It's close season it's all about the banter!!. Leiwig warrior centaurs!. Kinda like that name.

Be gone yorkie troll.

I shall not be moved lancy ogre !!. Lol

as Ive already said
I asked the coach and thats what he told me and I believe him, he rang me about something completely unrelated and I hit him with the question, he he didn't have have time to plan what to say or try and disguise anything as some seem to think.
This years set up with Wigan is like last year, except we wont have the option of Wire players so its likely we will have more Wigan players then last year.

If people don't want us to continue this partnership then they will have to find ways of bringing more income into the club as the squad we have signed up now is because its all we can afford on the budget Pauls been given.

So if we could find a couple of hundred more LISA members and 100 more touchdown members will would probably be able to manage without duals.

I see some things on here do not change Lynda as you well know some folk would sooner believe what some prawn that has rock all to do with our club says than someone who finds out answers for them, paranoia is alive and lives in Leigh.
I also have spoken to Paul re the subject of DC's on a number of occassions and his view has never changed on the subject, yes he would prefer to play Leigh signed players only but until he has a budget that allows him to do that he will utilise any player that fits and ONLY FITS into the ethos he has put in place in the dressing room, he will NOT be forced into playing any player he does not want.
Plus IMO anything we can use that ANY club wishes to provide us with in the matter of anything to give us an edge on and off the field can only benefit us, if it also benefits them all well and good.
Now if people want to believe what a washed up bottle kicking pratt and his mindless supporters has to say well let them.
IF (note the word IF as I have no idea what is planned or not) there is some way Wigan Warriors and ourselves have a way of getting our great game pushed to the fore in the schools throughout the Borough then it cant be a conflict of interest as they are all in the same education authority and a joint venture makes sense as it isnt a competition, I helped put in place a joint venture amongst the schools in the borough back in the 90's and as a result all benefitted ( I hope) and not just a few, parochialism has no place these days in Rugby League esp[ecially when dealing with the youth.

So when the joint Wigan and Leigh community partnership roll up to local schools, there is no comflict of interest??

" Right pupils you have heard all about the great game of Rugby League and now it's time you sampled the atmosphere of a live match. We want you to be the new generation of supporters for the greatest game - OK those wanting Wigan v Saints Super League tickets form an orderley line here, those wanting Leigh v Workington tickets just go over there please and we will be with you shortly"

Yes I can see no conflict of interest either

You gotta laugh haven't you

Bit rich coming from you when you was spouting off on the Swinton forum about our chairman having no ambition.

THis came about because we have a Trustee of Wigans Community trust as a director these days

One notices that you did not quote my bit about no parochialism, anyone with half a brain would work out that leigh area schools would be covered by Leigh staff, so with thinking like yours your quite correct you gotta laugh



work it out yourself look at the big picture. Giving tickets away isnt about community work so again your ignorance shines through



Half baked replies like jnrs above just reminded me why I have not been on here for a while and why I wont be on again for another while.

Not wishing to open a can of worms as the explanation Rowley gave Lynda tended to calm some nerves for a few people.
However must admit I'll show my ignorance and admit I wasn't aware we had a partnership with Wigan Warriors last season and thought we just took duals that fitted into the coaches plans from any club so was a touch surprised that we do have such a agreement in place.

Could someone tell me what the actual agreement is then (in terms of what do we get from Wigan Warriors, how many players from Wigan Warriors will play for Leigh Centurions at one time and what do Wigan Warriors get out of the agreement, do we agree to give their players a certain amount of game time for instance) ?

Just one final point, do we have partnerships with Leigh East and Leigh Miners (and all the other local clubs) on similar models to the Wigan one we have ?

Well lets put it this way.

I have no influence with our coaching staff or Board of Directors.

I have followed our club since 1956.

I thought licenscing was the wrong way to go for the pro game and I also think this latest Twinning idea is plain crazy and is a blatent excuse for giving the current Cartel' which now exists for the clubs currently and ridiculously exempt from relegation' an opportunity to save money at the expense of clubs who can never aspire' or currently never think they can aspire to be in the top league of our game.

Why would anyone be a coach of our club' or on our Board of Directors if they thought all our club could do is provide a training camp for Non Relegation club reserves but not at the Non Relegation clubs expense ?

