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| Quote ="Dick Jones"It definately needs clarifing what its is and how it can help us thats for sure.'"
Financial assistance? Other than that I can't see why our club would do this
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Quote ="JENKY"Alan , as you seem in close contact with the club on this arrangement would it be possible to ask Trevor why he changed his stance on it (or if indeed he did change his stance on this - did he know what was going on as it seems strange for a opinion to alter so quickly at CEO level at Leigh ? ), its clear Trevor knew any 'partnership' would damage Leigh's SL chances when he wrote his piece in the programme in January stating we won't be forming a partnership with Wigan as we beLeighve etc, but 8 weeks later Leigh have entered into a partnership.'"
Got a lot on my plate, at the moment Jenky. Why not drop Trevor a line? ( trevor.barton@leighrl.co.uk) It's better from the 'horse's mouth' as, to be honest, I can't remember who said what, or when!
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Quote ="JENKY"Alan , as you seem in close contact with the club on this arrangement would it be possible to ask Trevor why he changed his stance on it (or if indeed he did change his stance on this - did he know what was going on as it seems strange for a opinion to alter so quickly at CEO level at Leigh ? ), its clear Trevor knew any 'partnership' would damage Leigh's SL chances when he wrote his piece in the programme in January stating we won't be forming a partnership with Wigan as we beLeighve etc, but 8 weeks later Leigh have entered into a partnership.'"
Got a lot on my plate, at the moment Jenky. Why not drop Trevor a line? ( trevor.barton@leighrl.co.uk) It's better from the 'horse's mouth' as, to be honest, I can't remember who said what, or when!
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"The no restriction bit will kick in when, as Radlinski has been quoted on, Wigan have got a 27 year old player coming back from injury so they send him to us for a week or two to regain his match fitness. I know that you will rightly point to the agreement that has been signed etc etc, but it's also been quoted that we would "never enter in to a partnership with Wigan or any other club" and look how that turned out!'"
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[i“I see this as a real chance for both clubs to work together for the benefit of rugby league across the Borough of Wigan, as a Club we can benefit in a number of ways which includes the opportunity for some of our players to gain vital first team football at Championship level. For Leigh this provides an enhanced squad for them to choose from with up to 5 players at any one time available via the dual registration or through the loan system format. Leigh has a great position within the game and both parties are keen to ensure each Club still retains its individual structures and identity.”[/i
Where's the bit about the returning 27 year-old? Is it published somewhere else? PR would not sanction that happening.
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"We should have the "We Hate Wigan" chant going at every game from now until Leigh see sense and pull out of this agreement. What ever happened to BeLEIGHve?'"
Wigan Wigan Wigan Wigan... How's about that chant??
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"I'm going to see how it goes but we do really need to learn all about using the media and comunication skills , as we are terrible at it!
When we have good news we wait till it's leaked and the club don't get maxium effect from releasing it. When it's bad news or this latest one, it gets sneaked in the Reporter but very vague so no one really knows what happening. =#FF0000Why wasn't it in the programme Thursday as the club knew all about it then? If something goods comes out of this then great but it could now bite us on the bum big time which is terrible after all the hard work that's been done.
We have a brilliant under 20s doing really well, and some of them could play I'm sure in games like we have coming up and now are they going get a chance when Shane Wane sends us Dom manfredi Jack Hughes Sam powell etc.
It that fair on our young lads?
Or it all about we have realised with our present squad we can't win a trophy and so we are trying another way of getting there ?
To be honest if Wigan said you can have Spencer and 2 others on a season loan or dual erg I would have no concerns but could be different ones every week.
I feel sorry for our own players here too, there's Higson, Rowe , nicho who haven't played a game yet , what chance have they got now?
We don't need wigan , they need us because with a first team squad of 37 and a 19 s squad of 30, 4 of are in first team squad also but you can see the point I'm making, it suits Wigan more then us.'"
Because the programme editor was waiting for the clubs to announce it. (i.e. Leigh and Wigan)
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| Quote ="Alan"Radlinski's statement -
[i“I see this as a real chance for both clubs to work together for the benefit of rugby league across the Borough of Wigan, as a Club we can benefit in a number of ways which includes the opportunity for some of our players to gain vital first team football at Championship level. For Leigh this provides an enhanced squad for them to choose from with up to 5 players at any one time available via the dual registration or through the loan system format. Leigh has a great position within the game and both parties are keen to ensure each Club still retains its individual structures and identity.”[/i
Where's the bit about the returning 27 year-old? Is it published somewhere else? PR would not sanction that happening.'"
