Could performance related contracts be given as a bonus incentive at the end of the season? e.g. Iv'e already said this.....1 year contract £xxxx ,finish top 4 then offer another year contract with again £xxxx,get promoted and get an increased £xxxx contract? If this is not possible ,then we're playing casino rugby.

I should also add,would players actually accept that anyway?

It was 50K each from the other 10 to whoever lost the MPG , as I put earlier it was the French they were worried about IMO

It was 50K each from the other 10 to whoever lost the MPG , as I put earlier it was the French they were worried about IMO

So are you saying Catalans didn't have to cough owt up?

We do generate income don't forget , and also there are plenty of other costs , and ultimately only Derek knows for sure what the last 4/5 years have cost him , and it is only his business , not ours

Personally , I'd say it has been a fair old wedge , something I warned Derek not to do 7/8 years ago , because I know him , there are no half measures with him , it's ALL IN or nothing

It was the Canadians, I am fairly certain about that.

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Well he's gone all in,and now we've got nothing.

The generated income from the SL season, going where?

It was an announcement on the club website about the official end of season player awards night.

Apologies, press release was a poor choice of phrase.

But still, could it be significant?

No idea , or as you suggest wether they would accept them

Personally I'd pay them all the same

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But it looks like Degsey doesn't want to.

Fairly sure it was reported as such , it was only decided upon and voted on the meeting the week prior to the MPG as an insurance policy against Catalans dropping down and losing their income from their TV deal

Course it was Harold

You spend you income in the season you earn it , you make an assessment of what you think you will earn and set your budget accordingly , if you fall short , then somebody ( owner directors ) has to make up the difference , which is why we find ourselves where we currently are , as I said , non of my business but if we did keep this years squad then I reckon Derek would be looking at chucking in a million + next season

So the question is despite him rubber stamping the contracts would I want him risking his business to subsidise MY match ticket ?

NO

Maybe he doesn't want to , maybe he isn't in a position to , either way it's his call , personally I'm happy for him to do what's best for himself

My take with Derek is He let the whole Paul Rowley / Toronto saga consume him IMO.

It was because of it, and a burning desire from Derek for Jukes to succeed and prove to be a far better coach than Rowley, and show Derek's decison to appoint Neil as his successor as the right one , that he was allowed to continue as head coach way beyond the point where is time was clearly up.

When a coach loses his dressing room, there is inevitably only ever one outcome.

Unfortunately, Derek going against the tried and tested methodology saw it differently and instead of the coach being shown the door, the players were. It proved to be the recipe for complete disaster.

Every other contributory factor is just secondary. IMHO of course.

Pretty sure DB made a comment stating the parachute payment decision by SL, concerning any relegated SL club was made mid season.

Totally agree there Harold.

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Quite possibly an accurate assessment Harold , for me I believe coaches are changed too often , I cite Sean Daish at Burnley , they stood by him when they were relegated and were rewarded with a second promotion and a 7 th finish

You might well be correct , although haven't heard any mention of it being repeated this year , it does seem plausible that the Catalans would have lost considerable income had they dropped to the Championship

I am not sure about that.

I seem to recall from Derek, it was voted for at the beginning of the season by SL clubs. Derek voted in favour for it, never believing for one moment we would benefit from it.

As this is a match performance thread , a very good performance by the players on Sunday ' the week off will do us good , hopefully seeing a few bruises being eased for our visit to Fev

Charlie could have picked a team from the squad we had v Barrow.. H

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I agree as well ,I think we have all heard stories and rumours about Paul departure,and what happened,it would be great if the truth came out ,one day but I can't see it,I think it was a case of whether one calls or raises the antenna, and got into a personal vendetta.
Myself I've always liked Paul,I'd even have him back , but I can't see it happening, I'd love to see Ryan B return, and maybe Adam Higson,could KP be the Coach to lead us into a new era ?I really hope so, I once told Darren Abram when he was long gone and forgotten, I would still be a Leigh fan, the same goes for Derek, if he goes or stays, I will stay.Charlie knows.

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Me too Ian,although i think a lot won't.