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| Quote ="sanjunien"sorry to disagree jc but watch Brendan Worth this season - he was absolutely awesome at the weekend - the Catalans coach was at the game and must have noted him down as a 'possible' SL material
he was MOM by a mile !
saying that Chris Hill is a fine player...
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Brendan Worth is a quality prop.
Difference is, Hilly is Brittish and younger and in my opinion, pips Worth to the best prop in our division. Worth can't go 80 minutes, Hilly could if asked.
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| Quote ="Snowy"Brendan Worth is a quality prop.
Difference is, Hilly is Brittish and younger and in my opinion, pips Worth to the best prop in our division. Worth can't go 80 minutes, Hilly could if asked.'"
can't argue with that tho' BW has beefed up a bit and seemed to have improved his lay-off game plus his discipline.He was close to joining the Catalans this season and probably would have done if TR had been in place a bit earlier IMO.
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| Chris from yesterdays stats is expected to have made over 200m yesterday (he had made up to 160m up to half time) his tackle count had not been plotted as yet.
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| Sorry to talk business but when he goes i really hope the club gets a fair wad for him.
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| Depends, IF he goes whilst in contract yes they can ask for a fee when his contract expires he is a free agent.
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| He signed a contract halfway through last season didn't he?
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| 3 year one if I remember correctly, but if there is a SL clause (and TBH if I were his agent then I would have one in) there is the problem
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| Looking at it from a club point of veiw they would be daft to allow such a clause,it makes no sense.Fetherstone have financed ther youth structures for years to come with the sale of ther prize assets
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| I undertand that but to keep a player from the 'grasp' of other clubs in their league (most Ch 1 contracts used to have a Championship 'get out' clause too) it's a clause that is usefull especially if you want any chance of keeping your player when contract negotiation time comes around, and TBH Chris' contract was negotiated some months before it came to an end/start so maybe there isn't one in there, but again thinking of the players benefit if I was an agent i'd want either a free or small fee clause.
I remember an ex-coach saying to me that players who he would have liked in his squad but couldn't afford who went to a lower division club he advised to get the get out clause put in their contract, as this was an obvious way he could sign them if the money situation changed at his club and he found he was able to afford them later in the season, devious beggars these coaches ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="j.c"Looking at it from a club point of veiw they would be daft to allow such a clause,it makes no sense.Fetherstone have financed ther youth structures for years to come with the sale of ther prize assets'"
But if a contract is going to run out and you get nothing you are better off with a release clause where you get x amount of money if a bid is made.
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| Quote ="FredParky"Chris from yesterdays stats is expected to have made over 200m yesterday (he had made up to 160m up to half time) his tackle count had not been plotted as yet.'"
Would imagine he is well over 200m then as he made that break in the 2nd half of about 30 - 40m's!!
The guy is just awesome I can't recall him ever having a bad game! as much as i'd hate him leaving Leigh I really hope he has a crack at SL ![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif)
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"But if a contract is going to run out and you get nothing you are better off with a release clause where you get x amount of money if a bid is made.'"
Unless i'm miss understanding you,it doesn't work like that.
Its the player who has the get out clause then he can walk when ever he wants to with or without a fee.
If there is no clause and another club comes in for him its up to the club whether they sell or not.It also allows them to negotiate a better price for him.
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| The club can ask if there is a get out clause for a sub-clause (?) requesting a minimum fee or 'other' recompense to be given e.g. X number of home friendlies with the SL club, or that the player remain with the 'selling' club until end of season, long term loan of other players etc..
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| That's what I thought it was like Fred, a kind of 'structured' contract. So that if a smaller club has a talented player, they get some kind of reward for him if they sell on.
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| Quote ="FredParky"The club can ask if there is a get out clause for a sub-clause (?) requesting a minimum fee or 'other' recompense to be given e.g. =#FF0000X number of home friendlies with the SL club, or that the player remain with the 'selling' club until end of season, long term loan of other players etc..'"
Hope to goodness he never goes to W***n then! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| I wondered whether any SL club has ever stuck to that agreement, they usually announce 'a special agreement' with X club which always ends in tears.
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| This is why it should be a proper transfer fee.
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| Remember Dave Whittle making well over 300m's think it was v Rochdale at HP in the snow/sleet dn't think i've seen a player run as much as that.
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| The problem is that Super League clubs are too interested in signing the next second rate import (looking for quick fix) than signing talented young English players.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"The problem is that Super League clubs are too interested in signing the next second rate import (looking for quick fix) than signing talented young English players.'"
The way the Bulls did, when we just signed Kyle Briggs from Fev? And paid a sizeable transfer fee. And did it all above board, and both clubs happy.
Not fair to tar everyone with one brush?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"The way the Bulls did, when we just signed Kyle Briggs from Fev? And paid a sizeable transfer fee. And did it all above board, and both clubs happy.
Not fair to tar everyone with one brush?'"
yeh but Eclipse is right - Kyle Briggs is the exception and not the rule unfortnately it seems - there is so much potential in england,why go for the overseas option - it's scandalous ! ![Evil or Very Mad icon_evil.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_evil.gif)
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| Quote ="sanjunien"yeh but Eclipse is right - Kyle Briggs is the exception and not the rule unfortnately it seems - there is so much potential in england,why go for the overseas option - it's scandalous !
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Personally I think the issue is that it's to easy to say you are signing an NRL player and people then believe they are guaranteed a good player!
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| Quote ="Leyther Always"Personally I think the issue is that it's to easy to say you are signing an NRL player and people then believe they are guaranteed a good player!'"
usually when you sign an overseas player you know what you are getting at least - conversely,if the english potential talent isn't given a chance how can we ever know[u if[/u they are good enough or not ?
The same applies to the Catalans overseas recruitment v the french talent of course.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"The problem is that Super League clubs are too interested in signing the next second rate import (looking for quick fix) than signing talented young English players.'"
I agree! When Hilly DOES go to a SL team and shows just how good he is there will be plenty of other teams wondering how they have overlooked such a great player in the lower leagues. I am amazed that Hilly still plays for us and we need to make the most of it while he is here as somebody will take him to SL eventually.
I have a terrible feeling that when widnes get promoted to SL they will try and take Hill with them as they know just how good he is as he has given them many problems in recent years. I hope not though ![PRAY icon_razz.gifRAY:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_pray.gif)
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| Not good reading that Nozzy because like most Leythers I think he can do better than that.
Re Widnes and Non Relegation League I do not think promoted is the right word. Invited is better which says it all about the RFL's current attitude to on field success and which is why the Expansionist clubs will be the bottom 3 clubs in this the third year of this daft experiment which should be binned sooner rather than later. IMO of course.
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