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| Quote ="Alan"Don't know what has been negotiated Ste. The figure of 'over 50%' was from Trevor, this morning. I believe he is looking at the overall corporate packages. For example, inccluded in the price of a box, are ground admission charges and programme purchases.
If you ask him direct, as we did this morning, he will answer.'"
Corporate box is different, I'm talking corporate meals and I really don't understand how approx 120 people occupying 12 boxes can sway a decision of 2300 average crowd?
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Corporate box is different, I'm talking corporate meals and I really don't understand how approx 120 people occupying 12 boxes can sway a decision of 2300 average crowd?'"
I quoted boxes as 'an example', Ste. Is the admission price not included in the price of a meal, too?
By the way, amazingly, all but one of the boxes were taken for the Toulouse game, last season.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Corporate box is different, I'm talking corporate meals and I really don't understand how approx 120 people occupying 12 boxes can sway a decision of 2300 average crowd?'"
I know im being picky but your including away support in that and they dont really count here.
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| Quote ="Alan"By the way, amazingly, all but one of the boxes were taken for the Toulouse game, last season.'"
Perhaps we should have gone for Saturday nights
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| The downside of the mixed KO trial is that it will very much have a detrimental effect on ST sales.
Whilst most fans can commit to regular Sunday's and another section perhaps to regular Friday's, considerably less people will be able commit to both for an entire season.
Therefore not many will now be able to justify the upfront purchase especially when you throw in the odd Thursday night game together with the removal of any early bird incentive.
The decision has made what was an already a difficult task to sell ST's (And the TC concept) a much more challenging one.
As alway's I will be looking to get to as many games as I can but knowing I will now be missing an handful of those games I will just pay on the day for the games I do attend.
Sadly I doubt I will be alone with games being played all over the show. I believe it is an ill conceived decision, and I think the club will suffer from it IMO.
Nothing I have read so far has convinced me otherwise either.
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| Quote ="JENKY"Perhaps we should have gone for Saturday nights
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That would have been my choice to ' experiment ' with , a couple of ' themed ' nights but without the ' work day ' aspect , also you can go for a slightly earlier start , which means less issues with kids attending
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| Quote ="Starbug"Its that simple is it ?
So your targeting of ' people with money ' will be what exactly , apart from switching to friday nights ?'"
You should ring one or two sl clubs and ask them what else did they do other than swtich to fridays to increase gates.if they target a certain ordiance then perhaps they can help.
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| Quote ="JENKY"Perhaps we should have gone for Saturday nights
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Its like that avert innit.....the lad asks,weres your politics and the other chap replies -middle of the road.
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| Quote ="Alan"I quoted boxes as 'an example', Ste. Is the admission price not included in the price of a meal, too?
By the way, amazingly, all but one of the boxes were taken for the Toulouse game, last season.'"
It is included Alan trouble is the LSV charged us £20+ which meant we only made the ticket price well actually a little less
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| It appears that some fans are really organised, in that they have their Sundays/Fridays planned for months in advance. Is it not possible to plan for some of those weekends, based on the released fixtures, or are things really booked up so far in advance? (obviously I'm not referring to work, as that tends to be outside the control of even the most organised RL person)
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| Quote ="j.c"You should ring one or two sl clubs and ask them what else did they do other than swtich to fridays to increase gates.if they target a certain ordiance then perhaps they can help.'"
The bigger the profile of the club , the more important Corporate and sponsors become , they like Friday nights , and differentiates them from Football , where the real money goes , proportionatley we rely a lot more on the paying fan
Also it tends to be a 'chicken and egg ' scenario , which comes first , the corporate and sponsor , or the number of fans ?
I have yet to see any stadium with corporate but no fans , but lots with fans but no corporate
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| Quote ="Alan":2lgklsm3It appears that some fans are really organised, in that they have their Sundays/Fridays planned for months in advance.
Is it not possible to plan for some of those weekends, based on the released fixtures, or are things really booked up so far in advance? (obviously I'm not referring to work, as that tends to be outside the control of even the most organised RL person)'" to get the days off, i love this club to much not too.
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| Quote ="Alan"The decision was taken after consultation with our corporate sponsors, the players and the coaching staff.'"
I know your only passing on the info Alan, but why did the club not ask it's largest group of customers, the 2000 plus that between them pay around £20-30K per match?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Its that simple is it ?
So your targeting of ' people with money ' will be what exactly , apart from switching to friday nights ?'"
I don't know how simple it is or isn't. I don't and never have worked in marketing, but from where I'm sat the targeting of primary schools 5 miles away doesn't work, when we do have ticket giveaways etc we struggle to fill the Family Stand even a quarter. For me the best marketing idea would be to use the fans we do have, give incentives to people to bring extra people to matches with them, advertising games in places that attract a lot of traffic, ie the exits of supermarkets, pubs and clubs, Use the Leigh Reporter and Journal a lot more, sign the club up with a local charity and have players make appearances, handing over of cheques etc, even targeting the houses that are literally a stones throw away from the stadium, that are going to be living there for the next 20 years.
In my opinion those ideas would be more beneficial than throwing free tickets at Primary School kids.
