From a financial standpoint in terms of credit etc maybe but the government are to blame really

I would agree totally but for one thing. Regulation. Gordon Brown seems to harp on about it everyday to the point where I actually turn the TV off when I see his face. Its ultimately his fault for this problem in THIS country. Overseas problems have not helped one iota but its his tax tax tax and spend spend spend policy which has now got us in the muck. It was his failure to put regulations into the banking system and press foreign nations to do the same. It was his tax policy on pensions which forced many investors to look elsewhere. i.e shares and houses. It is all his fault. And I voted for Labour.




But then I haven't much choice and my vote wouldn't matter anyway.

Get Jeremy Clarkson in power... I'd vote for him

Exactly! Ignorant means lacking knowledge or information of a particular subject. If someone was to vote BNP citing they where unaware of the BNP's core, racist values, they would be displaying breath-taking stupidity, as those facts are well documented.

Anyway - as a first generation immigrant 'Paddy', I'm away now to celebrate my Hibernian culture, with a few pints of the dark stuff, and a couple of glasses of poteen !!

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They are racist. They are xenophobic. They are the British NATIONALIST party. Their manifesto, like all others, is not to be trusted.

I understand why people look to them because there is no differentiable alternative. Labour abandoned the working classes in 97. IMHO there is a need for a party to the left NOT further right than the Etonians.

Before you cast a vote for the BNP ask yourself how many of the decent people who voted the German Nationalist Socialist Party to power with a mandate for change felt when, twelve years later, they discovered their own government's 'immigration policy' was, simply, industrialized murder.

Would they have said, "Well, I never voted for that policy. Just for economic reform. Of course I knew they were extreme in their views, but they never mentioned at the election they were going to send millions down the track and up the chimney else I may not have voted for them."

Be careful what you wish for.

I havent got the energy or spair time on my hands to read all these posts, but ill post a few points made by the BNP to illustrate why I support them:

There is a "Black Police Assoiciation", "Black Lawyers Assoication", "Black Nurses Assiocation" but if we tried to make a "White ***** Assoication" we would be deemed rasist, and thats wrong!

St Georges Day isnt celebrated enough in England, we need to be more patriotic and celebrate it properly

Want the power to be back in teachers hands, the kane if nessicary

promote christianity

fear were becoming a 3rd world country

immegration shoudl be stopped, not because theyre "rasist", but because it cost the tax payers (fact) £8.8 billion in 2008, the NHS cost 2.2 billion to run yet the government cant afford to run the NHS!!! but they can afford to pay for immigrant, weve seen it in leigh, theres no point there bein a hospital in leigh

we (white british) could be an ethnic minority in our own country in 50 to 60 years on current demographic figures

Believes privitisation of BRITISH industry is wrong, Rover sold to CHina, Jaguar sold to India, the best one of all, EDF!!! It stand for Electricite de France.... are your utility bills high? thats because forign companys make british people pay over the top prices becuase they want to make profit, because they are not state owned. Meanwhile EDF offer subsidised bills to French poeple as theyre making enough money from English people to do that..... (this is my theroy not the BNP) but i think EDF could let all their frech cunstomers have free electricity and still make a profit.....
Also TNT express delievery is owned by the Dutch poat office, and THL another deleivery servise in england is owned by the German post office.... this takes custome away from the royal mail!!! takin our business
(this was done by the tories not the labours btw)

23% of pensioners live in poverty conditions in the UK today

A teacher cant get sacked for watching hardcore pron, but yet can be sacked for viewin BNP literiture

isylum seekers, if they fail the form which they get given on asylum (which is pretty hard to do, even timmy street could do it) they get paided to go back to thier country of ethnic origin..... this amounts equates to 24 times the average annual salary in Iraq or Iran, andd you the tax payer are payin for it.... this can build homes and business.... seekers come over to fail the form so they can get money to take back home.. (easy days work to me) in a couple of minutes you can get 24 times your YEARLY ANNUAL SALARY by failin an assylm form!! PATHETIC!!!

Isylum, the orignal principle is- "Isylum seekers have the right to write refuge in the 1st safe country BORDERING THIERS when they are fleeing legal persecution." i did not know that iran iraq borders england....... weird

how come black people are an ethnic minority, and where not??????

there are all these lies and faults in the way the country in run....... these are only SOME.... and i MEAN SOME of the BNPs arguments, politicians wont argue with Nick Griffin becuase thier scared of him, not because hes rasist......... they know hes right, and they know if he gets televised ect... he will be in power in the next eleection and thier trying to stop him......

my opinion again.....

sorry for the spelling mistkaes, im very tired, dyslexic and rushin it lol.... going to bed now guys

You have to be up early so that s a good idea

I refuse to indulge in a battle of wits with an un-armed opponent!!



Has anyone got a b0l0x to English translator that I can use??

Well the BNP supporters post is not just full of spelling mistakes (ok I should talk) it is also full of made up facts. Well if you want to believe that sort of stuff and they get elected I expect it won,t be long before they are knocking on my door.

Or more likely knocking it down.

I reside in both England and France my electricity is supplied by EDF in both countries, the unit price for my electricity in England is cheaper than that charged in France.

But even a half-wit would have the intelligence to add spell-check to google toolbar

Playing devils advocate, he has simply listed the fears of a growing percentage of the UK population that the ruling parties have failed to address.
A mainstream party that takes on board some of these concerns will walk the next election because Brits arent racist by nature, but when we feel pd on we tend to fight back hard, and plenty decent folk are not happy with the ghettos that have arisen and the perceived preferential treatment of immigrants/asylum seekers.
Personally I feel we need to exit the Human Rights charter (?) asap, restrict legal aid for terrorists/asylum seekers etc and adopt a US style policy for migrants.
Anyone wanting to come to the UK for the right reasons, and provided we are able to take them, should be welcomed.

