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| Quote ="leyther1"Agree completely. Hobson's the only forward that gives us steel and a bit of niggle. People are quick to jump on every penalty he gives away but don't realise how many we get back from opposition forwards he's wound up. Perfect example is the Salford game - OK Hobbo gave posession away a couple of times, but the amount of penalties we got back from Cashmere alone was more than worth it.
Obviously there's work to be done in channelling the aggression so as to avoid red/yellow cards etc, which do cost the team much dearer than a couple of ordinary penalties. And I don't think there's any excuse for ill-discipline in talking back to refs etc, which Hobbo was penalised for on Sunday. But we've had much worse offenders in the past who've been forgiven far more easily or even encouraged by the speccies but IMHO weren't half as effective in their position or role within the team.
At the end of the day he may not be a worldbeater but apart from occasional brainstorms he generally does his job and takes a lot of the more physical pressure off our younger forwards, which we really need. I'd much rather we work on his discipline and persevere than let a very young pack get bullied by other teams' "thugs" week in week out.'" i agree
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| Quote ="Mr Mad"sorry you feel like that but i would rather have a team of local talented (i believe anyway ) lads who will give their all for the club rather than an australian journey man who dosent give a dam about the club tkl being a good example for one, and dont forget to give them TIME'"
I agree with everything you have written.
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| not all our overseas and big name signings have been a waste of money such as geoff clarke, adam bristow, heath cruckshank to name a few.
i agree with a local youth policy but i would still like to see overseas signings of the calibre of clarke and bristow. it is upto the club to try and ensure these are the right signings.
the balance needs to be right.
i dont need a leigh season ticket to watch committed young enthusiastic players giving 100 % every week i just need to go the east and miners.
i still desire to watch profeesional players with a high skill level and the young local talent could learn a great deal from them
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| Quote ="soldiers field"not all our overseas and big name signings have been a waste of money such as geoff clarke, adam bristow, heath cruckshank to name a few.
i agree with a local youth policy but i would still like to see overseas signings of the calibre of clarke and bristow. it is upto the club to try and ensure these are the right signings.
the balance needs to be right.
i dont need a leigh season ticket to watch committed young enthusiastic players giving 100 % every week i just need to go the east and miners.
i still desire to watch profeesional players with a high skill level and the young local talent could learn a great deal from them'" i totally agree but select ambitious players who still want to achieve something,and can compliment and add to what is happening at leigh there is no point in paying a over the hill player who really doesnt want to be at the club to sit in the treatment room no young player will learn owt from that
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| Some and I reiterate SOME overseas 'blood' in any team gives them strength in experience and ethos, we at Leigh have been lucky over the years in having perhaps more good overseas player (yes there have been mistakes) than most.
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| Our import will add that.
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| Quote ="maurice"Our import will add that.'" cant wait for him to arrive
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| Darren Lockitsname won,t be coming this season.
Doesn,t matter, if u are going to have a sport whose governing body has already decided that any club inside the heartlands,must stay outside where you might realistiically might be despite success on the field, whats the point ?
Should any club develop their local talent to such an extent, they will eventually lose their best prospects to a Non relagation club ,unless that club offers enough money to keep that promising prospect to stick with their current club for a good percentage of their playing days.
Tough one isn,t it ? A million and a half plus for a Non relegation club to fund their signings and how much for those clubs outside?
What a brilliant ridiculous idea franchising is, to ensure mediocrity for most ,at the expense of a few
I think we have some good uns but we won,t be able to keep them.
There isn,t even the benefit of transfer fees anymore. All a club needs to do is pay up a contract.
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| Quote ="frankb"Darren Lockitsname won,t be coming this season.
Doesn,t matter, if u are going to have a sport whose governing body has already decided that any club outside the heartlands,must stay outside where you might realistiically might be despite success on the field, whats the point ?
Should any club develop their local talent to such an extent, they will eventually lose their best prospects to a Non relagation club ,unless that club offers enough money to keep that promising prospect to stick with their current club for a good percentage of their playing days.
Tough one isn,t it ? A million and a half plus for a Non relegation club to fund their signings and how much for those clubs outside?
What a brilliant ridiculous idea franchising is, to ensure mediocrity for most ,at the expense of a few
I think we have some good uns but we won,t be able to keep them.
There isn,t even the benefit of transfer fees anymore. All a club needs to do is pay up a contract.
