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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"I agree , but Jukes has to get Baptiste into the 17 and it is Mortimer who is the fall guy from the Toulouse defeat. Reynolds will survive another week. Hall is also under scrutiny.'" I'm not saying Mortimer had a good game but Reynolds has not had a good game for a while including last year
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"I agree , but Jukes has to get Baptiste into the 17 and it is Mortimer who is the fall guy =#FF0000from the Toulouse defeat. Reynolds will survive another week. Hall is also under scrutiny.'"
Hope that doesn't turn out to be prophetic Harold!
Too many foreign teams in this league!!
We're all after Reynolds' blood, but I don't remember his half back partner contributing a lot - except a couple of breaks, each culminating in him falling on his backside!
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| Quote ="Alan"Hope that doesn't turn out to be prophetic Harold!
Too many foreign teams in this league!!
We're all after Reynolds' blood, but I don't remember his half back partner contributing a lot - except a couple of breaks, each culminating in him falling on his backside!'"
Not really much from Hutchison either. Only the old McNally arm waves.
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| Quote ="atomic"Not really much from Hutchison either. Only the old McNally arm waves.'"
That's what I was saying.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"I thought Jukes was a little aggressive at the players Q&A night when a supporter asked him a genuine question about the style of rugby we will play.
[iSupporter:[/i " Are we going to play the same boring one man drive Rugby League?
[iJukes:[/i (Uncomfortable) " So you want us to play that same style of Rugby League that the previous coach had us playing that saw us finish bottom? That got us no where"
[iSupporter:[/i (Quick as a flash) "No I want us to play with a similar style to Castleford who prove it can be done and finish top of Super League and appear at Old Trafford"
[iJukes:[/i ( Visibly ruffled, tone increased, in front of the players, pointing) "Well if YOU give me Zak Hardaker and Luke Gale , I will play like that"
Jukes seems to forget he got us relegated from Super League, despite a massive financial outlay, playing his one man drive Rugby League.
I would never want my beloved Leigh Rugby Football club to lose a match but I have increasingly come to the conclusion (as Harry - Great Name ) that Neil Jukes is the wrong man. He really is.
Derek however will not fire him as 1) It will prove to Paul Rowley , that he was/ well is a far more talented coach than Jukes and 2) that Derek himself made a monumental mistake in appointing Jukes after Rowley.'"
It was a particularly cringeworthy exchange, as you say, he style of rugby was a losing one last season. The stats against HKR in the 8s told their own story, high completion rate but pitiful metres gained as we watched a team more bothered about not making mistakes than they were about scoring tries. There was also an interview last year where Jukes was asked about fans booing, where he said "I don't know what they expect", well I'll tell you Neil, we expected something not as abject as was served up!
KC's remarks during the Q&A were also interesting. He talked about how the culture of the club was all wrong and how the owner needs to trust his heads of departments. Culture goes all the way to the top, and DB has to take responsibility. If he wants his money to have the effect of creating an established SL club, then he needs to step away from the playing side completely and let his head of rugby be the go between for players and the board. He also needs to judge his head coach based on results and not his ego and a vendetta against Rowley.
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| Quote ="Alan"
We're all after Reynolds' blood, but I don't remember his half back partner contributing a lot - except a couple of breaks, each culminating in him falling on his backside!'"
He was the one who missed a straightforward tackle on Brierley that let him through for his try.
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| Quote ="joanne callotte"He was the one who missed a straightforward tackle on Brierley that let him through for his try.'"
Yes, undone by pace, as we were for Paterson and Kay's long range tries. (both 'created' by Ben!)
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| Would like to see how the VR would have viewed that move, well executed but probably obstruction, have a look on you tube
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| Yes thought that at the time, neutral mate thought
Relatively new ref got conned more than once by Bob and his merry men. Odd to have Mr Hicks running the line such a big game.
I thought Mortimer tried really hard to inject some spark.
Was salivating at thought of 3 NRL players at 6,7,9 you would have expected the coach to want to see what this would bring us?
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| Well I am hearing Mortimer and Hall are at risk of being dropped ???
I find that a tad bizarre. Perhaps Montyburns can confirm that as utter bobbins
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| Quote ="Alan"Hope that doesn't turn out to be prophetic Harold!
Too many foreign teams in this
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Where on earth Toulouse came from Alan I have no idea. Maybe the Toronto ( ) defeat affected me more than I thought
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Well I am hearing Mortimer and Hall are at risk of being dropped ???
I find that a tad bizarre. Perhaps Montyburns can confirm that as utter bobbins
I hope so. I think Hall has been solid.'"
Hall looked very good for me, looks strong and quite pacy, certainly a better option than Owens or Bailey, however they may be better at backing up as we didn't capitalise on the breaks we made.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Well I am hearing Mortimer and Hall are at risk of being dropped ???