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| Quote ="JENKY"Perhaps we should have gone for Saturday nights
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Well I for one wouldn't be seen dead at the LSV on Saturday nights! That's a ridiculous suggestion. If that happend I would cancel my LISA membership, cancel my touchdown direct debit and never ever buy a shirt again! The lottery subscription would be cancelled as well. In fact, every time I drive home from work I would purposely avoid driving down the bypass so that I never saw the LSV again. I would make it my lifes mission to hunt down the people who made that descision and kidnap their childrens pet rabbit until they reversed their ridiculous descision
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"Well I for one wouldn't be seen dead at the LSV on Saturday nights! That's a ridiculous suggestion. If that happend I would cancel my LISA membership, cancel my touchdown direct debit and never ever buy a shirt again! The lottery subscription would be cancelled as well. In fact, every time I drive home from work I would purposely avoid driving down the bypass so that I never saw the LSV again. I would make it my lifes mission to hunt down the people who made that descision and kidnap their childrens pet rabbit until they reversed their ridiculous descision
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So your not keen on Saturday games then.
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| Quote ="ian c"So your not keen on Saturday games then.
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My bloods boiling at the suggestion! I have been going to watch Leigh man and boy. Changing to Saturdays like that makes me so angry I could crush a grape!
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| So there you have it,the clubs likes the corperate mob more than the fans,trev tell them to jangle there jewellery against the glass so the players realise they are still watching.
As for the oh look moving to friday will bring in hundreds of more fans than sundays,please tell me how????
The clubs crowds have grown over the last 2 seasons and we looked to be building a solid base but now we play thursday friday sunday how on earth we attract a crowd when we are moved from pillar to post every other week is beyond me?
Good luck with this one leigh,expect to see trev in the journal midway through the season saying does the town want a team
Perhaps the biggest blessing would be for the 3 wise monkeys to make a total mess of this season and sadly the club dies and the fans can set up a new club free from clowns and debt,even if it means starting again in the lower division,remember the lsv will sell itself to any sod who wants to play there roll on 2013 and hopefully a new club with fan power running it
Then again according to some we will be pulling in 3k crowds with us moaners out the way on a friday
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| Quote ="Starbug"It will certainly mean I will have to re think a few idea's for Marketing matches
Back to the drawing board'"
Open the South Stand for 12-16yr olds only, open it at 6 and have Wii competitions, bush tucker trials, X factor comps, disco, in the concourse area prior to the game, £2 entrance, sell pop and crisp cheap.
Mum and Dad may just buy a ticket for the other end to ensure they get home ok.
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| Quote ="Jimmy85"I don't know how simple it is or isn't. I don't and never have worked in marketing, but from where I'm sat the targeting of primary schools 5 miles away doesn't work, when we do have ticket giveaways etc we struggle to fill the Family Stand even a quarter. For me the best marketing idea would be to use the fans we do have, give incentives to people to bring extra people to matches with them, advertising games in places that attract a lot of traffic, ie the exits of supermarkets, pubs and clubs, Use the Leigh Reporter and Journal a lot more, sign the club up with a local charity and have players make appearances, handing over of cheques etc, even targeting the houses that are literally a stones throw away from the stadium, that are going to be living there for the next 20 years.
In my opinion those ideas would be more beneficial than throwing free tickets at Primary School kids.'"
All those are good idea's that should be tried , all of them have been recently suggested and hopefully all , or at least most will be tried , but you still have the problem of getting ' them ' , whoever ' them ' may be in the stadium to start with , the second problem is then , when you get ' them ' in , making the stadium a place ' they ' want to return to
Part of that is having large numbers of people in the stadium to start with
How often have we had a ' family stand ' ? , and where is it ?
There isn't one magic formula that will solve our problems , it is a strategy , a plan with many many things all done over and over again that will improve things
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"Well I for one wouldn't be seen dead at the LSV on Saturday nights! That's a ridiculous suggestion. If that happend I would cancel my LISA membership, cancel my touchdown direct debit and never ever buy a shirt again! The lottery subscription would be cancelled as well. In fact, every time I drive home from work I would purposely avoid driving down the bypass so that I never saw the LSV again. I would make it my lifes mission to hunt down the people who made that descision and kidnap their childrens pet rabbit until they reversed their ridiculous descision
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| Quote ="glow"Open the South Stand for 12-16yr olds only, open it at 6 and have Wii competitions, bush tucker trials, X factor comps, disco, in the concourse area prior to the game, £2 entrance, sell pop and crisp cheap.
Mum and Dad may just buy a ticket for the other end to ensure they get home ok.'"
12-16 s eh ?
, what was I interested in at that age ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"The bigger the profile of the club , the more important Corporate and sponsors become , they like Friday nights , and differentiates them from Football , where the real money goes , proportionatley we rely a lot more on the paying fan
Also it tends to be a 'chicken and egg ' scenario , which comes first , the corporate and sponsor , or the number of fans ?
I have yet to see any stadium with corporate but no fans , but lots with fans but no corporate'"
Its obvious we need to increase both and for me this is the place to start plus if the new regime and there policies fail we can always go back to sunday and accept our place in the food chain.Only next time the rfl give a leg up to bristol or coventry there'll be little point in moaning about it will there because we've got a support base with no ambition have we.
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| Quote ="Starbug"12-16 s eh ?
, what was I interested in at that age ?'"
playing football?
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| Quote ="Starbug"12-16 s eh ?
, what was I interested in at that age ?'"
Sex, drugs, music and Leigh RLFC, but not in that order.
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