Possibly, but they could make an entertaining one.

Skill and pace produce entertainment. Both sadly lacking

Support play, offloads and throwing the ball around do also.

Swap with Cullen?

Your in dreamland mate. What do you want Neil too do? You cant make bad players play good rugby. We have no decent half backs except Durbin. I will no doubt get slated for this but Watson it dire, slow, Readable, crap kicking game. Marsh so slow its unbeliveable he is never a stand off. Ridyard sorry i think hes had his chance and just isn't good enough.
Forwards: totally outplayed for the whole of the game today. Which forwrds would you honestly keep from our current squad? Maybe Hill, armistead? who else honestly?
backs: tbh dont think our backs are that our backs are that bad. we jus need a scrum half and stand off. No coach in this league could make that team enjoyable to watch.

Have em both

Any possible replacement could actually be the coach who has been the guest of our directors at games this season.

Kelly or McCormack.. You decide ?

Ask widnes supporters that question

If the people who run the club want to salvage this our first season in our
brilliant new ground they better get there ACT together and start
taking some chances instead of doing things on the CHEAP bring in players capbale of playing and entertaining at a higher level than we currently have and bring in someone who can coach and motivate at a higher level than we have no ifs or buts ....They are gonna kill this club
bringing us RL played like that no wonder people wont pay to watch that crap they even struggled to give 150 family tickets away blimey they should have gone within 24hrs.... GOOD TEAM PLAYIN GOOD RL = GOOD SUPPORT..POOR TEAM PLAYING CRAP == SUPPORTERS DROPPING OFF LIKE FLIES ..moneys tight these days and people want to go home happy feeling there well earned money was well spent..not go home suicidle
and feeling they,ve been ripped off ..SORT IT OUT PLEASE OR GET OUT
Other teams have brought crowd pleasing players in with strength and speed players who know how to entertain who have we brought in this season Donlan Armistead Durbin they aint bad but are playing in a below
average team poorly coached with out of date methods.

I too find it alarming that we cant give away 200 family tickets, how low have we sunk.

To be honest, I've watched a lot of McCormacks teams over the last few years. 4 grand finals and a northern rails cup win in 5 years plus a good world cup with Scotland suggests he's an excellent coach at this level. I'm not a leigh supporter but that's my opinion and he'd do a fantastic job. To be honest I rate him above Kelly although I've not seen Leigh play this year.

Hi Ray, how is your Steve. He's a top bloke, a bit like our Paut Terzis was with constantly being the second best team.

Or a different one altogether??

Just my opinion Maurice. Maybe better being up there challanging every season rather than not.

You can put whoever you want in charge but they've still got to have the playing staff to do the job.

What I've seen of us we haven't got that. Apart from Donlan we've signed nobody of note, we didn't address the problem of the lack of cover at half back, we haven't replaced Moran, TKL or Doran and also failed to sign anyone to replace Gareth Price.

Whoever was in charge of recruitment at board level wants to have a good look in the mirror.

Hi guys, Don't be too harsh with your team. Toulouse was under rated at the start of the season as it started completely unprepared. It is now a very decent side as its recent victory at Batley showed. I think it will be a top 5 team this year. Anyway, photos of the match are available here: picasaweb.google.com/PhotosRugby ... directlink

Hi guys, Don't be too harsh with your team. Toulouse was under rated at the start of the season as it started completely unprepared. It is now a very decent side as its recent victory at Batley showed. I think it will be a top 5 team this year. Anyway, photos of the match are available here: picasaweb.google.com/PhotosRugby ... directlink

Quote ="lpage"Hi guys, Don't be too harsh with your team. Toulouse was under rated at the start of the season as it started completely unprepared. It is now a very decent side as its recent victory at Batley showed. I think it will be a top 5 team this year. Anyway, photos of the match are available here: picasaweb.google.com/PhotosRugby ... directlink'" We must have been terrible as well as how good Toulouse were. In addition Toulouse should have been in NL2 this season... and I'm not saying that because they beat us, I just think they should have to start at the bottom if they are a new team. To be honest I think the French game would benefit more from your stronger teams playing in your own league rather than playing in the English leagues otherwise your own league will never get any better.

