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| Quote ="Saley2"Great post again and exactly the point nobody is right or wrong its about opinion and the right to express / discuss that'"
And I am just expressing my right to voice my opinion.
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| Quote ="mishmash"Personal - not at all, why would it be?
However, with the comfort of anonymity it's very easy to bemoan and belittle the efforts others are making, secure in the knowledge that no one knows who they really are and could possibly even have some connection with the club whilst using ones anonymity to pass on 'inside' information.
Regardless of what the Prophet says, quite a lot of us know each other personally or at least know 'of' each other and that itself provides it's own 'safety net' when choosing to trust (or not) that poster and whether you think they have a hidden agenda.
Personally I don't trust anyone who chooses to post under a totally anonymous name. If they believe in something so strongly they shouldn't be afraid to put their name to it (as you have done).'"
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| I know you you are a pain in the mouse
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| Mish you had a go at him for posting a very sensible concern he was not attacking anyone nor belittling anyones efforts far from it.
If the club said in an effort to increase gates to 10,000 all fans get in for £1 would you not voice concern over this? Brilliant idea in principle however im sure the maths wouldnt add up at the end. Just because a few at the top may think its a good idea does not gaurentee success!
As trevor tells us now we are all "shareholders" we should be raising concerns were applicable and getting behind ideas that have sound well thought out figures behind them!
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| Quote ="mishmash"And I am just expressing my right to voice my opinion.'"
Course you are luv , no matter how wrong you might be
Now get back t washin up
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| This kinda thing makes more sense for Fev to do this offer for 'away fans' with season tickets, quite a few Yorkshire clubs....8
As for us, depending on how clubs are doing at the time - who will bring more than 200 fans ??
Fax, Fev, Swinton ????
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| Here is a point to consider for the people who support this idea and think it will work.
Why is this attractive to other clubs? because it is great value for money £10 for an adult and child to get in is brilliant!!
Why then do you have to be a season ticket holder to take advantage? why not open the offer up to everyone?
All the local superleague/chanmpionship clubs supporters could then take advantage not just their ST holders as well as the Leigh public? would this not have a big impact on our gate?
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| Quote ="Saley2"Here is a point to consider for the people who support this idea and think it will work.
Why is this attractive to other clubs? because it is great value for money £10 for an adult and child to get in is brilliant!!
Why then do you have to be a season ticket holder to take advantage? why not open the offer up to everyone?
All the local superleague/chanmpionship clubs supporters could then take advantage not just their ST holders as well as the Leigh public? would this not have a big impact on our gate?'"
Because it needs to be controlled in same way, and being a season ticket holder is the tried and trusted way to do that. Don't forget visiting junior season ticket holders have got in for free for years anyway.
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| why does it matt so we can sting the leigh public £18 / £25 for the same privalidge
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| Quote ="Saley2"why does it matt so we can sting the leigh public £18 / £25 for the same privalidge'"
You've lost me there mate? If the offer gets spread throughout the league then I think we should be looking at the positives that it could be a great marketing tool for us to increase our season ticket sales (which I understand can still be bought).
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"This kinda thing makes more sense for Fev to do this offer for 'away fans' with season tickets, quite a few Yorkshire clubs....8
As for us, depending on how clubs are doing at the time - who will bring more than 200 fans ??
Fax, Fev, Swinton ????'"
If they bring 200 at full price, total revenue at average of £17 each = £3400
If £10 each will they bring 340 in order for us to achieve parity? Try no.
Coupled with the fact we would all have to get there early to beat the rush of Leigh fans without season tickets or Touchdown memberships beating down the ticket office door to pay £16-18??
Not even maybe.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Because it needs to be =#FF0000controlled in same way, and being a season ticket holder is the tried and trusted way to do that. Don't forget visiting junior season ticket holders have got in for free for years anyway.'"
Very little control in this Matt , its wide open to ' abuse ' , thats the issue
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| we take 300 away roughly this will not get anybody else to go to away games in my opinion
this is the first time i have challanged an idea from the club why?
because its flawed mate im 99.9% sure it will fail missably and even worse cost us money
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| £5 will not make fans change there mind about travelling away its the extra cost fuel,food drink cant be bothered why people dont go !!
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| Quote ="The Prophet"If they bring 200 at full price, total revenue at average of £17 each = £3400
If £10 each will they bring 340 in order for us to achieve parity? Try no.
