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| Quote ="Moz 'Alternative Ulster' "There are about 3 people barred from our ground as far I know. I think one of them is that [size=150ginger[/size lad who [size=150used to have the drum [/sizeicon_confused.gif'"
So - which reason did they ban him for??
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| Quote ="Moz 'Alternative Ulster' "There are about 3 people barred from our ground as far I know. I think one of them is that ginger lad who used to have the drum
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Glad to see you have some sense
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| Quote ="Moz 'Alternative Ulster' "There are about 3 people barred from our ground as far I know. I think one of them is that ginger lad who used to have the drum
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I didn't know Webster played the drums
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| Bar his try it's about all he could play on Thursday with Watto going great guns against him!
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| How does this sound?
The top four rows of any stand should be advertised as an area where standing is allowed.
Anyone seen standing and being obviously the worse for drink or being abusive is told to sit down.
Use a three strike rule during the day with the drunk or abusive culprits.
No one likes having their day ruined either by stewards or idiot fans.
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| zero tolerance sounds better, sod this politically correct malarky, if it was a standing area there wouldnt be seats there, I bet if some drunken yob fell down them they would be all for sueing the LSV.
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| soz u lot the reason the people were ejected is because the stewards found knifes on them and that is a fact so lets not start havin a pop at the stewards for doin there job
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| Quote ="phil60"soz u lot the reason the people were ejected is because the stewards found knifes on them and that is a fact so lets not start havin a pop at the stewards for doin there job'"
Really????
Reckon your ill informed or lieing there......
NO knives where found....
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| Quote ="leythdave"Really????
Reckon your ill informed or lieing there......
NO knives where found....'"
Also heard a steward told Widnes fans they found 20 cans of larger in a bin bag under flags!
Well that was me mates bag and they asked me if they could look, found nothing and actually apoligised for any inconvinience! Yet for some reason 20mins later they were telling people the same bag was full of cans
So wouldn't be suprised if some mentioned knives tbh! A 15yr old lad also got accused of assaulting a steward (needless to say this only happened once he was out of view of his mates!).
All happening after half time.. was a bit perculiar I must admit!
Some of the LSV staff were great though and were talking about rugby etc and so on! Others however thought they were dealing wth Millwall fans (repeatingly saying 'it's like this in all football grounds')!
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| Quote ="Walt Mooney Fan Club"Genuine question - to both sides:
Was this match segregated? If not, why do those Widnes fans that want to stand not buy tickets for the North Stand (terrace) were they would be allowed to stand up all game without a moments bother?
2nd Question - to Widnes fans:
If your 'hardcore' prefer to stand, why was the Stobart made all-seater? Why not a 'home' terrace? Were the people of Widnes not consulted over various options for the format of their new stadium, as the people of Leigh were? Does your multi-millionaire chairman not have enough clout with the council to do summat about it? They sorted out the re-branded seating quickly enough - how long would it take to rip a section of seating out, and put up a few crush barriers?'"
To 1 - a few fans asked this at the game (no was answer) plus we got allocated a stand so couldn't buy for anywhere else!
The main problem many had was fans were allowed to stand at the back for the 1st half yet for some reason 5mins inton 2nd (again after money hit the tills) 'the force' came over saying sit down or get out and even then it started with 'you've all got cans get out etc etc'!
2 - I'm not sure what happened but I still can't belive new grounds can be built NOT all seated after the events of 15th April 1989! Yes there may not be as many fans at Rugby compared to then, but it's not exactly making sure it doesn't happen again! For that reason I am glad stobart is all seater, plus also more attractive venue for internationals aswell! to rip seats out you'd need to restructure the whole stand and get a safety certificate re-issued now thatw ould take longer then a few paint tins!
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| Quote ="J20"To 1 - a few fans asked this at the game (no was answer) plus we got allocated a stand so couldn't buy for anywhere else!
The main problem many had was fans were allowed to stand at the back for the 1st half yet for some reason 5mins inton 2nd (again after money hit the tills) 'the force' came over saying sit down or get out and even then it started with 'you've all got cans get out etc etc'!
2 - I'm not sure what happened but I still can't belive new grounds can be built NOT all seated after the events of 15th April 1989! Yes there may not be as many fans at Rugby compared to then, but it's not exactly making sure it doesn't happen again! For that reason I am glad stobart is all seater, plus also more attractive venue for internationals aswell! to rip seats out you'd need to restructure the whole stand and get a safety certificate re-issued now thatw ould take longer then a few paint tins!'"
And how illinformed are you? the stand was actually designed for all seats bu they were never put in as a poll was made and as a result of the fans voting, the stand was left for all standing, it is about two days work to put in seats as all the relevant holes etc ar in place, and as for a safety certificate do you really think the council wouldnt allocate one to a stadium they are part owners of? get real sonny -by the way the Halliwell Jones doesnt do to badly despite having a standng area, you really are a bad troll
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| Quote ="imleythbenter"And how illinformed are you? the stand was actually designed for all seats bu they were never put in as a poll was made and as a result of the fans voting, the stand was left for all standing, it is about two days work to put in seats as all the relevant holes etc ar in place, and as for a safety certificate do you really think the council wouldnt allocate one to a stadium they are part owners of? get real sonny -by the way the Halliwell Jones doesnt do to badly despite having a standng area, you really are a bad troll
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Erm that was relating to comment saying Widnes having a terraced stand? I.e you'd have to take the seats out and then put relevant barries up etc. Not trolling when about widnes is it? Stop being a mug and have a read 1st eh!