Bet they cant get in Aussie

Careful, it may have been made by fuzzy wuzzys.

Exit the human rights charter? Why?

Here it is, tell me which bits you want to scrap:

[urlhttp://www.europarl.europa.eu/charter/pdf/text_en.pdf[/url

Over 50 mistakes in spelling and grammar in around 580 words... that's stunning, one word in ten is misspelt, wrong, meaningless or grammatically incorrect.

If there was a test on the use of the English for those born in Britain, you'd fail miserably. Ignorant dolt. You call yourself English and you don't even speak the language. I'd take an immigrant over you any day. At least they have the chutzpah to get off their @rse and do something, like travel the world looking for a better life.

You haven't the energy or 'spair' time to read these posts? Haven't got the intellectual capacity to cope with big words, more like. You're a disgrace to our nation, you bring shame on us all, and if your IQ was any lower you'd need watering.

BTW we're not an ethnic minority, us white anglo-saxon Britons, because we're not a minority. We're the ethnic majority.

There are no white police associations because white police officers are in the overwhelming majority and as such need no representation beyond that which is afforded to them through the mechanisms of the Police Association and other such bodies

Teachers would get sacked for watching hardcore porn (at work, anyway) but can't be sacked for reading BNP literature (anywhere).

Asylum seekers have the right to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach, there is nothing anywhere about countries bordering the one from which they are fleeing.

Beating up children with weapons is generally frowned upon, even if it is done by a teacher or parent. That is a good thing.

Failed asylum seekers don't get paid when they get sent back to their own country of origin... that's simply not true.

St George was the Lebanese son of a Palestinian woman and a Roman Centurion, so I'd guess under your rule he wouldn't be let it to this country to celebrate his own special day.

I don't want my government to promote any religion, not even Christianity, thanks.. although sadly we're still an established State (not that you'd know what that is), which unfortunately means that religion of all kinds is allowed to shape things like educational and social policy, a place where it has no place in more progressive nations like France and Turkey.

And finally, Nick Griffin isn't given airtime because he espouses a racially divisive, pernicious form of twaddle that is accepted only by a very small minority of people, perhaps because our parents and grandparents spent six years fighting against that kind of evil poison throughout the second world war. He actually gets far more airtime, proportionally, that he gets votes, and that's because our democratic system allocates television airtime at elections on the basis of the number of candidates being put up (as a baseline indicator, anyway).

Maybe if you learned to read (sorry, if you had more spare time and energy... whatever) you'd know a little more and talk a little less. But don't let facts get in the way of a nasty neo-nazi rant, will you?

Not sure your last post was worth the effort W71. I thought our friend had more than done enough to prove the ignorant/racist/stupid point made by others earlier.

Unfortunately, our politicians of the last thirty years or so have made hay in the politics of the ignorant and stupid. electorate. It's been a lot more.... expedient.. that way.

Come election time, you only have to buy a few newspaper editors and the bulk of the work is done. Safe towns like Leigh of course, are an irrelevance.

The same politically illiterate and historically ignorant voting class that has been so expediently exploited over recent years could very quickly turn into a monster under the influence of a charismatic demagogue.

I don't agree with taking the intellectual high ground over grammatical errors on message boards as it's somewhat patronising and can show both arrogance and ignorance, but that did make me laugh.





Anyway, 14 pages......we didnt have that many when we lost the franchise race

I dont want to scrap it just get us out of it, leaving all the well educated, limp wristed, socialist do gooders, when it suits them lawyers to find refuge overseas.

TBF its a testimony that it hasn't been locked.......but mention the pies losing again *LOCKED*

I blame the immigrants for not having my swipe card yet.

Wembley71, ill be higher educated than you for a start....... travel the world to look for a better place to live... i have houses in spain and usa....

if youd bother to read

i said we COULD BE an ethnic minoirty in our country within 50 to 60 years......

If a white police association was made white people would be called rasist.......

yes there is a law which says "bordering theirs"..... asylum has been twisted by the labour and tory government....

I didnt say beating up a child, using the kane is a suitable way of punishment..... you have to agree, schools would be more disaplined, children would be more respectful and get better grades if a form of disapline was at hand

Asylum seekers do get paided to go back to their country of origin that is FACT!!!!!! just hidden by the labour government

Under BNP yes we would celebrate ST Georges day.... more than we would under a labour government

Its not a nazi party hahahahaha

BNP does not believe in concentration camps... it does not beleive in racial superiority...

Know a little more...... you dont even know how this countrys being run..... you dont even know the law of asylum......

speak English.... asylum seekers only have to know one word in English to enter this country and that is ironically "isylum"... its them who cant speak english... and yes you the tax payer pays for the translation services needed by these people

I'll bet my masters degree from Cambridge you are not better educated than I am. I'd like to see the institution that awards qualifications to racists who can't spell racist, or who thinks 'paided' is a word, and as I recall you're question was "how come black people are an ethnic minority, and where not??????"... presuming you meant 'we are not', then the answer is because we are not a minority...

...but don't bother your pretty little white anglo-saxon head any further. You are the best possible reason why the BNP should be avoided like the plague that they are. I expect that anyone reading your posts, and considering you the be the representative of all the BNP espouses, would have no problems in voting for a broken tecup to ensure your kind never got anywhere near influencing the policies of this country.

Keep up the good work!