Coupled with the fact we would all have to get there early to beat the rush of Leigh fans without season tickets or Touchdown memberships beating down the ticket office door to pay £16-18??
Not even maybe.'"
But would all 340 of those have season tickets? Shouldn't think so, so there's extra money to be made, depending on how the ticket office are 'policing' the offer.
Quote ="Starbug"Very little control in this Matt , its wide open to ' abuse ' , thats the issue'"
See above. There's far more control than saying "all away fans" in which case it's anyone who isn't wearing a Leigh shirt. The alternative would be for each club to issue vouchers to each supporter as was the case with the juniors before this year.
Quote ="Saley2"£5 will not make fans change there mind about travelling away its the extra cost fuel,food drink cant be bothered why people dont go !!'"
The list about Fev's offer seems to suggest it would attract extra people to travel away?
As it is, this thread is certainly in danger of being listed in the dictionary alongside "storm in a teacup" so I suggest the proof will be in the pudding and hopefully the club will be able to analyse how successful it is - the revenue per head in comparison to last season's game against Batley should probably do the job.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Very little control in this Matt , its wide open to ' abuse ' , thats the issue'"
its not abuse if you open it up to everyone including the leigh public if its such a great offer that will incorage more ST holders from other clubs to watch a game at leigh why would this not encourage floating fans to return?
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| The very few fans who will travel to fev because of this and take advantage are our ST holders. what about the other 1000+ people we have naffed off with this idea?Plus the majority of our fans dont go to away games especially pay on the day fans
and before the get a season ticket response comes not everyone can afford one or afford £240 over a year to go in the Touchdown club
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"But would all 340 of those have season tickets? Shouldn't think so, so there's extra money to be made, depending on how the ticket office are 'policing' the offer.'"
Whatever the mix would you still reach revenue parity? I don't think so.
In the meantime how do you factor in our own floating fans who won't go because away fans get a better deal?
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| Quote ="Saley2"The very few fans who will travel to fev because of this and take advantage are our ST holders. what about the other 1000+ people we have naffed off with this idea?Plus the majority of our fans dont go to away games especially pay on the day fans
and before the get a season ticket response comes not everyone can afford one or afford £240 over a year to go in the Touchdown club'"
You'd be surprised how big a proportion of our away support is non season ticket holders mate. As a straw poll, of 16 of us who are regular away supporters, no more than 5/6 of us are season ticket holders this season.
Quote ="The Prophet"In the meantime how do you factor in our own floating fans who won't go because away fans get a better deal?'"
No way of proving whether that happens or not, nor has there been much suggestion of that from non season ticket holders on here?
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"You'd be surprised how big a proportion of our away support is non season ticket holders mate. As a straw poll, of 16 of us who are regular away supporters, no more than 5/6 of us are season ticket holders this season.
No way of proving whether that happens or not, nor has there been much suggestion of that from non season ticket holders on here?'"
Thats even worse then Matt !! even less of our supporters will benifit
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| AS I see it a Batley season tocket holder can get in for Ten pounds and bring a kid free of charge, little Johnny from leigh , wants to come tonight, his dads skint and cant take him, so he misses out.
IMHO all junior school aged kids should be let in FREE OF CHARGE.
What works for FEV, is not the same as us, as they own their own ground and can charge more for beer, pop, food and can claw the saving back, we cant.
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| exactly!
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"No way of proving whether that happens or not, nor has there been much suggestion of that from non season ticket holders on here?'"
But surely you see the way forward is to focus on our prospective home fans and look at ways to convert them into season ticket holders or TD members?
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"AS I see it a Batley season tocket holder can get in for Ten pounds and bring a kid free of charge, little Johnny from leigh , wants to come tonight, his dads skint and cant take him, so he misses out.
IMHO all junior school aged kids should be let in FREE OF CHARGE.
What works for FEV, is not the same as us, as they own their own ground and can charge more for beer, pop, food and can claw the saving back, we cant.'"
At last somebody else who gets it!!!!
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| Quote ="Saley2"Thats even worse then Matt !! even less of our supporters will benifit'"
You've missed the point Stef in that it also shows that there will be visiting fans coming to the LSV who will be paying full price, just as there will be our fans at away clubs.
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