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| I agree its all about the word Wigan as like Frank said nobody batted an eyelid when the DCs were coming from Warrington .As long as Leigh don't abuse the system like Swinton have then I don't see a problem as its exactly like last season and the season before and just because Wigan have x amount of players under 23 that can come to Leigh does not mean they are all good enough to play in our 1st team .
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| I'm going to see how it goes but we do really need to learn all about using the media and comunication skills , as we are terrible at it!
When we have good news we wait till it's leaked and the club don't get maxium effect from releasing it. When it's bad news or this latest one, it gets sneaked in the Reporter but very vague so no one really knows what happening.
Why wasn't it in the programme Thursday as the club knew all about it then ??
If something goods comes out of this then great but it could now bite us on the bum big time which is terrible after all the hard work that's been done.
We have a brilliant under 20s doing really well, and some of them could play I'm sure in games like we have coming up and now are they going get a chance when Shane Wane sends us Dom manfredi Jack Hughes Sam powell etc.
It that fair on our young lads?
Or it all about we have realised with our present squad we can't win a trophy and so we are trying another way of getting there ?
To be honest if Wigan said you can have Spencer and 2 others on a season loan or dual erg I would have no concerns but could be different ones every week.
I feel sorry for our own players here too, there's Higson, Rowe , nicho who haven't played a game yet , what chance have they got now?
We don't need wigan , they need us because with a first team squad of 37 and a 19 s squad of 30, 4 of are in first team squad also but you can see the point I'm making, it suits Wigan more then us.
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| However much you want to dress this up, it is a partnership/twinning with Wigan. It is the thin edge of the wedge before we are the official feeder club for Wigan after the next set of licences in 2015, when there will be no P&R reintroduced. Something as bad tasting as being the feeder club for Wigan has to be brought in gradually and this is the start of it. How long before we see Wigan playing a game at the LSV to get the young fans in the Leigh area watching them. I was brought up with a real hatred of Wigan in the derby games and I just can't accept any arrangement with Wigan.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"Quite right Kevster.
It is an agreement with Wigan and that is essentially the problem for a lot of those who are angry about this.
Our club WILL NOT and CANNOT play any Wigan first teamer over 23 years of age.
We will take the odd player on loan for sure but the main thrust of the agreement is developing younger players in the Leigh and Wigan area.
This is no different than what our club did last season with Warrington but now it is Wigan there are those who cannot agree with that.
Then there will be those who will invent a scenario where this will change. It won't but they just want to believe i will as tbh I think they have just got fed up of watching our team.'"
Those "supposed" made up scenarios have all come true in the last 3 or 4 years.
I'll tell you another made up scenario - next season YOUR club will be running with a much reduced contracted squad next season and YOUR club will be using masses of players from one club on loans and dr.
I cant wait for next seasons big lancashire derby - junior warriors vs junior wolves,great value at only £18.
Have fun Frank i'll see you at miners and east on saturdays
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| If it works like what we had with Warrington or even last year, then people wont have a problem with it. I certainly wont, but I dont trust Wane.
If Wane decides to manipulate us and tell us who to play then its a big problem, Wigan wouldn't have agreed to anything that isn't in their favour.
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| The only club to benefit from it will be Wigan. They're not bothered about Leigh. This agreement will cut their costs and help to develop their young talent. Headlines in 2015 - Leigh agree to become official feeder club for Wigan Warriors.
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| So 4 ' Individually ' agreed DR agreements with potentially 4 different clubs is just the same as 5 from 19 all from 1 club?
No it isnt, when DR 1 st happened everybody was posting " I dont like it but AS LONG AS IT DOESNT GO ANY FURTHER THAN THIS I will accept it, well it HAS now gone further
Wigan need a twinned partner, it was attempted to be ' sneaked ' in before the RFL announced the new rules, then they tried Barrow, but that didnt happen, say what you want, this is ' Twinning ' and it will only get worse , it is also financial suicide, and shows the complete lack of understanding of the Leigh administration of the sporting fans ' physche '
They might as well throw the banner in the skip as to leave it on show is simply embarrasing, it is an admission of defeat
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| Oh and lets not see this rubbish about junior development and player pathways as anything other than what it actually is, proffessional RL coaches would sell their grannies to buy a player before worrying about bringing through juniors if it meant winning games and a trophy
ALL of them
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| Despite my user name, I have no hatred of Wigan, I have spent nearly 30yrs working in Wigan, I have lots of Wigan friends.
