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| Quote ="furryenzo"Jesus you lot are really low! Boycotting games?! We were getting around 500/600 fans at the willows, in CH1 with pretty much no away support, so im pretty sure it will be nearer the 900/1000 mark in CH. Our rental package cant even be compared to yours as only one stand is being opened.
Oh, and dont take your anger out on us because your backer p****d off and left you for dead, and alot of your players left to other clubs. I still think you will finish above us next year and really dont see what your bloody problem is. Get a grip.'"
So, you are budgetting on attracting 400/500 more Swinton fans for next season are you? Just to let you know, last season the largest away following we had at the LSV was 700 from Widnes (who are now in SL). After that came 200 from Fev who were the defending champions and 150 from Halifax. The remainder brought between 30 and 70. I hope your budget is not counting on 400 away fans turning up at every game.
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| They have budgeted for 2000 Leigh fans to turn up tho at "their" home game!!! problem solved!!!
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| I think we are getting angry at Swinton because they have signed some good players and it is not Swinton's fault that we find ourselves in the situation we are in.
We should be concentrating on our current position not theirs imo and quite frankly I am astonished at the team we will be able to field this coming season. A scenario most of us would not have considered a possibility a couple of months ago.
Well done to our current board I say.
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| Have they changed your medication, Frank? I don't think you've ever spoken half as much sense as you've posted there!
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| I don't really care but if they come on this board they got to taks some flack imo plus the lack of away support at LSV is one of my favourite topics
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| Quote ="frankb"I think we are getting angry at Swinton because they have signed some good players and it is not Swinton's fault that we find ourselves in the situation we are in.
We should be concentrating on our current position not theirs imo and quite frankly I am astonished at the team we will be able to field this coming season. A scenario most of us would not have considered a possibility a couple of months ago.
Well done to our current board I say.'"
My sentiments exactly Frank.
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"Problems
1. Too many Swinton fans on this board!!
2. Signing our players
3. Playing at our ground
4. Being competition
Can't think of any more at this moment
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Not our players,out of contract players,that's why 1 year contracts are crap.
Not our ground, we rent like swinton.
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| i wasn't being entirely serious hence the
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Have they changed your medication, Frank? I don't think you've ever spoken half as much sense as you've posted there!'"
isn't it obvious matt .... somebody has hacked his account
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| Quote ="Super Mario"
1 year contracts aren't crap. if ricky was on a 1 year that would free up alot of cash becasue we wouldnt sign him for this year
we have saved alot of money this year too
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| I can't see what all the aggro is about what Swinton can/can't afford to pay. Yes, we get better gates than them but, presumably they have generous backers, and we currently don't. (I'm not talking about spsonsors/advertisers here)
Good luck to them - I'm sure their club is being run sensibly, given the trials and tribulations they have suffered over the years.
As for Bracek, good luck to him too, if he can get a better contract elsewhere. It is, unfortunately, essential that we do not break our own budgets to satisfy the demands of players we can't afford.
It's really none of our business 'where Swinton's money comes from - far better for us to concentrate on where ours is going to come from!
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| Theres loads of things that aren't our business but i suppose thats what forums are all about
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| The game's dying a slow death & teams that could fold will be another enevitable nail in the RL cofin. Why shouldn't we speculate what we're seeing infront of our eyes we all have concerns for the welfare of our sport
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| Quote ="ste_ody"
Generally not the best 1 year deals, clubs, coaches and players would benefit from more continuity and a reduced player turn over.
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| Quote ="Super Mario"Generally not the best 1 year deals, clubs, coaches and players would benefit from more continuity and a reduced player turn over.'"
Causes a problem if a player gets a bad injury, as Ricky did, and then clubs are tied down to paying his wages for a couple of years for minimal appearances. Being on one year deals also meant that we could offer reduced terms for much of the contracts offered for 2012, whereas if most of last year's squad were still tied to bigger contracts then we wouldn't have had the chance to restructure the budget to something more affordable.
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"I don't really care but if they come on this board they got to taks some flack imo plus the lack of away support at LSV is one of my favourite topics'"
I agree, if you dish it out you have to be able to take it as well, no problem with that at all.Besides it is all healthy debate because after all both clubs are the sole west of Pennine representatives so really we should be hoping both our respective teams do well.
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| One or two posts on this thread are causing me great distress.
Concentrate on our club ok.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Causes a problem if a player gets a bad injury, as Ricky did, and then clubs are tied down to paying his wages for a couple of years for minimal appearances. Being on one year deals also meant that we could offer reduced terms for much of the contracts offered for 2012, whereas if most of last year's squad were still tied to bigger contracts then we wouldn't have had the chance to restructure the budget to something more affordable.'"
Wrong way to look at IMO, Clubs Coaches and players would prefer continuity and a settled side with a steady player turn over, to get used to systems styles and each other, anyone can pick out isolated reasons why 1 year deals are ok but in reality they don’t particularly help improve side’s teams or clubs.
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| Quote ="Super Mario"Wrong way to look at IMO, Clubs Coaches and players would prefer continuity and a settled side with a steady player turn over, to get used to systems styles and each other, anyone can pick out isolated reasons why 1 year deals are ok but in reality they don’t particularly help improve side’s teams or clubs.'"
I agree to a certain extent and there's nothing to stop clubs extending contracts during the season, but a club would find itself in serious financial difficulty if it had a couple of lads on 2-3 year deals and they pick up a bad injury early on.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"I agree to a certain extent and there's nothing to stop clubs extending contracts during the season, but a club would find itself in serious financial difficulty if it had a couple of lads on 2-3 year deals and they pick up a bad injury early on.'"
Totally different issue that Matt, that ones about a stable club and running it correctly, any stable club run correctly, would not be offering 1 year deals.
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| Quote ="Super Mario"Totally different issue that Matt, that ones about a stable club and running it correctly, any stable club run correctly, would not be offering 1 year deals.'"
Doesn't look like you'll get Phil Vievers as your new coach, Matt Parish has quit at Salford.
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| I was told Veivers had not applied for the Leigh job.
We have as has been reported 3 applicants.
For the record one of the three isn't Malcolm Alker.
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| Quote ="frankb"I was told Veivers had not applied for the Leigh job.
We have as has been reported 3 applicants.
For the record one of the three isn't Malcolm Alker.'"
HAVE YOU BEEN AT THE ACORNS AGAIN? Who tells you all these Rumours?I told ya last week Charlie knows but you dont listen You will be be telling us next Darren Abram hasnt applied ,try drinking draught Co - Codamols ,YOU WILL FIND IT VERY SOOTHING , or try Hydrotherapy look what itsdone for me .
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"I agree to a certain extent and there's nothing to stop clubs extending contracts during the season, but a club would find itself in serious financial difficulty if it had a couple of lads on 2-3 year deals and they pick up a bad injury early on.'"
Thats what insurance is for. Most clubs pay off long term injured players with it
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