In my time watching pro RL there isn't one UK side I haven't see Leigh beat although we never beat one club who no longer exists.

Leigh RLFC being a feeder club for the Pies'who incidentally' still owe our club for a set of shirts' is not possible and if you are a Leyther why don't you know that ?

Perhaps on your next visit you would explain how Leigh Schools being covered by Leigh staff isn't parochialism.

Well Fred and I don't always agree' however his point is that youth who take up the game' should be encouraged whatever parish their trainers come from.

I think people forget how much "pie people" have contributed to our team over the years!
In recent memory would fans rather Keiron Purtill, Andy Fairclough, John Duffy, Chris Hill etc had not played for us?
I know it is a two way street and Betts, Gidart etc went the other way but we are too geographically close for it to be otherwise.
As long as we are a stand alone club I will welcome pie-eaters to the fold!
I did marry a Wiganner though so maybe I'm getting soft...

Its the fans forum on the 7th November, all with concerns(if they can wait till then) must attend and voice these concerns.
If people can't wait till then I suggest they ring the club or call in and see what the club tells them, rather then let other clubs fans, and managers wind them up.

Lynda I am grateful to you for asking, (like Alan and Fred do on occasions), but like others I wasn’t aware we even had a Partnership last season with any club, was you or anyone on here?

Doesn’t this make Harrison right, in that we do currently have a partnership with Wigan? Whether he’s right in the context of the new SL/Championships partnerships or our partnership is a different animal, I don’t know.

But unless the club come out and clarify it then they can’t moan if people get hold of the wrong end of a ty stick, and decide to keep away.

Paul did say, however" we were equal partners"

So it means that we are equal partners but there is no partnership. Couldn't be clearer.

Toady you are so right





i to married a Wiganer , you forgot to add my owd mate Dave Ingram to this lot , they have all served the Leigh Club well id love to see youngsters like Lewis Tierney , and George Williams play at Leigh in a couple of years time , but again Leigh MUST be a Stand Alone club .

I don't believe that our independence is being jeopardised by any part of the current arrangement with Wigan. If I believed for a moment that it was then I'd be raising a resistance army and planning to march on Pieland to bring death and destruction.

The way I see it, neither club are under any onerous obligations.



There is a partnership. What there isn't is of the RFL's god awful formal twinning partnerships in place.

Very True Michael , i to would be Totally against anything that would threaten our Independance , but it wont happen , many Wiganers i know have been saying for a while now "We should help Leigh ", and i feel the D-R system does benefit both clubs , i was told this morning that young Sam Powell would be a good D-R for us .

The way you see what? I haven’t seen anything other than the RFL statement about twinning partnerships.

The DC arrangement was brought in by the RFL operating rules a couple of seasons back. Is it allowed in the RFL operating rules to have DC’s from a club without having their Twinning partnership agreement in place?

I know people are saying its not an issue it’s the same as last time, how do we know that, when most didn’t even know we had one last season

If we had this arrangement with Warrington, would you be as worried/concerned? Or is it because its Wigan?

If you’re asking me, its anyone

Trialist, loan’s, dc’s have always been part of the game, but formal partnerships with one other club, they deciding which 5 from 8 (or whatever it is) you can have*. Plus possibly supplying coaches (perhaps not this year but...), takes it to a whole new level.


*Yes I know they have decided previously if a certain dc is available or not, but at least we could tell them to stuff it and go elsewhere.

The way things stand at the moment, the D/C arrangement will work much like last season, except there will be 5, rather than 4, and it appears we may be restricted to taking them from one club. (and let's face it, there could be worse clubs than W***n to take them from) I honestly do not believe it will be a case of "perm 5 from 8" or any other number, although remember, last season we could use more than 4, (e.g. Brierley, Spencer, Laithwaite, Mendeika, Shaw, Nash) but could only have 4 at any one time.

Also, is there anything stopping us taking someone on LOAN, from say Warrington, in the new arrangement, which only appears to cover D/C's?

I do not believe the club has signed up to any actual arrangement with any SL club, as yet. Now, it could well be that they do enter into an arrangement with say W***n, but that arrangement would be for the mutual benefit of BOTH clubs. Whatever the arrangement, I cannot for the life of me see it being "twinning' or as a "feeder" club. Our BOD is acutely aware of our need to retain our name and independence, for the club to progress.