Thanks anyway!
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| My abject apologies but your diction isn't the best, and the should be a clue not to mtake the post too seriously, but you have so another notch on my keyboard is made.
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| Fair enough! Yea sorry getting confused (on other boards people just pick one line and moan!lol)! is a good sign! Haha.
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| 'J20' raises a few good points there IMO, not just sticking up for him as he is WIdnes either. I recall a bin bag being mentioned by a handful of stewards, and to my knowledge (I could be wrong) it was searched and nothing incriminating was found, just flags and bits of newspaper? I think the major upset amongst the lads stood up came from the stewards chucking out a few people needlessly, 'just for being stood'. As youa ll saw there were at least 30 or so Widnes fans stood up, and to throw a handful out is hypocrisy in action. No one was being aggressive or inciting trouble, or necking cans as far as I can remember. As priorr to KO, a few lads were askesd to empty their can content into plastic pint glasses. Some people get that yellow uniform on and they start to think they are some kind 'dictator like' figure. Some of them can be like that at Widnes too.
As for the dullard who suggested Widnes carry knives, sort your head out mate this is the 21st century. We are rugby fans, not the 'ICF' or the chelsea headhunters
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| Well here,s my 4 penneth.
First a handful of fans in the South Stand who wanted to stand up and blocking no-ones view are getting a lot of flack. They weren,t foul mouthed they weren,t blocking anyone,s view, they weren,t putting anyone at risk. How many does the stand hold ? and even the stewards could see they weren,t bothering anyone apart from them.
Had the stand been at capacity, had they been violent and abusive, and had they been threatening anyone, I might have a different opinion but this thread is well over the top as far as I,m concerned.
Seems to me these fans deserve an apology.
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| Quote ="frankb"Well here,s my 4 penneth.
First a handful of fans in the South Stand who wanted to stand up and blocking no-ones view are getting a lot of flack. They weren,t foul mouthed they weren,t blocking anyone,s view, they weren,t putting anyone at risk. How many does the stand hold ? and even the stewards could see they weren,t bothering anyone apart from them.
Had the stand been at capacity, had they been violent and abusive, and had they been threatening anyone, I might have a different opinion but this thread is well over the top as far as I,m concerned.
Seems to me these fans deserve an apology.'"
It was the abuse they gave the stewards that was the main problem.....
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| Maybe your stewards were upset that the Widnes away kit made their spectators stand out more than your 'official' stewards jackets!!
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| Quote ="dazednconfused"Maybe your stewards were upset that the Widnes away kit made their spectators stand out more than your 'official' stewards jackets!!'"
You should try your hand at comedy mate.
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| Quote ="imleythbenter"And how illinformed are you? the stand was actually designed for all seats bu they were never put in as a poll was made and as a result of the fans voting, the stand was left for all standing, it is about two days work to put in seats as all the relevant holes etc ar in place, and as for a safety certificate do you really think the council wouldnt allocate one to a stadium they are part owners of? get real sonny -by the way the Halliwell Jones doesnt do to badly despite having a standng area, you really are a bad troll
'" I'm sure this is right, but it was put out that the real reason was because the RFL changed its rules for SL from a 10,000 capacity stadium to 12,000 so Leigh asked for a redesign. Not that it made any difference as the RFL ......nope, what I was going to say would be libellous
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| The rules can't have been changed to keep Leigh out. The RFL refused to acknowledge the LSV existed and wanted to inspect Hilton Park for suitability for 2009. Thats how .............. they are and will continue to be.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"The rules can't have been changed to keep Leigh out. The RFL refused to acknowledge the LSV existed and wanted to inspect Hilton Park for suitability for 2009. Thats how .............. they are and will continue to be.'" I'm sure originally 10,000 capacity was the threshold but they increased it to 12,000 and I remember one of your directors saying so.
I agree it was irrelevant anyway given what happened subsequently.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"The rules can't have been changed to keep Leigh out. The RFL refused to acknowledge the LSV existed and wanted to inspect Hilton Park for suitability for 2009. Thats how .............. they are and will continue to be.'"
yet Sky do sex wee's over the LSV, it is by far the best and easiest RL ground they have ever been too and worked in. FACT !!!
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| Quote ="manxviking"I'm sure originally 10,000 capacity was the threshold but they increased it to 12,000 and I remember one of your directors saying so.
I agree it was irrelevant anyway given what happened subsequently.'"
The variance is/was absorbed in the North Stand Terrace which has not changed in design.
Originally, only the bottom half of the terrace was to be used; a temporary herras fence had been erected halfway up and the crush barriers excluded. However, not long before the stadium was complete it was decided to open up the whole terrace and complete the barriers.
In theory the terrace could hold over 5000, taking the capacity to something like 14000 but this far exceeds the stadium planning permission. It would be 40% greater than the associated infrastructure had allowed for.
What the Corpy have set the current limit to I do not know (bear in mind not all of the infrastructure and work on the village is complete).
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