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| There is no doubt in my mind. Liam Kaye is a very talented player but your not using him to the best of his ability if your playing him out on the wing. It just makes the decision to send out Brown on a months loan all the more bizarre.
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| The positive with Brown is that if he's playing first team, it can only be good for his confidence and will benefit Leigh
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| Quote ="Alan" the message appears to be that we don't want/need wingers.'"
Probably because the centres don't give them the ball.
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| At least since he was dropped for 'defensive frailties' that side of defence has tightened up...
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| Quote ="DETROITSOUL"On official website now D Beumont says the move gives him chance to build his confidence and form What a daft statement the lad scored 8 try's in two games the last try against the Cougars last week was awesome Brown does,nt lack form or confidence Top Player who should be in the team'"
Well PR picks the side and if at the moment Brown can't get into the side Derek Beaumont makes a valid point about our reserves playing Academy sides for the next few weeks so Alex would just be kicking his heels for a month.
Better for him to keep match fit in my view.
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| He should be kept match fit in the first team, only opinion of course.
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| Just maybe there is more to it than face not fitting, because if not I think Alex has been made a scapegoat without good reason. He in my opinion is the best winger in the club.
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| Quote ="The Publican"Just maybe there is more to it than face not fitting, because if not I think Alex has been made a scapegoat without good reason. He in my opinion is the best winger in the club.'"
Mr Publican , I agree Alex is a very good winger , not sure about best at the Club though , at the moment I favour Higson , AJ has took his chance well and deserves his place , for me Brown wasn't seeing enough of the ball .He should soon be back in the first team , though im not to sure about others , could be Good Night Irene for a couple . .
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| This was my most anticipated signing of the season, there must be reason as to why Alex is not in the team but as I have said before Rowley must know what he's doing?
Alex's obvious down side is his defence, which IMO could be coached 1-1,
I think a fair benchmark would be that we would all be jealous if he was lining up for Fax against us but now he is with us he is almost taken for granted.
undoubted attacking talent but as much a mystery to me as to why our best attacking centre is being played on his unfavoured side?
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| It does all seem rather odd. Most people were finding it hard to choose between Brown and young Ryan to finish top try scorer only a few weeks back..
Personally I would have recalled Alex Brown this week, just to mix it up a bit. He had earned himself another shot by performing in the A-team.
The beauty of having a big squad available is that once you are given the first team shirt you must literally perform every week, no excuse. How many of our players can say they were at the very top of their game last week? Not all of our backs have covered them selves in glory so far.
Also I would move Higson to centre, Charlie.
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| Littler is the captain & is highly rated by Rowls so IMHO I doubt he'll be dropped. Personally I think Kaye, Higson or even Gov would be better as right centre with Pownall & Brown on either wing.
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| I think everyone is surprised about Alex Brown not being chosen , and we all have our choices from 2-5 , LG mentioned Gov , he was invisible last night , my wingers would be Higson and Brown , Armstrong should give his winger more ball , its been said about Littler being Captain , but for me his place would be in Question , again we all have our opinions , whatever happens Alex will return .
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| Quote ="charlie caroli" LG mentioned its been said about Littler being Captain , but for me his place would be in Question.'"
He's been a great signing over the past couple of years but I do just wonder if we have better options this year. There are not many 35 year old centre's currently in the game are there?
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| It's all about keeping quality in your team & Kaye & Gov are quality players but with Beswick & Penky on form where does that leave them? AJ is nailed on in the starting 13 whether that's on't wing or centre IMO with Littler passed his best he'd be better as a rotational back rower for me. Another option would be putting Sarsy at 3 & Kurt to starting back row with Thornley on't bench. I'm not sure if it was Salford lad sugested Kaye in't centre but thinking about it that would be better than the ever ageing Littler or AJ brought inside.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"He's been a great signing over the past couple of years but I do just wonder if we have better options this year. There are not many 35 year old centre's currently in the game are there?'"
Harold im not knocking Littler , hes been a good servant to our club , all im saying is just because hes Captain doesn't mean his place is Nailed on , games against the weaker teams like the Hairnets , could be used to try different permutations in the team line-up .But again that is Rowls choice .Rowls knows .