Quote ="lpage"Hi guys, Don't be too harsh with your team. Toulouse was under rated at the start of the season as it started completely unprepared. It is now a very decent side as its recent victory at Batley showed. I think it will be a top 5 team this year. Anyway, photos of the match are available here: picasaweb.google.com/PhotosRugby ... directlink'" We must have been terrible as well as how good Toulouse were. In addition Toulouse should have been in NL2 this season... and I'm not saying that because they beat us, I just think they should have to start at the bottom if they are a new team. To be honest I think the French game would benefit more from your stronger teams playing in your own league rather than playing in the English leagues otherwise your own league will never get any better.

Quote ="lpage"Hi guys, Don't be too harsh with your team. Toulouse was under rated at the start of the season as it started completely unprepared. It is now a very decent side as its recent victory at Batley showed. I think it will be a top 5 team this year. Anyway, photos of the match are available here: picasaweb.google.com/PhotosRugby ... directlink'" lpage I thought Toulouse looked good, those French internationals are knitting together and Nathan Wynn is a decent halfback at this level. Villegas is full of promise too and Planas had a great game in your centres. There is an abundance of decent halfbacks in the comp, Wynn, Branighan, Groom, Black, Webster - all from the Southern Hemisphere - this is a problem.... where are our British halfbacks?

Quote ="lpage"Hi guys, Don't be too harsh with your team. Toulouse was under rated at the start of the season as it started completely unprepared. It is now a very decent side as its recent victory at Batley showed. I think it will be a top 5 team this year. Anyway, photos of the match are available here: picasaweb.google.com/PhotosRugby ... directlink'" lpage I thought Toulouse looked good, those French internationals are knitting together and Nathan Wynn is a decent halfback at this level. Villegas is full of promise too and Planas had a great game in your centres. There is an abundance of decent halfbacks in the comp, Wynn, Branighan, Groom, Black, Webster - all from the Southern Hemisphere - this is a problem.... where are our British halfbacks?

I agree for them to start at the bottom as they were not ready for SL, and this bottom is the Championship which is their right level as today's match shows. The Championship One would not make sense financially and would raise even more eyebrows than the Championship which was already an innovative decision from the RFL.

Our league will get better, but this is not the main goal, the main goal is to have strong sides in the Super League Europe which is the leading competition in Europe. The SL was a European project from the start and it is natural for it to welcome several French teams in it. Neither the RFL, nor the French federation wish to have the French teams withdrawing to create a French only competition in the long term. On the contrary, the europeanisation of the tournament is a well thought strategy to make of Rugby League one of the major sports in Europe.

I know some supporters in England are worried about welcoming French teams, but it is clear that Rugby League can not compete as a professional sport by being limited to the M62 in England or to towns of 10,000 habitants in the South of France. The europeanisation of the competition is a good process for everybody. We can expect the coverage from Sky to increase, money from sponsors to come and more people to practice the game.

Yep they were good, I think they were completely unshaped in the first matches: no matches of preparation, almost one year without competition. I hope they will win their spot in SL on the field and not just because they represent a good prospect financially.

Don't worry too much about your outfit. The trip to Toulouse was never going to be easy. They have gain confidence after their victory at Batley and this match was very important for them to show that they can do it in Championship against a strong side.

Aye, Dave - and none of them at Leigh!!

I feel somewhat guilty at posting on this topic, not having been to the game. But I did see it on the internet, and it did seem typical of many of our performances to date:-

'One-up' rugby most of the time.
Offloading onto the ground, or up in the air, & passing to the opposition
Very few breaks.
Inability to cope with the opposition moving the ball wide - how many men did they seem to have, when they moved it wide?!
Taking the dummy!
Penalty kicks 'gaining' 5/10 metres - compare our efforts with theirs!

One thing that was unusual - we won the penalty count, something like 12-6. However, this extra possession merely added to our embarrassment, by highlighting how clueless we were!

For once, the spirit/enthusiasm/tenacity wasn't there to save us - and we looked very poor.

At the start of the season, I was shouted down, when I expressed fears about relegation. My fears are increasing! We are currently averaging 18 points per game, and seem to go very lengthy periods without scoring. Only three teams have scored less than us - and two of them have played less games!

been saying for months yorky boy inst up to it trouble is contract signed or not he will cost too much to get rid of, as for more players and putting more money in get real there aint room under the salary cap and if people cant see that by god your thick.



Kelly out put Rowley in as team coach and bring in a director of rugby (Mr C won't like this

) I'd give the job to John Fieldhouse (as long as his lad signs for us

). Just spak to the players as to who they would like as coach.

You'll be pleased to hear they have all gone Mo - keep the faith.
That should be 500ish in the South stand