Radlinski can say anything he wants. It doesn't mean its a binding contract. I only see benefits for Wigan. I see Wigan playing a couple of SL games at the LSV to get the young support in this area. I see Leigh becoming the official feeder club a few years down the line.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Oh and lets not see this rubbish about junior development and player pathways as anything other than what it actually is, proffessional RL coaches would sell their grannies to buy a player before worrying about bringing through juniors if it meant winning games and a trophy
ALL of them'"
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Why, if it isn't a matter of concern did your official twitter feed post it was "disappointing news"?
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Why, if it isn't a matter of concern did your official twitter feed post it was "disappointing news"?
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| Quote ="Alan"Try floating that one past our coach!'"
Not a problem , he told me we can be competitive in SL on attendances of 3,500 , when everbody else needs 10,000
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| I despair of some folk. I truly understand fans' concerns.
They demand information and when they get it they say it's lies, and 'read between the lines'! I'm coming to the conclusion that information and facts are dangerous. Maybe it's far better that supporters just make up their own information - that's what many on here do anyway.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not a problem
, he told me we can be competitive in SL on attendances of 3,500 , when everbody else needs 10,000'"
I too would have to see that one in action, yet have you seen the calculations? Ask Ian Leneghan why he needs 10,000. Ask Marwan Koukash why Salford needed 9,000, before his arrival. Ask about the rents both those clubs are paying. Ask LSV how much we are paying.
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| Can some one please clear one thing up for me. What is the difference between a Warrington DC and a Wigan DC?
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"I want to see full Leigh players not Wigan loans or DC's playing for Leigh.'"
You will be asking for Birth certificates next , only Leigh born players .
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| What I don't understand is with Lisa being a shareholder how did Lynda and the others vote
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| Quote ="Alan"I too would have to see that one in action, yet have you seen the calculations? Ask Ian Leneghan why he needs 10,000. Ask Marwan Koukash why Salford needed 9,000, before his arrival. Ask about the rents both those clubs are paying. Ask LSV how much we are paying.'"
I don't see any concerns with this agreement and don't see it being much different to what's been happening over the last couple of seasons.
We are LEIGH CENTURIONS of LEIGH our own town with our own team with our own stadium and own history and standing within the game of RL.
We are at this current time operating on sub 1500 crowds outside of the top tear of RL with no promotion or relegation and in reality are fourth in line if any PR were reinstated both on and off the pitch
This agreement is more about the benifits of the whole borough and development of youth and giving young people a clearly defined pathway weather that be at elite level with Wigan or just below with Leigh.
There will be a clear route for players in the community and the borough produces enough quality players to service two professional clubs and two super league clubs hopefully one day. This agreement may for example stop the next Rob Parker being lost to Bradford for example if he comes through the Leigh amateur game and joins Bradford what benifit to Leigh do we see from our community clubs efforts to develope quality youth.
This system gives us access to a higher calibre of player Tom Sencer for example has come to Leigh and has now got Leigh in his heart and will bust a gut for Leigh Centurions. We also get the likes of Thornley who has not made the grade at Wigan but is more than good enough to add value to us and still has time on his side to play SL later down the line.
Drop the old school we hate Wigan mentality and look at the big picture is my advice.
Final thought we need to get our heads out of the sand when we do make it to SL we wont be in direct comp with Wigan hey are an RL giant and elite level club wenneed to model ourselves on and learn from while keeping our SL ambition and developing a club and suport base. What good is the next Tommy Martyn to Leigh if he joins Oldham and subsequently St Helen's? If he's kept in the community and goes on to rule the world with Wigan and we see his early years and benifit from his full time elite professional coaching knowledgehe will have find memories of his home town club and want to come back.
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| I am not having a go at anyone here i am just really curious, How many people on this thread actually go watching Leigh at this present time ( not used to ) every game either Home games or home/Away games ??? If you don't for whatever reason ( and I know some are very good reasons ) of which I suspect there are a good few of you I don't understand why you feel the need to bad mouth decisions ( good or bad ones ) as it really does not effect you one way or the other because you have all ready given up on the Leigh Centurions anyway !!
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| Quote ="maurice"What I don't understand is with Lisa being a shareholder how did Lynda and the others vote'"
Lisa don't hold any actual voting shares and don't own any portion of the Ltd company do they?
Correct me if I'm wrong?
The main thing stopping the club going forward in my opinion. From what I can see is the amount of share holders (not active directors) holding on to shares which are effectively worth nothing and strangling the club and chances of ever moving on and attracting new investors or even a supporters share trust.
