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| Correct, not many of his tackles were first contact. Anyone who plays 80 mins in the middle of a team who gets hammered regularly is going to be making 40 plus tackles . Wonder what his missed tackles and metres makes stats were for the year?
He earned the same salary last year as Zak Hardaker. Which in utterly bonkers.
With regard to the recent contract negotiations I agree that some high end contracts need to be curbed however it seems that we are also trying to curb the salaries of some who were in the low end of the salary scale too. Players who do care about the club and may have been undervalued for some time.
At the end of the day, as the saying goes, if you pay peanuts....
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| Quote ="davo1979"Correct, not many of his tackles were first contact. Anyone who plays 80 mins in the middle of a team who gets hammered regularly is going to be making 40 plus tackles . Wonder what his missed tackles and metres makes stats were for the year?
He earned the same salary last year as Zak Hardaker. Which in utterly bonkers.
With regard to the recent contract negotiations I agree that some high end contracts need to be curbed however it seems that we are also trying to curb the salaries of some who were in the low end of the salary scale too. Players who do care about the club and may have been undervalued for some time.
At the end of the day, as the saying goes, if you pay peanuts....'"
He'll be earning more than Zak Hardaker next year....
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| also if you pay out more than what comes in you have a real problem around the corner. Derek paid for his dream, we should not be expecting him to do so again, I would much rather see realism and fans taking ownership of what budget is available by buying ST's. Realistically our income will drop by £1.5-2m based on 4000 gates, we need to cut the expenditure accordingly
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| Quote ="davo1979"Correct, not many of his tackles were first contact. Anyone who plays 80 mins in the middle of a team who gets hammered regularly is going to be making 40 plus tackles . Wonder what his missed tackles and metres makes stats were for the year?
He earned the same salary last year as Zak Hardaker. Which in utterly bonkers.
With regard to the recent contract negotiations I agree that some high end contracts need to be curbed however it seems that we are also trying to curb the salaries of some who were in the low end of the salary scale too. Players who do care about the club and may have been undervalued for some time.
At the end of the day, as the saying goes, if you pay peanuts....'"
Players who do care,have shown their true colours.KC will show no sentiment and thats an element thats been missing,regardless of who you are.
We can all agree/disagree with in's and out's,but there does seem to be a very clear plan in place and someone at the helm is executing it.
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| Quote ="maurice"also if you pay out more than what comes in you have a real problem around the corner. Derek paid for his dream, we should not be expecting him to do so again, I would much rather see realism and fans taking ownership of what budget is available by buying ST's. Realistically our income will drop by £1.5-2m based on 4000 gates, we need to cut the expenditure accordingly'"
He stated he would go full cap again next season Mo. Whether we expect him to or not,he has made his choice. You keep pushing the ST,are you on commission?
DB stated no point in buying season tickets until we know what squad we are supporting..Lets go with what he says first.
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| Quote ="atomic"He stated he would go full cap again next season Mo. Whether we expect him to or not,he has made his choice. You keep pushing the ST,are you on commission?
DB stated no point in buying season tickets until we know what squad we are supporting..Lets go with what he says first.'"
Can we buy ST's yet? - didn't think so!!
When available its vital they are accessible to all, and that we support the ambition of OUR club - I will miss more than I get to next season but I will buy the ST and hope others in a similar position do the same - that way we send the correct signal to our owner and the RFL - like HKR fans did last year and Salford fans didn't.
Didn't know he had stated Full Cap btw, if so as fans should we just say great and not financially support him??
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| Quote ="maurice"Can we buy ST's yet? - didn't think so!!
When available its vital they are accessible to all, and that we support the ambition of OUR club - I will miss more than I get to next season but I will buy the ST and hope others in a similar position do the same - that way we send the correct signal to our owner and the RFL - like HKR fans did last year and Salford fans didn't.
Didn't know he had stated Full Cap btw, if so as fans should we just say great and not financially support him??'"
We currently have what? Eight signed up?... How can we financially support him at present? What should the fans do?
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| Quote ="atomic"We currently have what? Eight signed up?... How can we financially support him at present? What should the fans do?'"
Doesn't matter who we have signed or how many, its OUR club and £250 seems a small amount to ask custodians to pay to ensure its health is maximized when available
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| Quote ="maurice"Doesn't matter who we have signed or how many, its OUR club and £250 seems a small amount to ask custodians to pay to ensure its health is maximized when available'"
But the owner has stated,no point in paying for season tickets until we know what squad we are supporting.
It matters most of having a squad to put out in whatever division,at present thats not the case. So again how do you support OUR club that currently doesn't have a squad for 2018.
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| Quote ="atomic"But the owner has stated,no point in paying for season tickets until we know what squad we are supporting.
It matters most of having a squad to put out in whatever division,at present thats not the case. So again how do you support OUR club that currently doesn't have a squad for 2018.'"
By buying one as soon as they are available
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| Quote ="maurice"By buying one as soon as they are available'"
I'm sure many will Mo,once the stalls are full. Until then lets enjoy them being filled.
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| Quote ="atomic"I'm sure many will Mo,once the stalls are full. Until then lets enjoy them being filled.
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Yep, plus we can only buy them when they become available to buy!
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| Quote ="Alan"Yep, plus we can only buy them when they become available to buy!'"
I don't remember Goodwin being available to buy..
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| Quote ="atomic"I don't remember Goodwin being available to buy..
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For the sake of clarification - we can only buy season tickets when they become available to buy!
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| Back on topic, I'll be sad to see Sam go. He's a good player, capable of being even better - however, I guess we are not all privy to what goes on at the club.
Also, it's a strange turn of events:
Team gets relegated - contracts become null and void.
Player says to club - "Great, I'm off to look for somewhere better. I don't want to stay here." No fuss made.
Club says to player - "We don't want you to stay. We want to sign someone better" Everyone up in arms!
Like I say, I don't want to see Sam go, but ultimately, void contracts work both ways.
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| Anyhow back on topic.. Was a good player and yes null and void works both ways. Obviously not the way he intended.
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| Dave Armistead was seen at the LSV this afternoon.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Dave Armistead was seen at the LSV this afternoon.'"
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| Quote ="atomic"Anyhow back on topic..
Was a good player and yes null and void works both ways. =#FF0000Obviously not the way he intended.'"
Very true! Personally, of all the players 'released'/leaving, I reckon he will be one of those who find it easiest to get a new SL club.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Dave Armistead was seen at the LSV this afternoon.'"
Thank God it wasn't Dave Armitstead
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| Quote ="Alan"Very true! Personally, of all the players 'released'/leaving, I reckon he will be one of those who find it easiest to get a new SL club.'"
Wakey looking favourite.Who replaces Hoppy.Lee Mossop?
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| Sorry to see him go, would have been an ideal player to help in our fight for Promotion next season.
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| Quote ="JENKY"Sorry to see him go, would have been an ideal player to help in our fight for Promotion next season.'"
He was on my keeper list but more for his potential to be dominant at Champ level than SL. I was dissapointed overall last season. I expected big minutes and strong performances, neither really materialised. I still think he is SL quality but needs to step it up.
Good luck to him and to all who are leaving.
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"He was on my keeper list but more for his potential to be dominant at Champ level than SL. I was dissapointed overall last season. I expected big minutes and strong performances, neither really materialised. I still think he is SL quality but needs to step it up.
Good luck to him and to all who are leaving.'"
Any chance I can have your keeper list VL..
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