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| Why does my stupid phone keep missing words out.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"That's what I would expect, but surely only 1 team would drop out, 2 at the most, perhaps the second one via a playoff.
But who is even going to be in this third tier...need some extra teams fast!'"
Currently 37 in three tiers how many more were you looking for?
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| why shouldn't the teams that generate the most money and attendance get paid more? As it stands there isn't enough money to go around so how are they going spread it even further.
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| Quote ="westridingeagle"Currently 37 in three tiers how many more were you looking for?
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Well 34 when Swinton, Bradford and London go pop
No, I had my maths wrong. Having said that it would probably make sense to have two conferences of 10 on a regional basis below the 24 so that you would have more rivalries and less travel...
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| Why should any monies coming into the game not be shared more evenly starting with the Community Clubs after all most if not all start playing Rugby at those clubs, that is where the most amount of money be paid instead, If clubs cant generate enough money to stand alone they should learn how to and yes that includes Leigh.
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| Quote ="FredParky"Why should any monies coming into the game not be shared more evenly starting with the Community Clubs after all most if not all start playing Rugby at those clubs, that is where the most amount of money be paid instead, If clubs cant generate enough money to stand alone they should learn how to and yes that includes Leigh.'"
I would happy if super league was cut to 12 and more money was given to BARLA to distribute but its not. Its like saying why should some clubs try so hard to expand the game and grow when others are just happy to receive the money and become quids in.
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| Quote ="dubairl"I would happy if super league was cut to 12 and more money was given to BARLA to distribute but its not. Its like saying why should some clubs try so hard to expand the game and grow when others are just happy to receive the money and become quids in.'"
The problem the game has is we do not have 12 of those clubs you speak of, so if you enforced your criteria you would currently have Leeds, Wigan and Warrington and possibly Hull and Saints, you then have Cats over the water - a SL of 6 would be difficult to promote
What we need to do as a sport is grow the elite and create a pathway to that elite, is this the best way? Its certainly a huge improvement on what we had but I have advocated two Full Time tens since 2002 so I firmly believe in that structure as the platform to create a genuine elite with a second tier to grow from and fall into as circumstances change.
For our club this breathes life into us, and if what has been muted reference funding materialises, we realise we must be full time to hit our goals and those of our sponsors.
2014 looks like being the most important in this clubs history imo
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| I am still worried that even though two super league teams will be relegated,the top super league teams will get greedy and expect more of the cash pot.One of there arguments was that they did not agree to championship teams getting more of a share,so how do they expect them to be competitive.I do not want to see the same thing happening again when we had promotion and relegation where the relegated team had an unfair advantage.
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| Funding arrangements are announced next week I think. But 2.4 million is the share of the 2 relegated clubs. Some I reckon will go to them in the form of a parachute payment. As for the rest who knows.
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| I heard that the two relegated clubs and the top two in the championship this year wil get around 300000
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| I see the Wakey fans are trying to get a wave of anti new structure going on their forum. Very selfish and narrow minded IMO.
Talking about a rally against it.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"I see the Wakey fans are trying to get a wave of anti new structure going on their forum. Very selfish and narrow minded IMO.
Talking about a rally against it.'"
Same anti feeling in the Bradford forum. Lets face it 2 clubs are going to lose their 1.2 million sky income in 2015. Even though they haven't yet officially stated how the 2 will be decided. Wakey and Bradford will be amongst the battle along with possibly Cas and London and I wouldn't rule out Widnes and HKR either
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| Quote ="TV BOY"I see the Wakey fans are trying to get a wave of anti new structure going on their forum. Very selfish and narrow minded IMO.
Talking about a rally against it.'"
We preferred the 2 up 2 down.
No issue with promotion/relegation, its this confusing new rules we don't like.
I have always said I like P&R. Give other teams a fighting chance.
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| Sorry Wildthing but what exactly is confusing? Serious question.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Sorry Wildthing but what exactly is confusing? Serious question.'"
The concept and middle 8? and not knowing full league fixtures at the start of the season.
What's wrong with a straight up 2 up 2 down?
I like P&R, always have.
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| P&R can only work between FT leagues imo, the impact on relegated clubs is as great as that on the promoted. This structure allows a FT second tier for at least 50% of the clubs although I would prefer a FT structure of two tens - which can be funded within the current deals
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| And that way Mo we could start in March and finish in August leaving plenty of time for visits to Benidorm.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"And that way Mo we could start in March and finish in August leaving plenty of time for visits to Benidorm.'"
With 27 fixtures before play offs that would mean a lot of midweek games
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"I heard that the two relegated clubs and the top two in the championship this year wil get around 300000'"
I heard it was the two clubs who reach the grand final share 600,000.
Either way,its good money.
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| Quote ="PNE"I heard it was the two clubs who reach the grand final share 600,000.
Either way,its good money.'"
Can anyone point me to a 'link' that clarifies this? (i.e are the 'top 2' numbers one and two in the Championship table, or the two Grand Finalists, who could, theoretically, be numbers 7 and 8 in the Championship table?)
It would be really good to know this - certainly before the final Championship fixture!
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| Think I heard a while ago that pretty much all the Championship clubs wanted it to be the top two in the league that got the money, which would be the fairest.
I do think this structure was the best option, (would have prefect two full time 10s then a separate competition with all 20 teams in for extra games but that wasn't on offer). Straight P&R didn't work before, it got clubs into too much difficulty frantically trying to get promotion which was too difficult then struggling to stay up and being left in trouble when related again. This new structure allows teams to be promoted but they have to show they're better than the teams they'll be replacing, seems fair enough so long as everyone is full time. It'll allow clubs to grow at a natural pace and get a good guide of what level they're at and what they need to work on to improve instead of going all out and becoming unstable the moment it looks like a weaker team is relegated for their one and only chance at promotion.
I hope there's a decent prize money for the Championship shield though, otherwise it's a bit of a "Well you tried, here's some more games to kill the time" type competition. Would be good if you got the same amount for winning it as finishing somewhere in the bottom 4 of the SL qualifier group, makes the next season more interesting, you'd have 5 teams on equal financial footing competing for 4 places, which makes the Championship a competition worth winning.
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| We seem to have a lot of 'I heard' posts, would any of them like to say who told them or where they heard it?
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| As far as I can see Alan there is no grand final, Im sure Derek Beaumont and Steve Openshaw said that it was supposed to be on league rankings.
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| They did.
But that would mean no games for 5 months and I'd like to see our lads win a playoff game.
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