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| Well JC hasn't been a regular this season even before this announcement. When he did come he always went in the North Stand and paid £16 not the £18 he seems to think it is now.
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| Ps sorry for the poor punctuation and spelling typing on wife's IPAD is hard work
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| Quote ="concerned leyther"I don't see any concerns with this agreement and don't see it being much different to what's been happening over the last couple of seasons.
We are LEIGH CENTURIONS of LEIGH our own town with our own team with our own stadium and own history and standing within the game of RL.
We are at this current time operating on sub 1500 crowds outside of the top tear of RL with no promotion or relegation and in reality are fourth in line if any PR were reinstated both on and off the pitch
This agreement is more about the benifits of the whole borough and development of youth and giving young people a clearly defined pathway weather that be at elite level with Wigan or just below with Leigh.
There will be a clear route for players in the community and the borough produces enough quality players to service two professional clubs and two super league clubs hopefully one day. This agreement may for example stop the next Rob Parker being lost to Bradford for example if he comes through the Leigh amateur game and joins Bradford what benifit to Leigh do we see from our community clubs efforts to develope quality youth.
This system gives us access to a higher calibre of player Tom Sencer for example has come to Leigh and has now got Leigh in his heart and will bust a gut for Leigh Centurions. We also get the likes of Thornley who has not made the grade at Wigan but is more than good enough to add value to us and still has time on his side to play SL later down the line.
Drop the old school we hate Wigan mentality and look at the big picture is my advice.
Final thought we need to get our heads out of the sand when we do make it to SL we wont be in direct comp with Wigan hey are an RL giant and elite level club wenneed to model ourselves on and learn from while keeping our SL ambition and developing a club and suport base. What good is the next Tommy Martyn to Leigh if he joins Oldham and subsequently St Helen's? If he's kept in the community and goes on to rule the world with Wigan and we see his early years and benifit from his full time elite professional coaching knowledgehe will have find memories of his home town club and want to come back.'"
Oh right so the benefit is we will now be able to get players from say Leigh MR or St Judes, or New Spring Lions.
Or if a player from Ince Rose bridge doesn't make the grade at Wigan he will now get second chance at Leigh.
Fantastic none of that has ever happened previously.
Something really new is now every kid who as ambition must not go out of the borough.
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| Quote ="The Publican"I am not having a go at anyone here i am just really curious, How many people on this thread actually go watching Leigh at this present time ( not used to ) every game either Home games or home/Away games ??? If you don't for whatever reason ( and I know some are very good reasons ) of which I suspect there are a good few of you I don't understand why you feel the need to bad mouth decisions ( good or bad ones ) as it really does not effect you one way or the other because you have all ready given up on the Leigh Centurions anyway !!'"
I went up until Thursday.
But are you saying just because our Canadian friend doesn't attend LSV he's not a supporter?
And as far as I know Starbug is a shareholder surely he's allowed an input?
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| Quote ="glow"Oh right so the benefit is we will now be able to get players from say Leigh MR or St Judes, or New Spring Lions.
Or if a player from Ince Rose bridge doesn't make the grade at Wigan he will now get second chance at Leigh.
Fantastic none of that has ever happened previously.
Something really new is now every kid who as ambition must not go out of the borough.'"
The emphasis as I see it is on the big picture and the RL community as a whole you are looking at this from a Leigh centurions perspective only.
It will benifit Wigan of course but also but also Leigh in many ways but it's not the be all and end all of agreement that was my point.
We have to look at the bigger picture sometimes and the whole RL community
Were did I say anything was new it's more a change of focus and putting the whole community into consideration the way I see it but I'm not old fashioned and anti Wigan so what do I know I must not be a real leyther if I don't hate Wigan
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| Quote ="Alan"Try floating that one past our coach!'"
Is this the same coach who has always said we wouldn't go in partnership with Wigan ?
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Tried that with Trevor in the past when Wigan he first said we wouldn't be merging with Wigan, regretfully he didn't reply so was hoping you'd get a answer (in fairness you and the 'Parkys' seem to be the only people at the club capable of getting information to the fans)
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Quote ="Alan"Got a lot on my plate, at the moment Jenky. Why not drop Trevor a line? (trevor.barton@leighrl.co.uk) It's better from the 'horse's mouth' as, to be honest, I can't remember who said what, or when!'"
Tried that with Trevor in the past when Wigan he first said we wouldn't be merging with Wigan, regretfully he didn't reply so was hoping you'd get a answer (in fairness you and the 'Parkys' seem to be the only people at the club capable of getting information to the fans)
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