I was best man to a Wigan lad, and am godfather to his first born. And just for good measure we still meet up regularly despite me making him redundant.
Can someone please explain to me why we need this partnership?
What are the benefits to Leigh?
Why couldn’t we just simply loan a player or two?
With 21 from 37 players U23, potentially we could end up with 21 different players pulling on the Leigh shirt at some point of the season. I know that’s highly unlikely, and PR will decide who does and doesn’t play but he can only select from those they make available.
What does this do for our own development? Could under the terms of this partnership say Josh Ward now become a Wigan Player?
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| Quite simply GLOW Wigan NEED a twinned club at a higher standard than South Wales, they have to because they have essentially 2 full squads with nowhere to play them, they might well have players 20/21/22 years old who will struggle to play more than 3/4 games this year
How can that develop a player
The only saving grace to this is it might change next year when they reinstate reserve grade, in the meantime our fan base gets more dissoloutioned
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| Our club is on it's @rse because the people running it foolishly budgeted it wrong on higher attendance basis than we should have calculated for whilst still paying outstanding debts They now go & do this with wigoon so how is this going to bring in more fans? We showed last season we can challenge for silverware on a tight budget but we ran out of fit players so this season we've bought more players in (more than adequately IMO) so why the need to twin with the pies? It does make me wonder whether wigoon are financially helping out when we're really struck for cash in the exchange of bringing on THEIR PLAYERS FOR THEIR BENEFIT you scratch my back I'll scratch yours. Our club has sold it's soul R.I.P LEIGH RLFC 22/03/2013
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| We had a fans forum do you remember when Raul Rowley Trevor Barton stood up and said no way would we go into a partnership with Wigan
Am convinced this partnership is all about Wigan Borough and not Leigh RLFC
Will this CEO and the board never realise what Leigh Rlfc means to the fans last year the ceo decided we will go to Friday nights no discussion what happened their failure
Now they have come up with this partnership and this has not happened over night their must have been hrs off discussion working it out or should I say Wigan talking Leigh Listening
If and when the fan base drops the club is struggling just hope the people who have implemented it hang their heads in shame and walk away and leave the running of the club to true Leigh people not outsiders must who don’t even live in this Town
And Linda you are on the board are you now saying this arrangment has not been discussed at board meeting and you new nothing about the arrangments?
If this is correct then who has got us into this arrangement (need we ask)
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quite simply GLOW Wigan NEED a twinned club at a higher standard than South Wales, they have to because they have essentially 2 full squads with nowhere to play them, they might well have players 20/21/22 years old who will struggle to play more than 3/4 games this year
How can that develop a player
The only saving grace to this is it might change next year when they reinstate reserve grade, in the meantime our fan base gets more dissoloutioned
Words fail me'"
I understand why they need it, the question was why do we?
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| It definately needs clarifing what its is and how it can help us thats for sure.
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| Quote ="north stand"
And Linda you are on the board are you now saying this arrangment has not been discussed at board meeting and you new nothing about the arrangments?
If this is correct then who has got us into this arrangement (need we ask)'"
That's not fair, Lynda is not the BOD spokesperson on here, what gets discussed in private should remain.
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| We should have the "We Hate Wigan" chant going at every game from now until Leigh see sense and pull out of this agreement. What ever happened to BeLEIGHve?
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| Do you really think hearing that will help them play well for us?
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Do you really think hearing that will help them play well for us?'"
I want to see full Leigh players not Wigan loans or DC's playing for Leigh.
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"We should have the "We Hate Wigan" chant going at every game from now until Leigh see sense and pull out of this agreement. What ever happened to BeLEIGHve?'"
Time grow up.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"It definately needs clarifing what its is and how it can help us thats for sure.'"
I think the link in the OP clarifies everything you need to know
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| Its time for Lisa and the touchdown club to join forces and demand that trevor barton attends an open meeting and explains the "partnership"/twinning ageement with w*gan.without lisa(especially)and the touchdown club there would be no centurions .Remember only twinned clubs can register dual contract players.
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| Quote ="concerned leyther"Time grow up.'"
It was said in jest.
Maybe we should form a "Friends of Wiggin Society" then and welcome the Wigginers with open arms.
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