I find that a tad bizarre. Perhaps Montyburns can confirm that as utter bobbins
I hope so. I think Hall has been solid.'"
I thought Hall had a decent game, getting us out of some tight defensive situations, with skill. At the moment, I also feel that he is the one player who could gain us more than ten metres from penalties. (if we get any, that is!) To axe Mortimer, would seem an odd way of getting Baptiste into the team.
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| Our right edge is weak. I wouldn't mind Mortimer (@ SO),(Hall @ Centre), And Owens @ FB, and Crooks to miss out. If and when Evans is fit, then Dawson Jones would also miss out. Bergal has done nowt wrong either. We need to get serious who should be in this team. I also think that Dezaria has been ok in the warm ups with some nice offloads,something we failed to do last week. After saying this,expect our coaches to make a big F*** Up once again and maybe just scrape a win. Then again, what do i know?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Our right edge is weak. I wouldn't mind Mortimer (@ SO),(Hall @ Centre), And Owens @ FB, and Crooks to miss out. If and when Evans is fit, then Dawson Jones would also miss out. Bergal has done nowt wrong either. We need to get serious who should be in this team. I also think that Dezaria has been ok in the warm ups with some nice offloads,something we failed to do last week. After saying this,expect our coaches to make a big F*** Up once again and maybe just scrape a win. Then again, what do i know?'"
Charlie knows , Derek.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Charlie knows , Derek.'"
Ah, But what does a clown know? And no juggling the team around.
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| I said it last year and I still have the same opinion. Reynolds is not the player we need at 6. I have nothing against him as he works hard but he just doesn’t have the pace, kicking game and overall game management skills.
I believe Jukes should get 5 more games to sort things but if Baptiste is in and he selects Reynolds at 6 over Mortimer/Hutchinson combo this weekend, then I will have to rethink that 5 game allowance.
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"I said it last year and I still have the same opinion. Reynolds is not the player we need at 6. I have nothing against him as he works hard but he just doesn’t have the pace, kicking game and overall game management skills.
I believe Jukes should get 5 more games to sort things but if Baptiste is in and he selects Reynolds at 6 over Mortimer/Hutchinson combo this weekend, then I will have to rethink that 5 game allowance.'"
Jukes/KC - I honestly believe they are working together, everyone witnessed what their respective teams served up before they came together, now we have the dullest least imaginative brand of football played by any team in the RFL - but back to your point they cannot surely leave Mortimer out can they? If on nothing else but last weeks performance Baptiste has to come in, partnered by Hood, and Hutchinson and Mortimer at 6 and 7, anything other than that will proove that the coaches are just being totally pig headed or they simply have not got any vision between them.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Jukes/KC - I honestly believe they are working together, everyone witnessed what their respective teams served up before they came together, now we have the dullest least imaginative brand of football played by any team in the RFL - but back to your point they cannot surely leave Mortimer out can they? If on nothing else but last weeks performance Baptiste has to come in, partnered by Hood, and Hutchinson and Mortimer at 6 and 7, anything other than that will proove that the coaches are just being totally pig headed or they simply have not got any vision between them.'"
Hutchinson,dosen't do it for me, predictable positioning..
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| Quote ="atomic"Hutchinson,dosen't do it for me, predictable positioning..'"
If he gets the runners we will tear teams apart, whether we get them/have them remains to be seen
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| Quote ="atomic"Hutchinson,dosen't do it for me, predictable positioning..'"
He needs a partner who can adapt to variable positioning. Reynolds is not that partner in my opinion as he doesn’t have the vision and ability to adapt to what’s in front of him. We have that player but our coach didn’t play him..... we also have a player that can marshal the team and be the motivator Higham used to be... but our coach didn’t play him. If he was injured then fair do’s but I’ve not seen that stated anywhere. I’m very big on loyalty and supporting the whole club/team but I’m starting to lose my faith in our coaching staff.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Well I am hearing Mortimer and Hall are at risk of being dropped ???
I find that a tad bizarre.'"
So it is confirmed in my book. Our coach really has lost the plot as I suspected.
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| Quote ="atomic"Hutchinson,dosen't do it for me, predictable positioning..'"
Hutchisons speed of thought is miles ahead of his most of his team mates. A Deserving MOM of today. His play for Actons try was just sublime.
We need to find him a proper HB partner that's what we need to do,
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"I said it last year and I still have the same opinion. Reynolds is not the player we need at 6. I have nothing against him as he works hard but he just doesn’t have the pace, kicking game and overall game management skills.
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I concur, however I believe sadly Baptiste may have picked up an injury that will keep him on the sidelines for a prolonged spell.
Pity that, I thought he showed up particularly well today on his debut.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"I concur, however I believe sadly Baptiste may have picked up an injury that will keep him on the sidelines for a prolonged spell.
Pity that, I thought he showed up particularly well today on his debut.'"
Its the other shoulder to his already dodgy one too.
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