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They dont even do that Frank , they just tap up the player and wait
You then have a choice , either let him go and get an academy friendly in recompense or continue playing an unhappy dismotivated player till his contract runs out
A no win situation
Just seen on the Fax site that they are not running a reserve side this season despite getting to and winning GF's in the last 2 seasons
They dont see it as worthwhile , no doubt they will ressurect a team in 2011 when franchises are back up for grabs
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| Quote ="frankb"Darren Lockitsname won,t be coming this season.
Doesn,t matter, if u are going to have a sport whose governing body has already decided that any club inside the heartlands,must stay outside where you might realistiically might be despite success on the field, whats the point ?
Should any club develop their local talent to such an extent, they will eventually lose their best prospects to a Non relagation club ,unless that club offers enough money to keep that promising prospect to stick with their current club for a good percentage of their playing days.
Tough one isn,t it ? A million and a half plus for a Non relegation club to fund their signings and how much for those clubs outside?
What a brilliant ridiculous idea franchising is, to ensure mediocrity for most ,at the expense of a few
I think we have some good uns but we won,t be able to keep them.
There isn,t even the benefit of transfer fees anymore. All a club needs to do is pay up a contract.
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YAY!!!!!
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Maden, Donlan, McConnell, Hobson, Smith and Watson are all experienced in their own right, while the likes of Taylor, Hill and Alstead have all been around the first team for a long while as well.
Could agree that we need maybe another 'leader' to take the pressure off Watson, but I think McConnell and Smith can both fill that role when they come back from injury.'"
aye Experienced, but hardly a 'match winner'.
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| Quote ="frankb"
Doesn,t matter, if u are going to have a sport whose governing body has already decided that any club inside the heartlands,must stay outside where you might realistiically might be despite success on the field, whats the point ?
i dont agree, i fully believe tha the door has not been shut and i still believe leigh can get back into the top flight.
it is upto the club, the players the fans to put us in a position were the next licence cannot be refused.
i think union will ensure celtic fail and wakey and cas without new grounds will be in danger in 3 years time. lets stop moaning about lewis and try and take charge of our own destiny.lets give him no choice.
for a start we need to be ahead of widnes in the pecking order
i am 47 and do not want to watch this standard for the rest of my life
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| Quote ="soldiers field"
i dont agree, i fully believe tha the door has not been shut and i still believe leigh can get back into the top flight.
it is upto the club, the players the fans to put us in a position were the next licence cannot be refused.
i think union will ensure celtic fail and wakey and cas without new grounds will be in danger in 3 years time. lets stop moaning about lewis and try and take charge of our own destiny.lets give him no choice.
for a start we need to be ahead of widnes in the pecking order
i am 47 and do not want to watch this standard for the rest of my life'"
You are right, in my opinion, 'sf'. However, when you are older than 47, you become more cynical with age, and experience. The older you get, the dizzier you become, watching goalposts moving about! My money, (if I had any, in the current economic climate) would be on the RFL, giving the "we're getting a new stadium" brigade a few years extra, because of the 'credit crunch'. In other words, the criteria may just change again!
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| Quote ="Alan"You are right, in my opinion, 'sf'. However, when you are older than 47, you become more cynical with age, and experience. The older you get, the dizzier you become, watching goalposts moving about! My money, (if I had any, in the current economic climate) would be on the RFL, giving the "we're getting a new stadium" brigade a few years extra, because of the 'credit crunch'. In other words, the criteria may just change again! :wink:'"
Without a doubt , I cannot see them dropping anybody down in 2012
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| The proverbial goalposts will definitely be moved by time the new franchises come around again. The only scenario I could see a club lose its franchise is if they go into administration....but then again I wouldn't hold my breath.
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| I to think the goal post will move, but I also agree with what SF said lets worry about us not anybody else. If we get our act together, pulling in crowds, are seen as a club that develops players, good links with local community, playing attractive rugby in a well organised facility, could they refuse us? [iDon’t answer that![/i
I've said it before we need to somehow make it so they want us, we have to be better than what they currently have.
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| Quote ="POPMAN"The proverbial goalposts will definitely be moved by time the new franchises come around again. The only scenario I could see a club lose its franchise is if they go into administration....but then again I wouldn't hold my breath.'"
You never know - W***n, Saints, Warrington, Salford may all go bust. (not that I would wish that on any of them, not even W***n!) But then the RFL would argue that we are geographically too close to Catalans, (NSW) Crusaders, and 'The Mighty' Quin(s) to qualify!
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| Quote ="Alan"You never know - W***n, Saints, Warrington, Salford may all go bust. (not that I would wish that on any of them, not even W***n!) But then the RFL would argue that we are geographically too close to Catalans, (NSW) Crusaders, and 'The Mighty' Quin(s) to qualify!
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| First der vas de sooper leeg
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