be made.
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| Millward must like Rowley with him staying on as his no.2 or will he have been told Rowley must stay ,cant see it myself dont think Millward would have accepted head coach under those circumstances he does'nt strike me as someone to be told who /who not he will have on his coaching staff after all AT has been after him for ages so i would think Millward has come under his terms surely.Plus other posters have stated that it would'nt matter who coached us at the moment with the players we have so getting rid of Rowley is not the answer its good loan players we need.
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"What the hell has being a Leyther got to do with his coaching skills? Its nice that daddy gave him the job - sorry, I meant "that he convinced the board of his coaching skills" - but he isn't up to the mark and never has been. His record of causing disturbances in the dressing room should speak for itself.
If he was that much of a Leyther then he would have walked out of the job and handed it to someone that could actually do it.'" Ihave not said anywhere he is a good coach but we still need to get behind him and the team at this moment there is nothing else we can do
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| I Agree that we all need to get behind the team and the staff at this time but WE NEED SOME LOAN SIGNINGS.This will boost the team no end and hopefully get us out of this mess.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"glad you brought that up fred , people do need to know the true facts'"
Stuff them full of facts Keith and it wouldnt give a damn, people believe what they want to the truth is just a nuisance. They ought to ask the people who are in the know (the players) about things that go on not 'a mate down the pub' who knows nothing but has a private grudge and is only too willing to spread the brown sticky stuff.
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| YOU CAN NOT RUN A SPORTING TEAM ON SENTIMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROWLEY WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A GREAT HOOKER FOR THIS CLUB!!!!!!!
JOHN WOODS DIDNT MAKE A GOOD COACH!!!!!!!!!!!
these i believe are all facts???? are they not?????
thats all people are trying to make a point of??????
At this point in time the posistion we are in is one he hasnt got the experience to get us out of??? if kellys health was that much of a worry then why was he given the job ...its baffling ????and that is worrying everyone Fred????
I for one completely understand that.....
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| Quote ="thudder"YOU CAN NOT RUN A SPORTING TEAM ON SENTIMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROWLEY WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A GREAT HOOKER FOR THIS CLUB!!!!!!!
JOHN WOODS DIDNT MAKE A GOOD COACH!!!!!!!!!!!
these i believe are all facts???? are they not?????
thats all people are trying to make a point of??????
At this point in time the posistion we are in is one he hasnt got the experience to get us out of??? if kellys health was that much of a worry then why was he given the job ...its baffling ????and that is worrying everyone Fred????
I for one completely understand that.....
'" So if Rowley isnt up to the job and Kelly not well enough what do we do ? i do agree with you about running a club on sentiment but at the moment i thing all us fans can do is get behind the coach and the players and just hope we stay up till Millward gets here.
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