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| Quote ="leyther_geezer"It's all about keeping quality in your team & Kaye & Gov are quality players but with Beswick & Penky on form where does that leave them? AJ is nailed on in the starting 13 whether that's on't wing or centre IMO with Littler passed his best he'd be better as a rotational back rower for me. Another option would be putting Sarsy at 3 & Kurt to starting back row with Thornley on't bench. I'm not sure if it was Salford lad sugested Kaye in't centre but thinking about it that would be better than the ever ageing Littler or AJ brought inside.'"
Iain , I know what you are saying , and I agree about Penky and Bob B , it leaves Gov as 3 rd choice , im a Haggy fan , and also think Sarsfield could be tried at centre , I would always find room somewhere for Kay , as his strength and speed , and versatility are very valuable , trouble is we can only involve 17 players , and all have our best line-ups in mind , I know I have mine .
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| Aye Charlie with our current squad there's always going to be quality players not making the 17 weekly. Littler's still strong with the ball but defence wise is a liability & if Brown has been out of favour due to his defencive frailties the question why has Littler still got his centre spot. Another issue is AJ gets a lot of the ball through Kes & McNally rather than his centre.
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| Picking the strongest 17 week in week out is a recipe for disaster. Fringe players will get frustrated at lack of game time and you run the risk of fatigue and injury for those 17 constantly selected.
Get to the back end of the year and those who have languished on the fringes or out on loan will be looking for other clubs.
A big squad needs constant rotation in my humble opinion, only 1 or 2 players per game, will have those given a chance playing out of their skin to keep a place and those rested the chance to recover.
Simples really.
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| The first rule of a 'big squad' is keeping them all happy - especially if they can see or feel players in front of them aren't playing as well as they should.
Its a good move for Alex but a strange one for Leigh as I thought he'd be back this week.
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| Quote ="davo1979"Picking the strongest 17 week in week out is a recipe for disaster. Fringe players will get frustrated at lack of game time and you run the risk of fatigue and injury for those 17 constantly selected.
Get to the back end of the year and those who have languished on the fringes or out on loan will be looking for other clubs.
A big squad needs constant rotation in my humble opinion, only 1 or 2 players per game, will have those given a chance playing out of their skin to keep a place and those rested the chance to recover.
Simples really.'"
Agreed Davo. I suppose it's early days yet, but the past two seasons our squad has been burned out by the play-offs, through playing week in, week out. With every respect to the teams we have been playing, (a couple of whom have given us nasty shocks) I'd have thought rotation would help to keep the squad 'happy' and avoid over-playing injured (or ill) players.
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| Well I don't watch our lads train and PR does so I think it is best to leave team selection to him.
Regarding his comments about last week and some players being out of sorts due to a virus why would he lie ?
I have posted before judging by team selection for last night's under 20's Acton will replace Aspinwall and the others will be same as last week.
Re Alex Brown the loan period will do him good. It's early days yet.
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| Quote ="davo1979"Picking the strongest 17 week in week out is a recipe for disaster. Fringe players will get frustrated at lack of game time and you run the risk of fatigue and injury for those 17 constantly selected.
Get to the back end of the year and those who have languished on the fringes or out on loan will be looking for other clubs.
A big squad needs constant rotation in my humble opinion, only 1 or 2 players per game, will have those given a chance playing out of their skin to keep a place and those rested the chance to recover.
Simples really.'"
Probably something in that but this season when there's so much riding on finishing 1st or 2nd you just have to do everything to win every single game by as much as possible, that's all that matters; if a few fringe players you would have quite liked to keep ask to be transferred at the end of the season, ah well so be it, so long as we get that top spot nothing else matters this year.
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| Just had a look at the League table. We are still top and unbeaten...........
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| Quote ="Thrombo69"Just had a look at the League table. We are still top and unbeaten...........'"
Despite Alex playing in the first two games!
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| Quote ="Lowton_Sparrow"Probably something in that but this season when there's so much riding on finishing 1st or 2nd you just have to do everything to win every single game by as much as possible, that's all that matters; if a few fringe players you would have quite liked to keep ask to be transferred at the end of the season, ah well so be it, so long as we get that top spot nothing else matters this year.'"
LS you are right , finishing in the Top 2 is so important this season , nowt else matters , if we DONT finish in the Top 2 our money for finishing 3rd or Lower would be substantially lower than our Rivals , we must play our strongest 17 every game as long as they are Fit of course ,no room for sentiment now , agreed we have a big squad now , but the players who cant make the 17 , must take their chance when it arrives , and make sure Rowls notices them .
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